Oishinbo - Vol. 16 Ch. 146 - Vegetable Showdown! (Part 1)

[MangaDex]

 

[brndndss]

how true is it birds and insects would avoid produce with pesticides? i imagine theyd eat anything regardless..

 

[tlst9999]

how true is it birds and insects would avoid produce with pesticides? i imagine theyd eat anything regardless..

They can detect it, or rather, they evolved to detect it. The ones that can't detect it die.

Nowadays, after so many decades, some species even evolved to resist it.

 

[abijail]

Pesticides are just substances that reduce pest damage to crops. Sometimes that means making the crops repellent (typical for birds), or disrupting a physiological processes to kill insects, ideally one that is specific to the pest causing the damage. We used to use more “broad-spectrum” pesticides like DDT that affected vertebrates, and there are ongoing concerns about the effects of neonicitinoid pesticides on pollinators, with differences in which chemicals are legal across counties.

Anyway, it is interesting to read this as an agricultural entomologist b/c Kariya isn’t 100% wrong but he’s so dogmatic and doesn’t seem to know or even be interested in the realities of farming.

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

Anyway, it is interesting to read this as an agricultural entomologist b/c Kariya isn’t 100% wrong but he’s so dogmatic and doesn’t seem to know or even be interested in the realities of farming.

Here in Pennsylvania, if you don't use pesticides or anything like that, not only do the bugs and shit get your crop, but the deer get it as well. You just clean the veggies and that off before you eat them and it's fine.

 

[d_a_renoir]

This guy keeps harping about fully natural farming with only organic compost and no pesticides makes the vegetable and fruits a gazillion times tastier and I wish I can find such a thing so I can see for myself if he's just talking nonsense or if he's got a point even if it may be exaggerated.

He has been literally incorrect in numerous things, but taste is rather subjective.

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

This guy keeps harping about fully natural farming with only organic compost and no pesticides makes the vegetable and fruits a gazillion times tastier and I wish I can find such a thing so I can see for myself if he's just talking nonsense or if he's got a point even if it may be exaggerated.

He has been literally incorrect in numerous things, but taste is rather subjective.

Well, just to put forward the opposite view, if you’re a fan of animated shows, there’s an episode of King of the Hill where Peggy, who is a substitute teacher, is put in charge of the student’s organic garden… So no pesticides… Guess what happens.

 

[d_a_renoir]

Well, just to put forward the opposite view, if you’re a fan of animated shows, there’s an episode of King of the Hill where Peggy, who is a substitute teacher, is put in charge of the student’s organic garden… So no pesticides… Guess what happens.

I mean, if the argument is to say that "this method of farming is impossible", that's a separate conversation. What I want to find out is whether it's really true that completely chemical free fruits and vegetable (meaning even the fertiliser has to be organic as well) taste better.

 

[Diabeetiz]

I mean, if the argument is to say that "this method of farming is impossible", that's a separate conversation. What I want to find out is whether it's really true that completely chemical free fruits and vegetable (meaning even the fertiliser has to be organic as well) taste better.

it is quite simple to compare actually. My grandma had a small patch of land where she grew some vegetables completely organic. Ten times harder and a fraction better, if not worse most of the time due to pesky bugs. Many of the herbicides are downright toxic but most of the time, properly regulated ones are quite safe and make farming so much easier. I come from a third-world country so everything grown in my country was organic around 10 years ago. Does not make much a difference other than the fact it makes work harder

 

[d_a_renoir]

it is quite simple to compare actually. My grandma had a small patch of land where she grew some vegetables completely organic. Ten times harder and a fraction better, if not worse most of the time due to pesky bugs. Many of the herbicides are downright toxic but most of the time, properly regulated ones are quite safe and make farming so much easier. I come from a third-world country so everything grown in my country was organic around 10 years ago. Does not make much a difference other than the fact it makes work harder

Dude, what do you mean it's easy? Like, not everyone has easy access to homegrown stuff like that. Taste is also kinda subjective, as I mentioned. Even if you think both taste the same, I might not have the same opinion. That's why I wanted to have a try for myself.