Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 36 - After The Festival、Before The Storm

[essensue]

You all seem to be missing that right now it all depends on what Yuu told her and what caused the slap.

They were just introducing themselves to one another while she cleaned and he waited for Hikari, because it turns out they'd both forgotten all about last year. Then she suddenly helped him with a mosquito problem and gave him mouth-to-mouth in case he was allergic.
It's all just a biiig misunderstanding...

 

[story645]

You all seem to be missing that right now it all depends on what Yuu told her and what caused the slap.

Eh, like it's not really about the kiss though right - which sure maybe he just declared his undying love or told her he never really loved her, whatever big words trigger her launching herself at him.

My issue is more that Aya treats Hikari as this great big insurmountable barrier to her love (except when she's actually face to face w/ Yuu) rather than someone w/ feelings who might get hurt. Which Hikari seems as/more hurt by the being kept in the dark than by the kiss.

 

[essensue]

-snip- Aya treats Hikari as this great big insurmountable barrier to her love -snip-

Does this continue past their breakup in the WN or something? I always figured that motive was secondary in both dumping Yuu (where she needed to focus on other things/punish herself/free him) and supporting Yuu/Hikari (where you'd think she'd assume he never wanted to see her again after being abandoned, and it's more about "I blew my chance, but you guys go be happy; you're into each other.")

Because I'm not getting that vibe from the manga at all. During their brief relationship, yes, Mystery Childhood Friend is definitely a spectre. But doesn't she learn that Hikari is Yuu's mystery love the same time she learns Yuu is Hikari's mystery crush? It seems like they're legit best friends by then.

 

[GennArc]

My issue is more that Aya treats Hikari as this great big insurmountable barrier to her love (except when she's actually face to face w/ Yuu) rather than someone w/ feelings who might get hurt.

What? When did she ever say or think that? I can assume why you are saying this, but it'd be better if you clarify before I start responding to those assumptions that might be wrong.

Because I'm not getting that vibe from the manga at all. During their brief relationship, yes, Mystery Childhood Friend is definitely a spectre. But doesn't she learn that Hikari is Yuu's mystery love the same time she learns Yuu is Hikari's mystery crush? It seems like they're legit best friends by then.

This is my perception too.
One additional detail is that once she learns Hikari + Yuu thing and once she hears about Yuu's confession that he had been in love with a girl since before he met Kan/Seki, she becomes confident that he is in love with Hikari (see chapter 13.5)

Spoiler: Excerpt

Ayami: "So, to sum it up, he's always liked someone, huh?"
Hikari: "W-well, at least since before he met that Seki girl..."
Ayami: "That's a sure thing, then."
Hikari: "You don't know that! I mean, yeah, I'm his childhood friend, but I've never really paid attention to his love life until recently!"
Ayami: "Then ask Haru or Yuki about it. They'll tell you the same thing, I guarantee it."
Hikari: "But if I bring it up with those two, they'll totally tease me about it after..."
Ayami: "Oh, so you've just noticed that pattern now?"

I mean, when your friend drops the kind of over-the-top, nauseatingly sweet love story that only they could be excited about, what are you supposed to do?
You roll your eyes, smirk, act like you're too cool to care.
But even then, you've got to give a proper answer, don't you?
...Right?

Ayami: "Don't worry. The person he likes is definitely you, Hikari."
Hikari: "Aya-chan..."
Ayami: "I can guarantee it."

Yes, I'm the only one who can guarantee that.
I'm the only one who's ever heard him talk endlessly about his feelings for his childhood friend.
There's no way it could be anyone else.

99.9% certainty, it's Hikari.
The chance it's not? Not even 0.1%.

Ayami: "Well, then..."

But then again, this is not about treating Hikari as some sort of barrier, she has long given up on her love. It's just a little detail to add to her pain.

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

You all seem to be missing that right now it all depends on what Yuu told her and what caused the slap.

Whatever yuu said, i still think yami should be apologizing to hikari tho. She knows that full when she kiss him that hikari liles yuu, i dont think it matters if yuu confess his love again/reject her in that classroom.

 

[mochamaal]

Have you heard about white album 2 I feel like hikari really represents setsuna tho not childhood friend but very setsuna coded
The author tho just hates childhood friend

welp if we use WA2 Reference:

Spoiler: warnings

setsuna wins in 2 routes, while kazusa only one

imagine Yuu (Haruki) goes to north with Ayami (Kazusa) together, sleep together, hmmm together
Yuu confess to Ayami to marry her, and she accepted

Then next morning Ayami said no, i can't with you, ditch Yuu (haha get prank'd). Yuu' heart is broken, then he confess everything to Hikari (Setsuna)

this ends becomes Hikari wins because her persistence of loving Yuu, even after Yuu broke Hikari's heart twice

 

[LuckyThePirate]

yuu did nothing wrong. all of this is the faults of yami and hikari. just a poor boy trying to live his life surrounded by vulture like women who only care about how they feel and dont give a damn if he is hurting.

 

[essensue]

Ayami: "Oh, so you've just noticed that pattern now?"

I mean, when your friend drops the kind of over-the-top, nauseatingly sweet love story that only they could be excited about, what are you supposed to do?

Be excited with them? Because they're your friend? And vibes? You monster?

You roll your eyes, smirk, act like you're too cool to care.

Literal. Worst.

But even then, you've got to give a proper answer, don't you?

WHY!? How is this a character, and how is she so much worse on the inside than her despicable words and actions suggest? Who are you for??
I hate you, WN Ayami. So much that it's a little physically painful.

Edit: To explain my incoherent screaming, this pisses me off so much because minus the whole tonedeaf paid dating incident, manga Ayami comes off as plausibly interesting, redeemable in a way I hope for, and having the potential for more depth than initially appears. The webnovel clarifying that the edginess isn't a protective affectation but a core component of her personality turns the manga character inside-out and makes her irredeemably awful. You can't make it so that her internal monologue is arrogant and earnestly believes she's cool, but she doesn't act on it because she's also a terrible coward who feels foolish things like "social obligations to friends." Why? Where's that coming from? That's all just dragging all of her character attribute sliders to zero. Author is absolutely out of their depth - this is like watching someone try to write a "genius" character for a network tv series and not knowing where to start.
I'm not just angry but offended by how terrible a representation this is of a difficult person.

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

Y E P it was SUCH a shockingly harsh rugpull the balance is basically non existent it went from PURE fluff to really hard angst real damn quick- and I'm really worried it's here to stay so we'll be stuck with 100% angst from now on basically and it'll basically just be-

Yeah this is why whatever happens from now on, i need the last 5 to 10 chapters to be just full of fluff again, with hikari at the center of it all lol the girl deserves it.

 

[gmkgoat]

I told y'all Yami was winning the Yuubowl.

 

[Dingo777]

Yeah this is why whatever happens from now on, i need the last 5 to 10 chapters to be just full of fluff again, with hikari at the center of it all lol the girl deserves it.

literally all I want. Currently this is “fuck Hikari” the manga. Meanwhile Yami consistently gets good things that she just throws away. Acceptance to a good school? Skip school. Boy who cares about you? Ghost him. Best friend who loves you? Betray her.

Meanwhile Hikari has basically been going through a trauma conga line despite giving her all for those around her. There’s genuinely no shot of a satisfying ending for this manga that doesn’t involve Hikari getting to be genuinely happy and fulfilled.

That said judging by the direction this has and continues to go I’m worried she’s going to get the “step aside” ending while Yami continues to get things she doesn’t deserve or appreciate.

 

[story645]

But then again, this is not about treating Hikari as some sort of barrier, she has long given up on her love.

Eh, I read the section you quoted a bit differently. Her life has calmed down now, so if her family situation was why she dumped him than presumably things calming down would be a good time to reach out and rekindle, but the reason she tells herself for why she doesn't is that she's 99.9% certain he loves Hikari.

I told y'all Yami was winning the Yuubowl.

I don't think that's necessarily a loss for Hikari.

 

[GennArc]

Whatever yuu said, i still think yami should be apologizing to hikari tho.

I don't contest that, but in case he did confess to her again, she should apologize for not telling her about their relationship before, not about kissing him or whatever else.

Be excited with them? Because they're your friend?

WHY!? How is this a character, and how is she so much worse on the inside than her despicable words and actions suggest?

Do you genuinely, wholeheartedly get excited about your friends relationships? I must admit, I don't. I can be glad for them, can support them and so on, but excited? Hardly.
So I don't really see what you're so annoyed about. Pretty sure Haru and Yuki hold the same attitude, except they also tease her about that a lot.

Her life has calmed down now, so if her family situation was why she dumped him than presumably things calming down would be a good time to reach out and rekindle

Her life calmed down like half a year before she learnt about Yuu and Hikari. If it was like what you said, she would've attempted it long ago. And your idea contradicts her whole setup of having Yuu forget about her during the breakup, she clearly didn't have any intention on getting back with him.

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

There’s genuinely no shot of a satisfying ending for this manga that doesn’t involve Hikari getting to be genuinely happy and fulfilled.

Yep absolutely agree lol, like whatever happen from now on 1 thing for certain need to happen at the end and that is hikari being happy lol

That said judging by the direction this has and continues to go I’m worried she’s going to get the “step aside” ending while Yami continues to get things she doesn’t deserve or appreciate.

Nah come on now, gotta have some faith hahaha

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yeah this is why whatever happens from now on, i need the last 5 to 10 chapters to be just full of fluff again, with hikari at the center of it all lol the girl deserves it.

I'd give my left fucking nut for Hikari to be happy

If the last 5 chapters aren't the sappiest fluffiest shit in the Manga yet and Hikari is depressed then I'm taking BOTH of the authors nuts instead

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

I don't contest that, but in case he did confess to her again, she should apologize for not telling her about their relationship before, not about kissing him or whatever else.

She still should apologize for the kiss imo, but yeah mostly will be about her keeping it a secret that she used to date hikari crush etc.

Her life calmed down like half a year before she learnt about Yuu and Hikari.

Im not a WN novel reader so im not sure about this but i remember someone sharing the WN of 13.5 before and wasnt that chapter prove that her mother still has some problem?

 

[Dingo777]

Yep absolutely agree lol, like whatever happen from now on 1 thing for certain need to happen at the end and that is hikari being happy lol

Nah come on now, gotta have some faith hahaha

I’ve put too much faith into to many manga that have disappointed me too thoroughly.

Is there a universe where after the kids Yami and Yuu had a deep conversation where they came to terms and Yuu decided to pursue Hikari with Yami’s support and this whole thing is a big misunderstanding that will resolve with a big round-table honesty session? Sure

Is it more likely that it’ll end with Yami and Yuu “fated to reunite” and Hikari has to step down so the two people she cares for the most can be happy, actually doing the thing that Yami continually CLAIMED she was going to do? Assuredly.

Hell is it likely that Hikari’s going to have a total breakdown and go down a self destructive path as the one girl who could forgive anything finally can’t forgive anymore and Yami and Yuu fuck off to do their own thing like they came out of The Great Gatsby? More likely than the good ending.

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

I'd give my left fucking nut for Hikari to be happy

If the last 5 chapters aren't the sappiest fluffiest shit in the Manga yet and Hikari is depressed then I'm taking BOTH of the authors nuts instead

Oh mate same here hahaha
Like in an ideal world i want Hikari/Yuu to be a thing at the end (im a bit bias towards childhood friend romance) and Yami finally moving on and that last 5 chapters will be just full of hikari/yuu doing all the thing we saw before so them going on a trip etc.

But even if hikari/yuu failed, author need to make her find a new guy/girl or something lol we cant have this manga ending without hikari being happy haha

 

[story645]

And your idea contradicts her whole setup of having Yuu forget about her during the breakup, she clearly didn't have any intention on getting back with him.

She thought he'd forget about her cause he'd be with his childhood friend who he talked about endlessly, the childhood friend he would go on normal dates with who she was 99.9% certain he was in love with and who she was surprised to learn he wasn't already with.

ETA: Mysterious childhood friend/Hikari takes up too much space in Aya's narrations on Yuu to not be a factor.

 

[nogoodsumbeach]

I’ve put too much faith into to many manga that have disappointed me too thoroughly.

Is there a universe where after the kids Yami and Yuu had a deep conversation where they came to terms and Yuu decided to pursue Hikari with Yami’s support and this whole thing is a big misunderstanding that will resolve with a big round-table honesty session? Sure

Is it more likely that it’ll end with Yami and Yuu “fated to reunite” and Hikari has to step down so the two people she cares for the most can be happy, actually doing the thing that Yami continually CLAIMED she was going to do? Assuredly.

Hell is it likely that Hikari’s going to have a total breakdown and go down a self destructive path as the one girl who could forgive anything finally can’t forgive anymore and Yami and Yuu fuck off to do their own thing like they came out of The Great Gatsby? More likely than the good ending.

So we all agree the first scenario is what will happen then? 👍
Nah but seriously tho i would weep for eternity if hikari doesnt get the happy ending she deserves