Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 36 - After The Festival、Before The Storm

[middle-the-nerd]

Oh mate same here hahaha
Like in an ideal world i want Hikari/Yuu to be a thing at the end (im a bit bias towards childhood friend romance) and Yami finally moving on and that last 5 chapters will be just full of hikari/yuu doing all the thing we saw before so them going on a trip etc.

But even if hikari/yuu failed, author need to make her find a new guy/girl or something lol we cant have this manga ending without hikari being happy haha

I'm gonna be quite honest- I'm also biased I LOVE childhood friend romances it's one of if not my favorite romance manga tropes (I mean pretty much the entire reason I initially started reading this) and biased again Yami because I've been ghosted before and that shit can fucking HURT plus she's just not a great person

Honestly at this point though I'm not really sure who Yuu will end up with (if he ends up with either that is) there was definitely parts in the fluff chapters that I feel gave implications/mixed signals from Yuu to Hikari, we know he at least used to have feelings for her, and he definitely cares about her ALOT so I do think it's still very much possible

And yeah and ending where she isn't happy would be complete dogshit

 

[middle-the-nerd]

So we all agree the first scenario is what will happen then? 👍
Nah but seriously tho i would weep for eternity if hikari doesnt get the happy ending she deserves

WE'D weep for eternity

 

[essensue]

literally all I want. Currently this is “fuck Hikari” the manga. Meanwhile Yami consistently gets good things that she just throws away. Acceptance to a good school? Skip school. Boy who cares about you? Ghost him. Best friend who loves you? Betray her.

Meanwhile Hikari has basically been going through a trauma conga line despite giving her all for those around her. There’s genuinely no shot of a satisfying ending for this manga that doesn’t involve Hikari getting to be genuinely happy and fulfilled.

That said judging by the direction this has and continues to go I’m worried she’s going to get the “step aside” ending while Yami continues to get things she doesn’t deserve or appreciate.

I'm even fine with her stepping aside as long as she's genuinely happy and fulfilled, because this can all be a learning experience that leads to her being the kind of person that can do that for herself, you know? And unlike Yami's unearned dubs, seeing Hikari wrestle a happy ending out of the muck with her own two damn hands would be insanely satisfying.

If my complaint about WN Yami is that she's uninterestingly awful, my complaint about WN Hikari (from the few excerpts I've read) is that a lot of her sweetness hinges on an innocence and naivete that is completely untempered by thought or experience. It's more meaningful when someone knows about and rejects a path than when it simply never occurs to them. Some of my favorite characters are the ones who maintain happy or optimistic or childlike attitudes not because of ignorance but because that's the world they want to live in for whatever reason. Trusting people is the handicap they go through life with because it seems right to them, and we learn why.

Seeing her grow into someone confident and inspirational like that would be enough for me that I'd be fine if she was single at the end of the story, even. The writing itself owes her better:

We get a lot of the most memorable monologue for Manga Hikari when it's intercut with her doing something immature that she knows she shouldn't, and while a lot of that is REALLY relatable, it undercuts her cuteness by a big factor for me when you combine it with the innocence, because it feels like there's a big gap she could fall into where once immorality makes its way in, she won't be able to resist it.

So I guess that's what I kinda want for her - a promising future at the very least.
The only thing that sucks worse than having WN Yami look at WN Hikari and go "lol stupid baby" is having her be right.

 

[beThereShortly]

Alright now. Let's see if this manga can spin straw into gold.

 

[essensue]

Do you genuinely, wholeheartedly get excited about your friends relationships? I must admit, I don't. I can be glad for them, can support them and so on, but excited? Hardly.
So I don't really see what you're so annoyed about. Pretty sure Haru and Yuki hold the same attitude, except they also tease her about that a lot.

Truly close friends, most friends generally, and certain complete strangers if the mood strikes me? I really, genuinely, wholeheartedly do. Falling in love's amazing. And it's a huge part of the life of someone I love, so I can't not share their enthusiasm. Like, right now, there are couples I can think of that bring an actual smile to my face just because it's so much better than things were for my friend when I met them. And I'm still there for you if it doesn't work out, too: Drinks are on me and I promise to find something in the judge's conduct in divorce court to complain about.

Haru and Yuki, my read is that they're actually super excited for Hikari's love story, even when she isn't looking, but they've had it up to fucking HERE with her lack of follow-through on her confession.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

literally all I want. Currently this is “fuck Hikari” the manga. Meanwhile Yami consistently gets good things that she just throws away. Acceptance to a good school? Skip school. Boy who cares about you? Ghost him. Best friend who loves you? Betray her.

Meanwhile Hikari has basically been going through a trauma conga line despite giving her all for those around her. There’s genuinely no shot of a satisfying ending for this manga that doesn’t involve Hikari getting to be genuinely happy and fulfilled.

That said judging by the direction this has and continues to go I’m worried she’s going to get the “step aside” ending while Yami continues to get things she doesn’t deserve or appreciate.

Yep- pretty much says it all

All Yami basically does is-
1. Awful shit and get away with it
2. Self sabotages herself and acts like it isn't her own damn fault or makes excuses

I genuinely hope Hikari isn't a saint for once and snaps at Yami for what she did because that was fucked up and she should have some fucking consequences for it

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Btw can we all agree this would basically be the WORST TIME EVER for Hikari to confess??? That would be Yami levels of self sabotage

 

[essensue]

I'm gonna be quite honest- I'm also biased I LOVE childhood friend romances it's one of if not my favorite romance manga tropes (I mean pretty much the entire reason I initially started reading this) and biased again Yami because I've been ghosted before and that shit can fucking HURT plus she's just not a great person

Honestly at this point though I'm not really sure who Yuu will end up with (if he ends up with either that is) there was definitely parts in the fluff chapters that I feel gave implications/mixed signals from Yuu to Hikari, we know he at least used to have feelings for her, and he definitely cares about her ALOT so I do think it's still very much possible

And yeah and ending where she isn't happy would be complete dogshit

So like, was there any vision loss when the author hit you in the face with the laser target designator, or...?

All Yami basically does is-
1. Awful shit and get away with it
2. Self sabotages herself and acts like it isn't her own damn fault or makes excuses

Also, a minor distinction I mentally made a while back is that Hikari is characterized by self-sabotage, while Yami is self-destruction.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

So like, was there any vision loss when the author hit you in the face with the laser target designator, or...?

Yeah I'm still working on filing the personal injury lawsuit

Also, a minor distinction I mentally made a while back is that Hikari is characterized by self-sabotage, while Yami is self-destruction.

Actually you're right self- destruction is probably a better term to describe Yami

Edit: honestly Hikari really needs to stop being a doormat and Yami...Yami needs to just start being a better fucking person in general

 

[awtystic]

welp if we use WA2 Reference:

Spoiler: warnings

setsuna wins in 2 routes, while kazusa only one

imagine Yuu (Haruki) goes to north with Ayami (Kazusa) together, sleep together, hmmm together
Yuu confess to Ayami to marry her, and she accepted

Then next morning Ayami said no, i can't with you, ditch Yuu (haha get prank'd). Yuu' heart is broken, then he confess everything to Hikari (Setsuna)

this ends becomes Hikari wins because her persistence of loving Yuu, even after Yuu broke Hikari's heart twice

We must see a dusk arc to finally flesh out Yuu i really want to see what hikari saw in him we did see a bit of his character like his sincerity to Yami but still haven't seen that side that hikari was talking about

 

[Dingo777]

Btw can we all agree this would basically be the WORST TIME EVER for Hikari to confess??? That would be Yami levels of self sabotage

Honestly If she does go through with it despite everything I’ll be proud of her. Yuu couldn’t work up the courage because of a self-imposed requirement and Yami had it all and ghosted because she was scared. If Hikari sees this and still goes for it it’ll really highlight Yuu and Yami’s continued cowardice. Walking into a battle expecting to die takes guts rather than “Oh they deserve better so I won’t even try”. We’ll see how the next chapter plays out.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Honestly If she does go through with it despite everything I’ll be proud of her. Yuu couldn’t work up the courage because of a self-imposed requirement and Yami had it all and ghosted because she was scared. If Hikari sees this and still goes for it it’ll really highlight Yuu and Yami’s continued cowardice. Walking into a battle expecting to die takes guts rather than “Oh they deserve better so I won’t even try”. We’ll see how the next chapter plays out.

Honestly that is true as well it'd be stupid imo sure but I'd respect the hell out of her for going through with it

But I also wouldn't mind her confronting Yuu about what happened instead of bottling it up lol

also- yean Yuu and Yami really are both cowards

 

[middle-the-nerd]

So who wants to make guesses about what'll happen between Hikari and Yami?

There's four potential scenarios I can think of right now
1. Hikari acts like nothing happened and bottles it up
2. Hikari actually confronts Yami and she show how much it hurt her
3. Hikari still confronts Yami but continues to be a damn doormat and Yami faces no consequences
4. Hikari starts avoiding her

Anyone else have some predictions?

 

[awtystic]

So who wants to make guesses about what'll happen between Hikari and Yami?

There's four potential scenarios I can think of right now
1. Hikari acts like nothing happened and bottles it up
2. Hikari actually confronts Yami and she show how much it hurt her
3. Hikari still confronts Yami but continues to be a damn doormat and Yami faces no consequences
4. Hikari starts avoiding her

Anyone else have some predictions?

I'll go with 4 the way she acted with yuu feels like 4

 

[mug3n]

WE'D weep for eternity

Believe me when I say a hunk will come to her rescue. I'm not coping. I'm not.

 

[story645]

3. Hikari still confronts Yami but continues to be a damn doormat and Yami faces no consequences

3a? Hikari confronts them but doesn't confess b/c her fantasy of Yuu was shattered and she's not actually sure if that's what she wants. Which I guess makes her not a doormat but Aya also (maybe) gets what she wants - like it's not a given that Yuu still wants her/caves to her kiss.

The novel felt a bit confess b/c that was the plan and she's not letting the plan get ruined.

 

[GennArc]

You can't make it so that her internal monologue is arrogant and earnestly believes she's cool, but she doesn't act on it because she's also a terrible coward who feels foolish things like "social obligations to friends."

I don't see it that way, it reads completely differently to me.
It's not arrogant at all, she's just describing a normal banter between friends. Teasing them, demonstratively sighing at their long tirades, but actually still caring about them, supporting and giving proper advice. It's not about obligations or anything, this is just how good friends can interact.

Im not a WN novel reader so im not sure about this but i remember someone sharing the WN of 13.5 before and wasnt that chapter prove that her mother still has some problem?

Well, her mother is still nagging and so on, but it reads like she is no longer suicidal and hysteric like she used to be. And Yami attending school properly again and enjoying it is like a sign that she no longer uses school as just a way to escape her mom.

She thought he'd forget about her cause he'd be with his childhood friend who he talked about endlessly

She never mentioned the childhood friend in those breakup chapters. She even tells him to "fall in love", which she wouldn't say if she implied he should get together with the childhood friend. In fact, the last time she mentions the CF (until that extra chapter when she learns about Yuu+Hikari) is in chapter 26.

 

[GennArc]

And I'm still there for you if it doesn't work out, too: Drinks are on me and I promise to find something in the judge's conduct in divorce court to complain about.

I mean, that's a given, this part is about caring about them and supporting. The smiling part can also apply to me.
Excitement though? Can't share the sentiment. To be truly excited, I need to actually be able to understand the feelings, like we do in fiction.

Haru and Yuki, my read is that they're actually super excited for Hikari's love story, even when she isn't looking, but they've had it up to fucking HERE with her lack of follow-through on her confession.

I honestly don't think they are. They are basically in the same boat as Yami (used to be), except they are much more into teasing part. Yuu comes to school and they do what? Haru starts teasingly criticize Hikari for bringing her "boyfriend" to boast, while Yuki teasignly imitates seducing him. This is not excitement in my book, this is just what I described above - friendly banter.

 

[story645]

She even tells him to "fall in love", which she wouldn't say if she implied he should get together with the childhood friend.

What could she say that wouldn't tip him off that she's dumping him?

Chapter 13.5 makes clear that she thinks the CF is the best candidate b/c she thinks he's already in love w/ her.

 

[essensue]

I don't see it that way, it reads completely differently to me.
It's not arrogant at all, she's just describing a normal banter between friends. Teasing them, demonstratively sighing at their long tirades, but actually still caring about them, supporting and giving proper advice. It's not about obligations or anything, this is just how good friends can interact.

Alright, if that's what the surrounding context supports, it's a valid read that she could mean "Hikari's told me her love story -what do I performatively do to tease her," and it's even cute and funny if the target of the humor is her own persona. But given the shitty way she described the story only to us the reader, I really got the vibe "This story sucks. Here's what instinct tells me to do. But I suppose I should still humor her."

I'll take your word for it rather than read any more WN.

I mean, that's a given, this part is about caring about them and supporting. The smiling part can also apply to me.
Excitement though? Can't share the sentiment. To be truly excited, I need to actually be able to understand the feelings, like we do in fiction.

Fair enough!

I honestly don't think they are. They are basically in the same boat as Yami (used to be), except they are much more into teasing part. Yuu comes to school and they do what? Haru starts teasingly criticize Hikari for bringing her "boyfriend" to boast, while Yuki teasignly imitates seducing him. This is not excitement in my book, this is just what I described above - friendly banter.

They seem pretty pumped to step in and help out starting with like, 5.5, through the theme park date, etc., and I take their frustration as proof of their excitement and impatience. You can be excited and a little jealous of the specific circumstances, too, like Haru. I just completely reject the shitty, awful characterization of Hikari and Yuu's burgeoning love story from Hikari's side as "the kind of over-the-top, nauseatingly sweet love story that only [Hikari] could be excited about," and I feel like the fact that people read this manga supports my argument lol