Tensei Oujo to Tensai Reijou no Mahou Kakumei - Ch. 45

[ciera]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[JKTV]

im with anis, tho it feels like she wont win this fight

so if euphie does become immortal, Anis better somehow too!

Tho before Anis becomes immortal some way, i want some anst before then. Cuz imagine your lover becoming immortal for your sake even tho you didnt want her too (while youre a mortal) . GIMME ANGST

 

[popinloopy]

Thank you for the chapter!

 

[DraVee]

Anybody can spoil me, this suspense is killing me inside, there's no good outcome of this

 

[KZO]

Finally, time for the duel.

 

[Shiromon]

You do realise that the story doesnt end were the anime ends right?…

Well the series doesn't actually end where the anime does. The anime ends at about book 3(?). The novels are are currently at book 10 and ongoing (and this "issue" is already long resolved). There's a lot of great stuff that comes after the anime, some of the best stuff actually. I imagine the manga will continue following the novels.

if you interpreted my comment in that way then it was poorly worded of me, yes, I do know the story keeps going especially since the trend with modern anime has been to cut as much as possible to end on a high note from the original story on the least amount of episodes possible (usually 12) but still the point I was making is that Euphie getting saddled with immortality, and being fated to forget everything and everyone from her life as a human, fated to see everyone she loves and cares for wither away and die of old age isn't exactly my idea of a great solution for the situation they found themselves in. and even with the story continuing beyond that point, it's simply a development that is next to impossible to overturn without the story/worldbuilding losing much of its weight, since it'll pass off the impression that nothing matters and it will just get solved by a convenient Deus Ex Machina. and also, don't you think that if there was a way to overturn it (besides what she probably had to do to kill the first king) wouldn't the first princess have found a way to and/or have overturned it for herself? Since from the way she puts it she's not exactly thrilled by the state of her existence, and her not being there would mean that less and less people would know about spirit contracts as the years went on, more than likely.

 

[Ninoren]

I'm pretty sure that's not the take away here. if that were even true she never would have defied and killed her father to begin with.

I honestly think that immortal girl is just projecting her and her father's neuroses. She ought to consider therapy.

She said the spirit literally assimilates with the soul, to me that sounds like she is Euphy, while also not being Euphy instead being some spirit like the spirit has some sort of influence at the very least

 

[blablablub]

Euphy could surely achieve all that without the spirit contract. The solution is rather simple: Anis marries Euphie. They can rule together. Euphie would deal with the old fart "nobles" and Anis can keep spreading magicology. Sure, the inheritance issue remains, but two geniuses could figure that out I'm sure. However, with Euphie's current plan, that issue remains unresolved. Or what, does she want to suck up to some of those old farts and hump on the son of one of them until her belly grows?

Those old coots were nowhere to be seen when that Dragon could've destroyed Palettia, instigate and ruin Algard and Anis's siblinghood, viewed Anis as nothing more than a heretics and means to create an heir.

Oh, they were there, hiding in the shadows. Looking at how their plan unfolded.

 

[Torappu]

So a spirit contract actually gave magic to humans who were magicless. By removing/converting parts of the soul into something that spirits could inhabit/replace. And these voids are passed down by heredity.
So someone with attributes in all magic has an incomplete soul that many different types of spirits can inhabit while commoners along with Anis have complete souls which spirits can't enter.

 

[shemper]

Thank you for your work!

 

[Guyincognitus]

She said the spirit literally assimilates with the soul, to me that sounds like she is Euphy, while also not being Euphy instead being some spirit like the spirit has some sort of influence at the very least

If anything Euphy has influence on the spirit rather than the other way around. Even assuming the wish upon a spirit contract deal has as much weight as miss immortal claims, and I'm not at all convinced it does, it's still exists that way because of the contractor's personal desires. The spirit doesn't have any say on it.

 

[tuatara1]

The real revolution ought to be ending the royalty and nobility entirely. Straight up, no equivocating. It's an inherently poisonous system, ruinous to everyone it touches, even more so than real-world monarchies. No gods, no kings, no masters. Period.

Moreover, I'm not even sure that magic as a whole could be considered a net good for their world. It clearly doesn't make things better overall. I'm so grateful that we live in a world without magic or deities or superpowers, as I think any of those phenomena would just increase the world's suffering.

As Shakespeare wrote, "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport."

 

[SrNevik]

if you interpreted my comment in that way then it was poorly worded of me, yes, I do know the story keeps going especially since the trend with modern anime has been to cut as much as possible to end on a high note from the original story on the least amount of episodes possible (usually 12) but still the point I was making is that Euphie getting saddled with immortality, and being fated to forget everything and everyone from her life as a human, fated to see everyone she loves and cares for wither away and die of old age isn't exactly my idea of a great solution for the situation they found themselves in. and even with the story continuing beyond that point, it's simply a development that is next to impossible to overturn without the story/worldbuilding losing much of its weight, since it'll pass off the impression that nothing matters and it will just get solved by a convenient Deus Ex Machina. and also, don't you think that if there was a way to overturn it (besides what she probably had to do to kill the first king) wouldn't the first princess have found a way to and/or have overturned it for herself? Since from the way she puts it she's not exactly thrilled by the state of her existence, and her not being there would mean that less and less people would know about spirit contracts as the years went on, more than likely.

All I can say is this has been dealt with well already in the novels. Part of the issue is you (and others) are not fully understanding what the implications of the situation are--for example, she is not destined to forget anything or not be herself. It's largely a function of passing time alone, along with the initial desire and the consequences of that. There can be solutions there. The novel handles everything perfectly well and it doesn't disrupt anything. You'll just have to wait or read the novels.

 

[crimsondenmite]

Meh. Anis will obviously win, I hope it isn't as straightforward as all that.

The author is painting her personality and skills as both the path to the future but also what is in the way of the future.
If she just wins, purely based on skill instead of the true magic she always wanted to use, I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean.

Like, her focus on the persuit of natural magic and the development of tool to compensate is what isolated her and basically drove her brother insane, made her want to take the throne as responsability and penance, and what made Euphilia want to sacrifice herself.

But now that very same skillset is being used to prevent Euphy from doing what she wants, without a backup plan.

If she were to win based on natural magic she would suddenly defeat a magical genius, and would come off as just MC privilege, but now she is going to what, use what is currently a dead end (which everyone universaly agrees on) to prove she is right without having a way to follow through without the suffering (taking the throne) that lead us to this exact situation in the first place?

I don't get it, I feel like this is just going in circles.

Didn’t you read the LN or watch the anime?

 

[crimsondenmite]

In hindsight, this duel also kind of determines who is the long term mainly seme (top) and uke (bottom) in the relationship.

My issue with that is, it’s a permanent role, the top role never changes.. I would like the bottom to be top once.. there should Be some change, otherwise it’ll become like Yurika no campus, where Yurika is always the one performing the action and never the receiver..

 

[Volcanron]

watching the anime was a huge mistake, since I now know how this ends and even though the manga carries a ton of extra detail in it, doesn't make the outcome any better in my eyes, it's still a horrible development that I can't see as the ''happy ending'' they try to portray it as.
Oh well, let the agony continue, I've spent too long reading this to drop it now

As a LN reader, I felt the same here, and I do believe that the bittersweet feeling that results from this is intentional. But it does become a lot better further down the line, and I am happy with where it is going overall.

As for the anime, yeah I am so unbelievably disappointed with how rushed it was and how much it cut out. Ended up dropping it episode 6 because I predicted exactly how much they would butcher the later arcs, which emphasize a lot on nuance and grey area.

 

[monkey123]

'TIS BUT A SCRATCH

 

[SageVonManga]

watching the anime was a huge mistake, since I now know how this ends and even though the manga carries a ton of extra detail in it, doesn't make the outcome any better in my eyes, it's still a horrible development that I can't see as the ''happy ending'' they try to portray it as.
Oh well, let the agony continue, I've spent too long reading this to drop it now

I just hope that this fight is not that same as what we had in the anime. Since Euphy took her 'prize' to power up in the middle of that fight so Anis would have lost even if she had won.

I kinda curious but are they really stripped of their humanity or just chained to the wish they made. It sounds like they didn't lost their individuality but more like evolved to that point where they are lost their connection to humanity and just upholding their wishes until the end of time.

And here I was expecting the first king actually went insane due to immortality which made it easier for the nobility to manipulate him. It must be that he lost his power to the throne and became a puppet to the nobles as time went by.

Several things in play there, but the precision and scope of the wish matters a lot. The king basically got monkey pawed by human nature and became a 'monster' protecting human greed, so long as 'his people' wished for something he couldn't go against it even if it was unwise, unjust or even if it hurt his people in the long term. It's possible that even if he himself was aware of this he still couldn't go against it, but it's unclear from Lumi's story if he had even retained the ability to question his own actions.

By default Euphy's wish shouldn't result in her becoming a monster so long as she can limit her wish to only 'having a claim to the throne'. However if her wish were to include 'spreading Anis' new magic' you can imagine a bad scenario where she just starts murdering people opposed to new magic. On the other hand this wish probably prevents a 'democracy' ending since she can't have a claim to a throne that doesn't exist and she might go insane.

I'm pretty sure that's not the take away here. if that were even true she never would have defied and killed her father to begin with.

I honestly think that immortal girl is just projecting her and her father's neuroses. She ought to consider therapy.

If I am reading how dangerous these contracts can be correctly then she killed him because she no longer saw him as the king, but as a 'wish granting monster'. Even if she didn't want to kill her father, she was compelled to kill the monster posing as king.

 

[Rafalga]

Problem with this arc is not even Euphy becoming an empty husk over time. It is once again everyone taking the agency away from Anis and deciding what is best for her while ignoring her. Even brute forcing it against her will.

I said it before i'll say it again. Every shit that happened since the beginning is her shitty parent's fault.

 

[Rafalga]

Since Euphy took her 'prize' to power up in the middle of that fight so Anis would have lost even if she had won.

That's straight up scummy lol. Way to go Euphy. So honest, so sincere.