Mangadex gets hit by DMCA - more than 25% of chapters gone | staff FAQ update

[Zunnol]

I really hope they at least give a list of everything removed. They have the list, either MD or NamiComi whoever is handling the legal side which appears to be NamiComi at this point, so just release it so we can all try and salvage whatever we can from this massive clusterfuck.

I keep holding off on doing my own archive of the removed titles because the google spreadsheet list just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

I was one of those people who thought the other people saying "MD is dead" were over exaggerating, but honestly, this site is dead/dying at this point. Its too volatile of an environment for groups to post their work, why would you spend time on something knowing that there is a high chance that your work is going to be ripped off the site.

They claim they arent going to become Crunchyroll but that is 100% the only LEGAL option for them to do, otherwise their traffic will drop way too much and the revenue just wont be there. This is almost exactly what happened with mangahelper and crunchyroll, primarily pirated content, gets blasted with massive DMCAs and remove everything and either essentially die off (mangahelper) or go the legit route (crunchyroll) and if you want to go the legit route, you have to wipe out all pirated content.

Mangadex is dead people, backup your lists, backup as many chapters as possible because the next Dekai Archive isnt due till Fall of this year. I know thats what ill be working on over the next few days.

 

[T-sama]

I really hope they at least give a list of everything removed. They have the list, either MD or NamiComi whoever is handling the legal side which appears to be NamiComi at this point, so just release it so we can all try and salvage whatever we can from this massive clusterfuck.

I keep holding off on doing my own archive of the removed titles because the google spreadsheet list just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

I was one of those people who thought the other people saying "MD is dead" were over exaggerating, but honestly, this site is dead/dying at this point. Its too volatile of an environment for groups to post their work, why would you spend time on something knowing that there is a high chance that your work is going to be ripped off the site.

They claim they arent going to become Crunchyroll but that is 100% the only LEGAL option for them to do, otherwise their traffic will drop way too much and the revenue just wont be there. This is almost exactly what happened with mangahelper and crunchyroll, primarily pirated content, gets blasted with massive DMCAs and remove everything and either essentially die off (mangahelper) or go the legit route (crunchyroll) and if you want to go the legit route, you have to wipe out all pirated content.

Mangadex is dead people, backup your lists, backup as many chapters as possible because the next Dekai Archive isnt due till Fall of this year. I know thats what ill be working on over the next few days.

Dude, it's at least 7k titles and site is clearly going to go legit, everything will be removed for sure, list is useless at this point lol

 

[BakedBanana]

Is it still too late to say this is an out-of-season April fools joke?

 

[Zunnol]

Dude, it's at least 7k titles and site is clearly going to go legit, everything will be removed for sure, list is useless at this point lol

I just meant so we can archive and backup what has already been removed. As soon as the DMCA hit, I know me and many others immediately started backing things up but it would be nice to try and ensure that the other stuff doesnt fall into the internet abyss and can get reuploaded once mangadex 3.0 eventually appears.

 

[T-sama]

I just meant so we can archive and backup what has already been removed. As soon as the DMCA hit, I know me and many others immediately started backing things up but it would be nice to try and ensure that the other stuff doesnt fall into the internet abyss and can get reuploaded once mangadex 3.0 eventually appears.

They won't give list cause it's 7k series now and later remove everything else, they won't bother when the entire site will be cleaned.

Like, they're already pushing it into someone else hands, they're completely washing their hands from this situation, don't expect anything from them anymore.

 

[T-sama]

Is it still too late to say this is an out-of-season April fools joke?

The joke is on us because we actually believed the lie that they protect scanlation groups.

Also that we never realized something, Mangadex always removed series that get dmca, this situation was always inevitable but we fooled ourselves into thinking the site was safe and would last forever.

 

[Zunnol]

The joke is on us because we actually believed the lie that they protect scanlation groups.

Also that we never realized something, Mangadex always removed series that get dmca, this situation was always inevitable but we fooled ourselves into thinking the site was safe and would last forever.

DMCAs happen here and there, usually only with series that have official translations so its not as big of a deal, but this shows that nothing is safe anymore. Not that it was THAT safe to begin with, but the illusion of safety was there.

 

[Angry_Panda]

The joke is on us because we actually believed the lie that they protect scanlation groups.

What protection were you thinking was present when every upload had a user name and group associated with it?

 

[Zunnol]

They won't give list cause it's 7k series now and later remove everything else, they won't bother when the entire site will be cleaned.

Like, they're already pushing it into someone else hands, they're completely washing their hands from this situation, don't expect anything from them anymore.

Yeah my expectations are pretty much rock bottom at this point.

 

[T-sama]

DMCAs happen here and there, usually only with series that have official translations so its not as big of a deal, but this shows that nothing is safe anymore. Not that it was THAT safe to begin with, but the illusion of safety was there.

It's a big deal because it was always in front of us but we closed our eyes to it.

If Mangadex obey dmca for a series in once in a while, of course they would obey a blanket dmca like this.

 

[T-sama]

What protection were you thinking was present when every upload had a user name and group associated with it?

Irrelevant, Mangadex always portrayed itself as a site that protected groups, now they're easily throwing everyone under the bus cause it's convenient.

 

[Angry_Panda]

Mangadex always portrayed itself as a site that protected groups

Show me examples of this.

 

[Zunnol]

It's a big deal because it was always in front of us but we closed our eyes to it.

If Mangadex obey dmca for a series in once in a while, of course they would obey a blanket dmca like this.

Oh I know, and as soon as I read the news about Japan trying to cut down on piracy awhile ago, I knew I should have prepared myself then, but I guess i just chose to bury my head in the sand and hope for the best which clearly did not work out for me in the slightest.

Closing our eyes is kind of what i was referring to about the illusion of safety, we thought it was because we ignored the obvious that was right in front of us even though we have seen it happen multiple times before.

 

[T-sama]

Show me examples of this.

Dude, it's literally one of the reasons so many groups came here, cause mangadex supposedly always had their back.

You ask for a example as if I'm the only one who always basically knew / heard that, it was basically common knowledge to some extent.

Like I said, we simply fell for the lie.

 

[T-sama]

Oh I know, and as soon as I read the news about Japan trying to cut down on piracy awhile ago, I knew I should have prepared myself then, but I guess i just chose to bury my head in the sand and hope for the best which clearly did not work out for me in the slightest.

We always hope for the best and are lazy, so of course basically nobody prepared themselves from this.

Though ironically it wasn't Japan who did this lol

 

[Angry_Panda]

Dude, it's literally one of the reasons so many groups came here, cause mangadex supposedly always had their back.

You ask for a example as if I'm the only one who always basically knew / heard that, it was basically common knowledge to some extent.

Like I said, we simply fell for the lie.

You created a convenient fiction and didn't bother to read the site policies.

 

[T-sama]

You created a convenient fiction and didn't bother to read the site policies.

Funny you say I created it when it's something I've seen said various times over the years, including here on Mangadex.

 

[Angry_Panda]

Funny you say I created it when it's something I've seen said various times over the years, including here on Mangadex.

But not by staff.

 

[T-sama]

But not by staff.

Staff never discouraged it even though it was not something uncommon.

Like I said, we fell for the lie / illusion that Mangadex was different.

 

[Angry_Panda]

Like I said, we fell for the lie / illusion that Mangadex was different.

No, YOU fell for the lie. Some of us are old enough and experienced enough to have been through this before, and knew this was always a possibility. Stop trying to pass the buck.