Risou no Himo Seikatsu - Vol. 18 Ch. 75 - The Final Passenger

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Someone who doesn't seem interested in a political marriage, like Bona, seems like the better choice for Zenjirou since it would be a marriage he isn't interested in either.
"Ok, we're married. So... lunch in 6 months or so?" "Sure, if I can clear my schedule" "Sounds good. Hey Aura, how about a 3rd child?".
 
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Final line seems a bit weird. If zenjirou's smile changes, as a queen Aura will accept because emotions aren't relevant in politics, and he is way too central to all her diplomacy with both uppasala and the twin kingdoms to possibly replace.
As a woman is another matter though, and seems to be a much more relevant concern.
The point is that if Zenjirou's smile changes, it's because she has lost his love due to her actions as Queen. And in the Light Novel, she's currently dreading that is the future between the two of them, because she's perceptively realized he's given up thinking that Aura will ever actually give him what he wants in this regard. She's projecting the bitterness or resentment that she's seen women forced to marry someone they don't want to.
 
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honestly i'm kind of losing interest in this, i wanted hot tanned queen smexy times with isekai technology transfer, yet all we have is shitty intrigue over subterfuge over intrigue over guessing/double guessing/triple guessing etc etc etc with very very minute amounts of interesting stuff.

Gets very tiresome
 
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Swaying often feels stronger while anchored, since you have more reference points. On the other hand, you get seasick more easily if you don't have those references. On the other hand, I doubt a ship that large would have a lot of sway at port in that weather.
The only time I rode a boat, I started feeling very seasick while it was still docked at the shore. But as soon as the boat set off, the nausea disappeared, and I had no trouble for the rest of the trip.
She's cute losing herself looking so proud.
Very cute 😊
I would also prefer Bona. She's great.
Until now, I was on Team Bona too. But after this chapter, Zenjirou's reasoning made sense to me.
I like that he's still honest about not liking having concubines. Doesn't say whether he likes Lucrezia in particular.
This mangá really stands out among harem stories. There are some where the MC says he’s not into the idea at first, but quickly gives in to lust. But here, it seems like Zenjirou is going to stay faithful — romantically — to his wife until the end.
Lucrezia might have more experience with it, but she's still not particularly competent at it.

However, I got more the impression that she's more safe from an emotional point of view. She's in it for the politics, while Bona might have a stronger emotional attachment, should she go through with it. That can easily cause some hurt feelings, or displeasure of not being able to do what she really wants.
As Queen Aura herself said, Lucrezia is just a "pawn." Her only purpose is to create a connection between the two kingdoms. I don't think she actually needs to be competent at anything in order to become a concubine. And if you consider the effort Lucrezia is putting into winning over Zenjirou, you could say she’s actually doing a pretty good job at that. In fact, it’s precisely because of that effort that she now seems to be the one chosen to become the MC’s second concubine.
 
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honestly i'm kind of losing interest in this, i wanted hot tanned queen smexy times with isekai technology transfer, yet all we have is shitty intrigue over subterfuge over intrigue over guessing/double guessing/triple guessing etc etc etc with very very minute amounts of interesting stuff.

Gets very tiresome
I personally enjoy the more political side of this manga. When it comes to technology transfer, one thing I’ve always fantasized about is whether I could use my own knowledge to change anything in a parallel world with a medieval setting. For example, if I were transported to the Middle Ages today, I wouldn’t know how to teach people to use electricity or explain other physics concepts. I’d basically end up like Zenjirou — just going along with what others tell me. Actually, if you got teleported to the Middle Ages, chances are the Church would want to burn you at the stake for trying to create witchcraft, haha.
 
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This is a refreshing take on the "harem" issue. It's kinda embarrassing that people seem to think all men are horn dogs that would readily change their culture and way of thinking on romantic relations. Centuries away love was seen as a obstacle in relations. Marriages were done out of politics and power. Things are different now. A lot of people (it isn't wrong to call it the prevailing popular opinion) believe in monogamy and relationships based on love. Here we have a character that is more than happy to continue his monogamous relationship with the woman he loves, but is understandably uncomfortable having to take concubines for political reasons. He's neither wishy washy nor an insane pervert; he's just a person who grew up with certain ideals on relationships and is very clear on them.
I mean, you're just complaining that people like their fantasies to be fantasies. May as well complain that edward the vampire like bella the boring ass nobody girl.
 
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The only time I rode a boat, I started feeling very seasick while it was still docked at the shore. But as soon as the boat set off, the nausea disappeared, and I had no trouble for the rest of the trip.
Yeah, seasickness is a bit weird. People react differently. In your case it might just have been better because the boat was moving, since that has a different feeling to it. It also depends on the size of the boat. Again, not always, but it's generally worse in medium and large boats, rather than small boats. Huge ships can also be different, since they're not nearly as affected by waves.

Until now, I was on Team Bona too. But after this chapter, Zenjirou's reasoning made sense to me.
It's very much of a, "let her decide," kind of situation. If she wants it, great. If she doesn't, go with the backup.

This mangá really stands out among harem stories. There are some where the MC says he’s not into the idea at first, but quickly gives in to lust. But here, it seems like Zenjirou is going to stay faithful — romantically — to his wife until the end.
More often they never seem to be particularly interested in the girls romantically at all. It's just the girls fighting over the MC.

As Queen Aura herself said, Lucrezia is just a "pawn." Her only purpose is to create a connection between the two kingdoms. I don't think she actually needs to be competent at anything in order to become a concubine.
No, but she's easier to control if she isn't that competent at politics. Which can be a benefit to them, but also makes her more of a risk, since it can turn the other direction.

And if you consider the effort Lucrezia is putting into winning over Zenjirou, you could say she’s actually doing a pretty good job at that. In fact, it’s precisely because of that effort that she now seems to be the one chosen to become the MC’s second concubine.
I think that has less to do with her efforts, and more to do with her just being a convenient option.
 
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It is quite sad that Lucrezia still act like teens while dealing with adults like Zenjirou, Aura, and Freya. It will take a while but eventually she will understand.
I am just glad that while there are many conspiracies, Zenjirou, Aura, and Freya are quite straightforward and honest in dealing with things.
 
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It is quite sad that Lucrezia still act like teens while dealing with adults like Zenjirou, Aura, and Freya. It will take a while but eventually she will understand.
I am just glad that while there are many conspiracies, Zenjirou, Aura, and Freya are quite straightforward and honest in dealing with things.
That's just it, she's acting. She thinks that's what the MC finds attractive. She's nothing like that in private (was shown a few chapters back)
 
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The point is that if Zenjirou's smile changes, it's because she has lost his love due to her actions as Queen. And in the Light Novel, she's currently dreading that is the future between the two of them, because she's perceptively realized he's given up thinking that Aura will ever actually give him what he wants in this regard. She's projecting the bitterness or resentment that she's seen women forced to marry someone they don't want to.
And my point is that Aura as a queen would be perfectly content with that, so long as he continues following orders. It's Aura as a person that would have issues with that.
 
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Lucrezia is confirmed to be his next concubine, although they have not officially married yet. It's possible something major could happen and that could change but basically they are engaged. She gets some advice from Freya that if she wants to marry Zenjirou, she shouldn't go after him, but to go after Aura.

She is seen as problematic by Zenjirou as a concubine because she has no desires for the relationship itself, and is fine with anything and promises to behave herself. Zenjirou sees this as a problem because its hard to find a way to make her happy and discusses this with Freya and Aura who find this ideal, before they point out that he's exactly the same type of problematic as her in their eyes.
That sucks. No one likes her. Bona is a much better choice. Lucrezia is just a puppet through and through.
 
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I'm glad the general consensus is that Bona is a way better concubine candidate. Zenjiro's logic is very...him, but he doesn't seem to consider how she'd actually be quite content if she married him.

Girl just likes doing her work-hobby, and being attached to the Capuan family would absolve her of many fussy responsibilities getting in the way of that. Not to mention she gets to be up close with the cutting edge marble technology.

Freya jives quite well with Zenjiro as a potential wife for the exact same reason. He already provides her with everything she wants to be happy; in being himself, he happily allows his concubines to continue being themselves as a given.
Case in point: allowing her to confiscate the space-isolating barrier tool while on her ship. I bet Aura doesn't like that, but Zenjiro was able to see it from her point of view rather easily.
 
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Lucrezia is confirmed to be his next concubine, although they have not officially married yet. It's possible something major could happen and that could change but basically they are engaged. She gets some advice from Freya that if she wants to marry Zenjirou, she shouldn't go after him, but to go after Aura.

She is seen as problematic by Zenjirou as a concubine because she has no desires for the relationship itself, and is fine with anything and promises to behave herself. Zenjirou sees this as a problem because its hard to find a way to make her happy and discusses this with Freya and Aura who find this ideal, before they point out that he's exactly the same type of problematic as her in their eyes.
Actually, no, Lucrezia is not 'confirmed' anything, in fact the engagement planning is backburnered specifically to give more time for the issues Zenjirou sees as a problem to be worked out. They even went with a whole political excuse for doing so, which required disclosing the 'white empire' knowledge and the fact that the Lulled Sea given to Uppasala was a political trap.
 

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