Mikoto-chan wa Kirawaretakunai! - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Scars and Misunderstandings Part 1

[Oeconomist]

There is no evidence that this is a retcon. This plot point doesn't contradict any of the prior plot points we know of.

A retcon doesn't have to be a flat contradiction. Nothing in this story has denied that one of the characters is a child of Zeus; but if such a declaration is later made as if others have always known, that will be a major retcon.

This story suddenly had an element presented that, in a plausible telling, would have come much sooner, and would have been associated with the injury rather than with the start of high school.

 

[Fauntleroy]

Yup. Every site can be hit with a DMCA take-down demand.

I think that, from here on out, things are going increasingly to look like whack-a-mole. And, since rights-holders can find sites as quickly as can would-be readers, the suppression of scanlations will be increasingly successful.

Yea I'd be much easier to be a whacker than a whackee. A lot of groups are becoming demotivated too, understandably :/

 

[Robinisback]

>Reading Manga happily.
>DMCA hits
>The update list basically evaporates.
>I'm facing withdrawals due to lack of updates.
> Finally an updates arrives
> Group announces they're leaving the site and no more updates..

 

[qsx22]

Protect is MUST!! PROTECT MIKOTO!!

 

[Oeconomist]

A lot of groups are becoming demotivated too, understandably :/

Would-be scanlators should look for good work that failed commercially.

 

[Burner5]

A retcon doesn't have to be a flat contradiction. Nothing in this story has denied that one of the characters is a child of Zeus; but if such a declaration is later made as if others have always known, that will be a major retcon.

This story suddenly had an element presented that, in a plausible telling, would have come much sooner, and would have been associated with the injury rather than with the start of high school.

A retcon is used to describe when information changes prior scenes. Her scar doesn't directly change any of the prior scenes. We already knew she was bright and happy in middle school. We could already infer something happened due to her drastic change. It only adds the context of what caused her to change.

On your point on it needing to come up sooner, this is chapter 6. The story hasn't gone anywhere and doesn't need to go anywhere at the momenrt. It is still in the establishing stage. It needs to set up the characters before we care about the characters enough to be invested.
While a story of their relationship during the scarring incident could be interesting, it would require the story to start much earlier and have a much darker tone. A tone which would make a romcom harder to stomach.

 

[Oeconomist]

A retcon is used to describe when information changes prior scenes.

Here is the definition of “retcon” from Oxford Dictionaries:

a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events

I can find other, operationally identical definitions for you.

your point on it needing to come up sooner

Not my point, but a cheap imitation thereof. The scar would have come-up sooner in this story exactly because association of the change in her behavior with high school came-up sooner.

a romcom

So far, this story hasn't ever been a romcom; it's been a story about a fragile person on the edge of shattering. Rom? Presumably. Com? Not in the least.

 

[BakedBanana]

>Reading Manga happily.
>DMCA hits
>The update list basically evaporates.
>I'm facing lack of withdrawals due to lack of updates.
> Finally an updates arrives
> Group announces they're leaving the site and no more updates..

Can't escape the doomscrolling even in manga now.

 

[Chuito]

Seems like it. Mangadex looks to be trying to become more of a place of original work than translations

Not necessarily. Youtube has a similar clause and so do most websites that host user uploads.

It just not feasible for them to legally defend you if the publisher comes swinging for their copyright issues. It'd be nice to have youtube defend you legally whenever you upload a full movie but thats now how things work, similar applies here.
Remember you ARE uploading pirated content after all. While im thankful for the work on this manga, these hate brigades ive seen for mangadex are rather unwarranted.

This manga has been a lot of fun, I will miss having it here since its pretty tedious to check multiple different websites.

If anyone knows how to add thise sites to tachiyomi or mihon please let me know

 

[Burner5]

Here is the definition of “retcon” from Oxford Dictionaries:

The scar doesn't change the exact interpretation of events. It gives more context but it doesn't change anything.

Not my point, but a cheap imitation thereof. The scar would have come-up sooner in this story exactly because association of the change in her behavior with high school came-up sooner.

The change of her behaviour and what caused the change in her behaviour matters less than what her current behaviour is. Right now we are in the early chapters of this manga. The first volume. Thus we are in the establishing arc of the story.

So far, this story hasn't ever been a romcom; it's been a story about a fragile person on the edge of shattering. Rom? Presumably. Com? Not in the least.

This story is a rom com. It is based off a rom com. It has comedic elements in the way that it characterises the cuter aspects of Mikoto. Just because it is about a fragile person and has some darker aspects doesn't mean it is not a rom com.

 

[Andasen]

Here comes the depressing part

 

[FantasyMaster]

Here is the definition of “retcon” from Oxford Dictionaries:

I can find other, operationally identical definitions for you.

Not my point, but a cheap imitation thereof. The scar would have come-up sooner in this story exactly because association of the change in her behavior with high school came-up sooner.

So far, this story hasn't ever been a romcom; it's been a story about a fragile person on the edge of shattering. Rom? Presumably. Com? Not in the least.

Sorry, but I still don't understand what you want to say....
By the definition you quoted and your first message, that I quote:

It's a retcon pivot. The original set-up was unsustainable; at some point nearly all readers would hate the MMC.

It would mean, just by reading this, that in the first few chapters, it was stated that her change was caused by him.

But before this scar reveal, we were only told that she changed, not why. Which means that knowing now that the attack in middle school and the consequent scar are the reason why she's now gloomy, is in no way a retcon, since, as per the definition you quoted, we have NO "interpretation on previously described events".
This scar is, in much simplicity, just new information.

And it's not even a retcon if you want to push the "it happened in middle school, not in high school" card, because without any more info, at least atm, it could be possible that she left school to recover and MMC only met her again in hs.

This really made me check all the previous chapters and even the twitter stories version , just to find out there's nothing about this

 

[Oeconomist]

The scar doesn't change the exact interpretation of events.

If it didn't change the interpretation of events, then it would have no function in the storytelling.

The change of her behaviour and what caused the change in her behaviour matters less than what her current behaviour is.

One can simply look at some of the comments above to see how important the injury is to the storytelling.

This story is a rom com. It is based off a rom com. It has comedic elements in the way that it characterises the cuter aspects of Mikoto. Just because it is about a fragile person and has some darker aspects doesn't mean it is not a rom com.

A heartbreaking situation is not made actually comedic by a lack of empathy on the part of some members of the audience.

 

[Oeconomist]

I still don't understand what you want to say....

I don't have much felt need for you to understand.

It would mean, just by reading this, that in the first few chapters, it was stated that her change was caused by him.

You ought to recognize your own assumptions as assumptions, and not proceed to impute untenable positions to others that are artefacts of those assumptions.

But before this scar reveal, we were only told that she changed, not why.

Her change in behavior is not the only event, and hence not the only event the interpretation of which can be changed. I explicitly referred to audience response to the MMC.

 

[InfiniteCreator420]

What the hell is wrong with that hoe??? Acid attack on our cute girl??? hell nahhh And bro left her alone in her darkest time? he needs to repent for that sin by being with her and protecting her nonstop 24 hours

One word: Jealousy. An extremely ugly word. Perfectly associated with that acid-throwing bitch.

 

[Burner5]

If it didn't change the interpretation of events, then it would have no function in the storytelling.

The scar deepened our understanding of the event. It didn't change our understanding of the event. The scar could have been changed to something different and still not affect the basic story majorly.

One can simply look at some of the comments above to see how important the injury is to the storytelling.

Those comments are referring to JUST this current chapter, not the entire story. something that happens with every chapter with comments. Besides, those comments were made because people care about Mikoto due to her current behaviour not because of the scarring itself.

A heartbreaking situation is not made actually comedic by a lack of empathy on the part of some members of the audience.

Re-read chapter 2 and tell me Mikoto filling the glass to the brim isn't supposed to be levity. chapter 3 and tell me that Takase's interactions with the class president isn't supposed to be funny. Re-read chapter 4 and tell me that Mikoto's reactions aren't drawn in a comedic fashion. Re-read chapter 5 and tell me that them acting childish together isn't supposed to be cute and heart-warming. Just because there are serious elements to the story and the FMC has some deep issues that need addressing, doesn't mean the story isn't a comedy as well.

 

[FantasyMaster]

I don't have much felt need for you to understand.

You ought to recognize your own assumptions as assumptions, and not proceed to impute untenable positions to others that are artefacts of those assumptions.

Her change in behavior is not the only event, and hence not the only event the interpretation of which can be changed. I explicitly referred to audience response to the MMC.

Well, yes...I did assume based, as I said, on your first message.
If that bothered you, my bad...but if you didn't want people to assume, you could have explained much better what you wanted to convey.
You say

I explicitly referred to audience response to the MMC

and maybe you did read some comments that I haven't...but you didn't point out to that. You only wrote about a retcon and potentially people hating on MMC. Not much info about why.

But considering you "don't feel the need for me to understand" and therefore, you don't want to explain better, I'll politely keep assuming what I want.

I thought there could be a discussion, you proved me wrong. Point taken.

 

[WillTell]

I thought it would be a house fire or some shit, but this is just
anyway, I'll probably forget this series in a few days, like many others, because suddenly... they're gone...

 

[Squall_Leonhart]

So we are moving to comick for the time being.

sorry, but that site looks way too busy and in your face and is likely to be nuked in the near future too.

 

[Gustbk]

I’ll echo the sentiment some other commenters had that it would probably be better to keep uploading on MD as well as other places.

I for example don’t have the patience to manually check a bunch of other websites for updates on 6/10 stories. Hope you guys will work something out regardless.