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Forgive me, y'all posted a crap-ton while I was asleep and while I was at work so now begins my wall of text.
I'm also generally confused why he gave in so easily to Yami's seduction other than the hurr durr he's 15 what 15 year old boy in the throws of puberty would turn down free sex (and yes I made that argument previously but that's because I had nothing else to go on). I know the characters aren't perfect but it's hard to reconcile the whole "I loved you for 10 years" thing and I fucked the first willing girl that crossed my path thing. Did Yuu think his chance with Hikari was over forever and he decided to move on? I NEED THE YUU POV.
Again, without a Yuu POV I don't know how true the "he doesn't think of anyone around him" is. He's 15 and out of his depth when he was with Yami. He's 16 now and not much better. I think he's just a very very passive person with self esteem issues.

Just like the whole Yami trying to whore out Hikari incident, people are really focusing on the Yami slapping Yuu and Hikari pushing Yuu to the ground incidents. Bottom line, I think the author didn't really think about it when they added those scenes. I think they were meant as a cheap method to create drama and then you're supposed to just forget about them. The author is much better served by creating drama based on what people are saying. Also, I say this tongue in cheek, if us Hikari fans were able to put aside the whoring out incident, the Yuu fans should be able to set aside the assault incidents.
I think if Hikari was going to break she'd have done it by now. I think she'll continue to be resilient and work to get Aya out of her protective shell. I hope she takes the same tough route with Yuu and gets him to open up so Hikari can get the full picture.Yeah, it lools like she's trying to make people around her to stop with the bullshit. The last panels Aya taunting Hikari looks like a setup for a final bitchslap to Aya.
Now, will that happen or Hikari will break on how horrible Aya is being to her?
This is why I want a Yuu POV so bad. I just don't understand why he does some of the things he does. Does he even know her first name? She told him her name was Yami and that's what he calls her. Does he know her last name? She's never shown him where she lives. He knows a little bit about her home life but not enough about her life in general to justify how long they "dated". I struggle to call it dating because it seems they either hung out in a manga cafe or met up in love hotels. Did she ever go to his house? I don't think she did because she acted clueless about Hikari's neighbor (Yuu) during the sleepover.Yes, which if he cared about Aya more than Hikari finding out would maybe be a risk worth taking. Granted, 'm also slightly baffled that he never put together that Aya chan was Yami sempai since Aya behaves much the same w/ both of them and he knows Aya goes to Hikari's school and was cutting class often enough that being held back was plausible.
I'm also generally confused why he gave in so easily to Yami's seduction other than the hurr durr he's 15 what 15 year old boy in the throws of puberty would turn down free sex (and yes I made that argument previously but that's because I had nothing else to go on). I know the characters aren't perfect but it's hard to reconcile the whole "I loved you for 10 years" thing and I fucked the first willing girl that crossed my path thing. Did Yuu think his chance with Hikari was over forever and he decided to move on? I NEED THE YUU POV.
I know it can be easy to miss but in Chapter 40 Yuu finds out that Yami and Hikari are close friends. He asks Yami about it and asks if Hikari knows about the past romance. Yami mentions Hikari doesn't know and that Yami just found out that Yuu was the boy that Hikari liked. With that knowledge, Yuu still went and confessed to Hikari. Again, I have to point out how odd this is. If I was about to ask a girl out and I found out that I used to date her best friend I feel it would be inappropriate for me not to mention this fact. I have to give the girl a chance to talk to her best friend first. Should also point out that the onus on Yuu talking to Hikari about his relationship with Yami is not 100% on him. The moment Yami found out (I believe it was months ago as she found out during the amusement park date which I think was in summer and the school festival is September/October) that the boy Hikari liked was her ex she should have told Hikari. Yuu had prior knowledge for all of 30 minutes whereas Yami had it for months.Is that something he should of been honest about especially knowing the results? It's one thing if he initiated the kiss but she forced herself on him. Don't really see him as a bad guy for wanting to keep secret that he was in a prior relationship.
I agree there was no closure between Yuu and Yami but I think it's less Yuu sweeping the whole thing under the rug and more that he's had a year or so to come to terms with it and he's since moved on. Yuu most likely believes Yami no longer had feelings for him which is why she ghosted him. Yami, meanwhile, still has feelings for Yuu and has been stewing about it the entire time. Yes, she's lashing out at Yuu but it's her own fault not Yuu's. I mean she just got done telling Yuu that he was boring and didn't really mean anything to her (we know she was lying about that but Yuu doesn't and Yuu has nowhere near the emotional intelligence of Hikari so he's not going to decipher Yami's rantings).There was no closure between them. Being friends is one thing but he was basically brushing it all under the rug because it was convenient for him now that he was going to go confess to Hikari.
Exactly why Yami lashed the fuck out. Yuu basically got his rocks off and moved on easily.
I agree but those are two pretty major faults all things considered imo and directly connect to the whole "he doesn't think of anyone around him." Hikari absolutely deserved to know that he'd gotten with Yami as soon as he knew they were friends, regardless if he knew that she knew they kissed or not.
Again, without a Yuu POV I don't know how true the "he doesn't think of anyone around him" is. He's 15 and out of his depth when he was with Yami. He's 16 now and not much better. I think he's just a very very passive person with self esteem issues.
I feel like a broken record but I have to point out that without a Yuu POV I have to give him some benefit of the doubt. I think him not talking to Hikari about her mood (which he did notice) was a combination of him being mind-fucked from the previous Yami encounter and his nervousness about confessing to Hikari. The confession is a culmination of 10 years of pining. I think that's really why he ignored every warning sign and bulldozed his way through.No it doesn't matter what he believes Hikari thinks whatsoever, throughout the dance she was silent and distant, totally the contrary of what she usually is. If he just asked her what happened to her, he should have avoided this situation turning so bad.
Is not that he is a pushover and dense, which yeah but that's not that bad in itself, but it looks he just thinks of himself, he went straight to confess when all the alarms were going off. That's beyond being dense, I can't believe anyone in that situation would not realize what's going on.
People give shit to Yuu for not being on point like a shoujo crush of the fmc and I think a lot of people were very hard on him for no real reason because until that point it only hurted himself, but this is not one of those situations. He fucked up and hurted everyone for selfish reasons.
Yes, if the kiss never happened it would still be a bad situation because Yuu now knows Yami and Hikari are close friends and Yami is at fault for not telling Hikari (sitting on it for months) and Yuu is at fault for not telling Hikari (sitting on it for 30 minutes). It's not the same level of fault but both Yuu and Yami suck for not talking to Hikari.Are seriously telling that If Yami never kissed Yuu the situation would have been the same?
See, this is what I get for trying to comb through 8+ pages of comments that happened while I was asleep/at work. I'm typing up a wall of text and then someone comes along and concisely says what I'm thinking. How dare you!While I think you're almost completely right I disagree slightly that it was him being purely just selfish- yeah, that's 100% a part of it but I think very much a part of it is he's just a dumb teenager who assumed he was overthinking shit
He picked up that she was acting off and just...did it anyways probably because he thought he was overthinking it which lines up with his character imo didn't trust his own instincts if he had just trusted what he was thinking it could have gone completely differently
Dude, get out of my head! I'm half contemplating just deleting everything and replacing it with "just go read what middle-the-nerd and mug3n are saying."Alright fuck it time to make my prediction what part 4 is gonna be at least partially
We're in for another flashback from Yuu's POV to show his past with Hikari more (and hopefully show what those heartbreaks that were mentioned are)
Yeah yeah i know people here hate flashbacks, and don't want more, but I honestly think we need to see more shit from Yuu's POV to flesh his character out some and showing his past with Hikari would be a great way to do it
If that happens it's right up there with the ending of Usagi Drop for me.All that I know anymore-
God I don't want a Yuu x Yami ending PLEASE
I think everyone is so focused on what Yuu should have done when Yami ghosted him when they should really be focused on what Yuu should have done before all that. I said it earlier but why did he not insist on knowing more about Yami. He does attempt to glean more info from her but the moment she pushes back he just gives up instead of trying a second time. If he had some more information about her he might have been able to track her down when she ghosted him. It's just weird to "date" someone for so long and not really know anything about them.The problem comes from the fact that Yuu's "bad deeds" are flimsy, unfair and victim-blame-y.
Yuu is Yami's ghosted ex. Not her keeper. Yami herself is the one supposed to keep herself in line. not Yuu.
If someone is assaulted. Are gonna say their bad for not wanting to talking about it or pretend it didn't happen? Are you also gonna say that their bad for not solving the problem caused by them being assaulted?
Just like the whole Yami trying to whore out Hikari incident, people are really focusing on the Yami slapping Yuu and Hikari pushing Yuu to the ground incidents. Bottom line, I think the author didn't really think about it when they added those scenes. I think they were meant as a cheap method to create drama and then you're supposed to just forget about them. The author is much better served by creating drama based on what people are saying. Also, I say this tongue in cheek, if us Hikari fans were able to put aside the whoring out incident, the Yuu fans should be able to set aside the assault incidents.
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science? I don't know why I bother to type - y'all just read what story645 says in a much more concise method than lil' ol' me.I think she did it to push Hikari away/test Hikari rather than spite, but I agree that she also did it b/c she's still in love with Yuu. Which is what I think Hikari is basically saying in this chapter - Aya chose this very messed up method to communicate to Hikari (and Yuu) that Aya is still in love w/ Yuu. All the things can be true - Aya is choosing this method to give Hikari an easy out (b/c Aya is being awful) & the easy out means Hikari would be rejecting Aya for the lies rather than the real person. It's a way to have the truth out there while also evading actual vulnerability.
ETA, which yeah right, Yuu basically took the easy out here of she's being awful so he's gonna dip instead of confronting her like Hikari is. Which I don't judge him for - like if he doesn't want a relationship w/ her, he shouldn't force one for the sake of being nice. But that's also what Aya is reading in his "let's keep in touch" b/c he's not confronting her.