Maou ni Natta node, Dungeon Tsukutte Jingai Musume to Honobono Suru - Ch. 81.2

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I like that last page.

The face of a young woman, knowing what is about to happen.

The face of the man that has chosen to stand beside her, and give her everything she needs.

Argos Radrio's shit is profoundly fucked.
 
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Anyone know what chapter this is in the WN? I've already read thru the whole WN and got caught up yo the raws but that was like 2 years ago so id like to restart it but starting from where this is
Should be around chapter 220 of the WN.
 
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I actually thought that the assassin would be behind him and slice his throat with a string but no.
so it means something worse is in waiting for him.. good.
 
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People without hope are easier to control. A defeated Nell will either bend to his will, or be in a place to not contest her removal from being the Hero, and he could put a more controllable lackey in the position.
Well, that's what everyone's meant to think.
The actual reason is pretty bullshit to be honest and paints the mastermind as some kind of clairvoyant, even though it's glossed over on how he could aquire the needed intel or predict how the other side would react...
 
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Anyone know what chapter this is in the WN? I've already read thru the whole WN and got caught up yo the raws but that was like 2 years ago so id like to restart it but starting from where this is
Ch. 222 my man. Though, they did skip a lot of details, so reading a bit of chapters before this one would be recommended.
 
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I'm smelling these noble will be eaten by the dragon :>
This may be a bit of a spoiler, but you should know Yuki is going above and beyond preventing Lefi from ever fighting again. He wants to be the man of the house, and he wants to keep his girls as safe as possible, but he is specially keen on keeping Lefi out of the battlefield. Nell on the other hand wants to continue being a hero, so he will go above and beyond keeping her safe while she still does missions for her Kingdom, while training her to be the strongest human.
 
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Well, that's what everyone's meant to think.
The actual reason is pretty bullshit to be honest and paints the mastermind as some kind of clairvoyant, even though it's glossed over on how he could aquire the needed intel or predict how the other side would react...
No, getting rid of Nell and placing a dummy hero in her place is really the reason for al this. We're even going to meet him pretty soon. Basically, he who controls the hero controls the church faction.
 
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I'm not sure if you've read the LN, but this is not the case.
The hight rank aristocrat who's behind this fancies himself an ultra patriot and doesn't care who the hero is. He is threatening Nell, to get Youki to become the country's defender for her sake. As a side objective, he wants him to eliminate the corrupt nobles who jumped at the chance to attack her for their own gain. He admitted to all of this during their conversation. My gripe is, that it's never explained how he got to know about Youki's true nature (even Nell's closest friend does not know) as well as what the hell made him think he'd walk out alive after meeting a pissed off demon lord. Even worse, he gets everything he wants with zero negative consequences, even though there's no reason at all to indulge him. So yeah, he's a Gary Stu character that's clairvoyant, never faces the music, despite endangering an entire city and has the last laugh simply because.
 
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I'm not sure if you've read the LN, but this is not the case.
The hight rank aristocrat who's behind this fancies himself an ultra patriot and doesn't care who the hero is. He is threatening Nell, to get Youki to become the country's defender for her sake. As a side objective, he wants him to eliminate the corrupt nobles who jumped at the chance to attack her for their own gain. He admitted to all of this during their conversation. My gripe is, that it's never explained how he got to know about Youki's true nature (even Nell's closest friend does not know) as well as what the hell made him think he'd walk out alive after meeting a pissed off demon lord. Even worse, he gets everything he wants with zero negative consequences, even though there's no reason at all to indulge him. So yeah, he's a Gary Stu character that's clairvoyant, never faces the music, despite endangering an entire city and has the last laugh simply because.
Not at this stage no. He doesn't try to use Yuki until AFTER all his plans fail. At this stage in the story, they really were trying to get rid of Nell, put that duke's son in the hero's position, and eventually eliminate the king and princess and take over completely. Yes, the nobleman behind everything is really loyal to the country, and he would do ANYTHING to keep it safe. He is smart, and thus, he comes up with the idea of using Nell to make a deal with Yuki and promising Yuki that he will do EVERYTHING in his power to keep anyone off her back while she is working for the kingdom (as in, not allowing more conspiracies against Nell to happen). Yuki feels like he is being used, since by having Nell take on hard objectives, the old man knows Yuki will get involved and solve any problems for the kingdom. But this is not a plan that was in motion from the beginning. Like I said, the the old man is smart, he comes up with plans on the fly, and even Yuki regrets not killing him due to how scheming the old man is (Yuki doesn't like the fact he is letting a manipulative man walk free in spite of all the damage he caused).
 
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Disregarding whether it was the plan from the start or not (I don't currently have access to the source to check), it's definetly not smart. There was no reason for the MC not to get rid of him and simply put pressure on the king to achieve the same effect. Now he has to deal with a fanatic that will turn on him on a dime, if he judges it optimal "for the country". The author clearly wanted to put the MC in a tight spot, but it makes no sense - int the worst case, even if he can't just crush the country because of Nell, he has the means to root out everyone involved in any schemes one by one untill all in power get the picture: everything crumbles around you if work against the hero. It might be more work, but it's definetly a more stable solution, plus the main suspects would be the church anyway.
 
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Disregarding whether it was the plan from the start or not (I don't currently have access to the source to check), it's definetly not smart. There was no reason for the MC not to get rid of him and simply put pressure on the king to achieve the same effect. Now he has to deal with a fanatic that will turn on him on a dime, if he judges it optimal "for the country". The author clearly wanted to put the MC in a tight spot, but it makes no sense - int the worst case, even if he can't just crush the country because of Nell, he has the means to root out everyone involved in any schemes one by one untill all in power get the picture: everything crumbles around you if work against the hero. It might be more work, but it's definetly a more stable solution, plus the main suspects would be the church anyway.
No, I agree with you. Sadly, EVERY main enemy seems to follow the same pattern. Most of them don't get punished, and MC, in spite of being the psycho murderer he is, spares a lot of would be tyrants along the way. The evil demon king for example, never gets a rematch with MC. The guy working with the evil demon king, gets the same treatment as the duke in the human kingdom, they get stripped of their title, but they will still work behind the scenes helping out MC. The old lady that came the closest to actually harming MC also gets spared because it turned out to be an old lady pulling the strings. Most main bad guys don't get punished, only their minions get slaughtered in mass.
 
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I also don't understand why the author makes these arcs go that way, when it was established early on that the MC is all too willing to go on rampages if provoked. He doesn't even consider himself a merciful person or have any real attachement to his former humanity (he almost slaughtered a whole city worth of innocent people at the beggining). Suddenly, when there's a legitimate cause to solve the issue with violence, he does the opposite, even when it's to his detriment. Is this what the author considers a mature approach?
 
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