Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 41 - Everything, Falling Apart

[vipguy64]

Also, @vipguy64, I noticed that chapters 13.5 and 21.5 are listed under Volume 1, but since the official publication doesn’t include them, could you move them out?

I'll keep 21.5 in volume 1 because once chapters get added to volume 2 and 3, people reading would be automatically moved to the next no volume chapter after finishing volume 3. It'd feel weird for them to go to chapter 21.5. There's plenty of extras on the site already that are in a volume, but aren't actually like Twitter extras for serialized manga. If anyone translates the extras for volume 1 they can mark it as chapter 21.6 or have the current 21.5 changed to 21.6 with a report.

13.5 it was decided to be put into volume 2.5 since it was released as a pamphlet with volume 2 and because it spoils the plot. Another mod didn't know about this and just moved it to volume 1 again.

 

[GennArc]

Honestly I think she probably cares more about Yuu being an "idealized" version

How? Idealized in what way? I mean, even in her own inner monologue in chapter 40 she goes

The usual wimpy Yuu expression.

There hasn't been a single instance of Yami idealizing Yuu.
We argued about this with story645 already, but for me it's quite clear that they just had a good chemistry and enjoyed talking to each other. And this new novel chapter confirms this, because as Yuu points out, Yami was always smiling with him.

41.5? So then that'd actually seemingly take place after the current one which definitely has me interested

Spoiler

Comiket announcement even has the name of the extra chapter, which is "A week after that day", so yeah, it takes place after 41.

 

[Litreara]

The novel volume appears to have undergone the most changes. There are fewer chapters than in the web novel version, so I suppose Maruto merged some of them. Here’s the table of contents for the official Volume 1 of the novel:

プロローグ
第一章 ちっぽけで適当で大きなきっかけ
第二章 恋バナ百物語
第三章 窓越しのお向かいさん
第四章 滑りっぱなしのファーストデート
第五章 じめじめもやもやからっから
第六章 七月第四土曜日の長い夜
第七章 心に染み入るセカンドデート
第八章 夏の終わりのロースター(無煙)
第九章 ちょっとだけ、大きな大きな変化
第十章 泣き顔の約束
第十一 章 はじまりの学園祭
エピローグ

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Prologue
Chapter 1: A Tiny, Carefree, and Big Turning Point
Chapter 2: One Hundred Love Stories
Chapter 3: The Neighbor Across the Window
Chapter 4: A First Date That Kept Slipping Away
Chapter 5: From Damp and Hazy to Bone-Dry
Chapter 6: The Long Night of the Fourth Saturday in July
Chapter 7: A Second Date That Touched the Heart
Chapter 8: Smokeless Roaster at Summer’s End
Chapter 9: A Slightly, but Greatly, Big Change
Chapter 10: A Promise Made in Tears
Chapter 11: The First School Festival
Epilogue

 

[GennArc]

The novel volume appears to have undergone the most changes. There are fewer chapters than in the web novel version, so I suppose Maruto merged some of them. Here’s the table of contents for the official Volume 1 of the novel:

The novel definitely got much more meat. Amazon page says 238 pages, while the doujinshi volume 1 had 200, which includes manga, novel and extra illustrations. LN version probably has illustrations too, but it's still mostly just text.
I don't expect any translations, but if someone ever picked it up, would be interesting to check out.

 

[story645]

There hasn't been a single instance of Yami idealizing Yuu.

Yami's crash out is a laundry list of things she had thought Yuu was the type of person to do b/c in her head that's what a great boyfriend who loves someone does. She thinks Yuu doesn't love her b/c he didn't meet her expectations of what that looks like; b/c he didn't meet those expectations she then instead tries to slot him into the trash her mom dates - only w/ her to get laid. Like yeah Aya acknowledges his wimpy expression but her crash out is screaming that she expected him to get over it for her. On the flip Hikari internally is frustrated by his cowardice but in the confession commiserates by relating to her own cowardice.

Where like getting to know Yuu, it's pretty clear that that's absolutely not how he operates - he doesn't do grand risk taking gestures and absolutely will not push someone to talk if they don't want to and also as Hikari says doesn't do FWB.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yeah, like some of the fight w/ Hikari in the last chapter is Hikari being like "Yuu isn't like that" b/c he's actually not (as the latest novella chapter makes clear) - which right, Hikari's defending him in this bonkers situation where she has all the reasons to be done w/ all of it.

Yeah imo Hikari isn't suddenly disillusioned with Yuu or anything-
at most she seems to think he's an idiot for thinking so little of himself and that he's not good enough for her but she doesn't actually think less of him for it

She's mainly just hurt he'd lie to her the way he did

Yes & it's also the exact same cope folks on here have been saying & I say it's cope b/c it's such a hypothetical b/c, as these novella chapters also indicate, Yuu never really tried anything to get Hikari to see him in a different light (that Hikari knows about).

Yeah seems like he never properly tried from what we've seen

 

[story645]

and enjoyed talking to each other.

I was mostly trying to point out that they don't talk about anything important, which is more or less the same complaint Aya makes.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

I checked on Amazon, and it lets you preview the table of contents. Here it is:

Apparently, the extra content includes new illustrations and a bonus chapter or side story, which seems to be a novel chapter rather than a manga chapter:

Edit: I think “Newly Drawn – Dangerous Close Call” is actually an extra manga chapter.

Also, @vipguy64, I noticed that chapters 13.5 and 21.5 are listed under Volume 1, but since the official publication doesn’t include them, could you move them out?

Thanks!!! Yeah I'm 90% sure the extra chapter is a manga one because Yom made a tweet about preparing a new chapter for the release
https://x.com/y_o_m_y_o_m/status/1935646304191066157?t=OYXfB5P5WGbpoYpecSS7Ug&s=19

Spoiler

Comiket announcement even has the name of the extra chapter, which is "A week after that day", so yeah, it takes place after 41.

Ooooooh yep that's a tad exciting especially given that it's a week after

The novel volume appears to have undergone the most changes. There are fewer chapters than in the web novel version, so I suppose Maruto merged some of them. Here’s the table of contents for the official Volume 1 of the novel:

Yeah that makes sense since I think going from web novels to light novels tends to rework stuff alot

I'd honestly be more interested in seeing than the manga Volume tbh there would probably be more to see

The novel definitely got much more meat. Amazon page says 238 pages, while the doujinshi volume 1 had 200, which includes manga, novel and extra illustrations. LN version probably has illustrations too, but it's still mostly just text.
I don't expect any translations, but if someone ever picked it up, would be interesting to check out.

Same I'd be very interested in reading it but yeah not exactly expecting translations lmao

Wonder if there's anything that'd REALLY be worth seeing in it

 

[Thepio33]

Yo, I didn't sign up for this abandonment play. It's like being shown the picture right before 2 trains collide and not being shown the outcome. (In all seriousness, translation teams you are awesome. It's just this wait is unbearable)

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yami's crash out is a laundry list of things she had thought Yuu was the type of person to do b/c in her head that's what a great boyfriend who loves someone does. She thinks Yuu doesn't love her b/c he didn't meet her expectations of what that looks like; b/c he didn't meet those expectations she then instead tries to slot him into the trash her mom dates - only w/ her to get laid. Like yeah Aya acknowledges his wimpy expression but her crash out is screaming that she expected him to get over it for her.

Exactly even if she recognizes what he's like that she still expects him to be/act differently so that he can be kind of boyfriend she wants

On the flip Hikari internally is frustrated by his cowardice but in the confession commiserates by relating to her own cowardice.

Yeah she gets internally frustrated by his cowardice but is also very understanding about it and likes him anyways

Where like getting to know Yuu, it's pretty clear that that's absolutely not how he operates - he doesn't do grand risk taking gestures and absolutely will not push someone to talk if they don't want to and also as Hikari says doesn't do FWB.

Yep it's not how he operates at all lol Yuu is shy and self concussion as HELL it's why even when Hikari was making it clear she liked him he was too anxious to confess for awhile because he didn't feel sure enough

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yo, I didn't sign up for this abandonment play. It's like being shown the picture right before 2 trains collide and not being shown the outcome. (In all seriousness, translation teams you are awesome. It's just this wait is unbearable)

Yep the wait SUCKS

At least it seems like we'll hopefully be getting chapter 41.5 soon

 

[GennArc]

Yami's crash out is a laundry list of things she had thought Yuu was the type of person to do b/c in her head that's what a great boyfriend who loves someone does.

No. She secretly hoped for it, but did not expect it. Because she says it in her monologue, that it's crazy to expect anything from him, since he is a victim in that situation.

That kind of thing—there’s no way you could’ve done it. It’s not realistic.

In fact, if you had done all that, it’d be stalker behavior. Anyone would be creeped out.

So it's clear she doesn't think he was that type of person.

b/c he didn't meet those expectations she then instead tries to slot him into the trash her mom dates

Where do you even get this from? This is so far removed from what's in the novel and the manga that I just can't imagine why you would think that.

I was mostly trying to point out that they don't talk about anything important, which is more or less the same complaint Aya makes.

She didn't make that kind of complaint, but I'm not even addressing the period when they were dating, I'm talking about why they got together.

 

[story645]

Where do you even get this from

Her passive aggressive swipes that he's only w/ her for sex. Her telling Hikari they were FWBs and Hikari believing Aya means it enough to challenge her on it.

She didn't make that kind of complaint,

What's "why didn't you push me about my family/what was going on?"

Because she says it in her monologue, that it's crazy to expect anything from him, since he is a victim in that situation.

Hope only exists b/c on some level she thinks it's possible. Saying it's crazy to expect anything from him is acknowledging she's being unreasonable, not that she didn't have those expectations. She wouldn't be so resentful (and like being this mad a year later is deep resentment) if she truly had no expectations.

ETA: Also she flat out says that she thinks he doesn't care about her b/c he didn't do those things. Even if she knows she's being unreasonable, she's still filtering his actions through her expectations to come to the conclusion he doesn't care about her when nothing in his actions outright indicate that.

 

[GennArc]

Her passive aggressive swipes that he's only w/ her for sex.

I thought maybe I forgot something and went to reread the chapters. I found no such thing. Please help me find those.

Her telling Hikari they were FWBs and Hikari believing Aya means it

It's clearly the other way round. They both knew she didn't mean it.

What's "why didn't you push me about my family/what was going on?"

Please help me find when she ever said anything like this.

Hope only exists b/c on some level she thinks it's possible.

Hope can exist unless you know something can't happen, so unless the probability is 0%. Expectations are a measurement of likelihood, like I expect something to happen if I think the probability is over 50%. Expectations are more or less rational, while hope is wishful.

 

[story645]

. I found no such thing.

We fought about this before and you kept insisting she was joking but it wouldn't come out in her crash out if it was just a joke:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/161f3b54-1bd3-4ba0-995c-dd6c8dce9d0b/2

It's clearly the other way round. They both knew she didn't mean it.

Then Hikari would just say that Aya didn't mean it/she doesn't think that. B/c that's exactly how Hikari calls out Aya saying she was in it for the FWB - not that Aya isn't the type but that Aya is lying.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/741a93f9-b58a-4677-8d3e-8b74e761852d/7

Expectations are more or less rational, while hope is wishful.

Legit so much of going to therapy is learning to manage expectations and learning how to recognize when they're unreasonable.

Here she says "she wanted him to do those things and hated that he didn't" - you can't hate someone for not doing things you have no expectation of them doing:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/046cc708-8f96-47ad-809a-840dcd671c63/16

And whether unreasonable or not, Yuu not meeting these expectations is why Yami thinks he didn't care all that much for her.

Please help me find when she ever said anything like this.

Fine thought:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/046cc708-8f96-47ad-809a-840dcd671c63/7

 

[GennArc]

We fought about this before and you kept insisting she was joking

Even if we assume she wasn't joking here on this page, it's not even close to "you're with me only for sex", it's "you must be very horny right now" at most.

but it wouldn't come out in her crash out

And it didn't. I don't want to ask for evidence again, but it's not that hard to check, she didnt't mention a thing like that.

Then Hikari would just say that Aya didn't mean it/she doesn't think that. B/c that's exactly how Hikari calls out Aya saying she was in it for the FWB - not that Aya isn't the type but that Aya is lying.

Hikari: “I know you're not that kind of person, Aya-chan.”
Yami: “No, that’s not—”
Hikari: “Even before we met, I know you were always a kind girl.”

Here she says "she wanted him to do those things and hated that he didn't" - you can't hate someone for not doing things you have no expectation of them doing

She doesn't hate him for not doing it, she hates the fact he didn't do it. Which is again about rational vs wishful.

Fine thought

I don't want to be grasping at straws, but this is again not about him "asking about her family". It's about him not being able to recognise that she is in fact not fine and not doing too well.

 

[story645]

it's not even close to "you're with me only for sex", it's "you must be very horny right now" at most.

Aya taunted Hikari w/ "bind him w/ your body" b/c that's what Aya thought she had to do to keep Yuu - we already know from the previous chapters that Aya thinks Yuu is in love w/ Hikari so there's absolutely no reason for this comment except as resentful snark/projection.

Which again, right, the comment while dating, the assertion of FWB, the taunting - a recurrent theme w/ Aya is reducing her relationship with Yuu to sex. Which also, Aya has not been written as cruel enough to tell her best friend that her best friends crush/beloved childhood friend only used her for sex if she didn't believe that on some level.

She doesn't hate him for not doing it, she hates the fact he didn't do it

She hates the fact b/c she takes it to mean he let go of her, where she associates love with him reaching out his hand. Maruto also uses this metaphor in the break up chapter & Hikari grabbing onto Aya at the first festival.

We the reader know that Yuu had no intention to let Aya go - this was how she interpreted his actions based on her expectations of what holding on means. That's what holding someone to idealized expectations is.

It's about him not being able to recognise that she is in fact not fine and not doing too well.

The reason I take it as him not asking is b/c she first thinks about her mother which is something he doesn't know much about b/c they never really discussed it.

 

[ErogeMC]

Yeah I know to me it's just an absolutely hilarious way to leave the series off on for months lmao

Honestly whole chapters kind of wild “I mean, come on… the only reason you fell for him in the first place was because he got better in bed after sleeping with me, right?” is also a pretty insane line and to me unintentionally very funny


I'm mixed on that- I feel like she'd probably still like him but it'd just put a completely NEW strain on there relationship and she'd probably not be able get everything she's looking for out of it just like before

Honestly I think she probably cares more about Yuu being an "idealized" version than Hikari would who doesn't seem to care nearly as much about his flaws as long as he's open about them

Yami left Yuu because of her issues Yuu keeps whining about not being perfect for Yami but she literally compares herself to Hikari.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yami left Yuu because of her issues Yuu keeps whining about not being perfect for Yami but she literally compares herself to Hikari.

I didn't say that isn't why she left though lol

 

[GennArc]

Aya taunted Hikari w/ "bind him w/ your body" b/c that's what Aya thought she had to do to keep Yuu

I am quite sure this is mostly referencing their first night, or, to be precise, the moment when they came to the station after the failed first attempt.

"Yami-senpai... why now, all of a sudden?"

At the hotel, I didn't kiss him.
Even when I let him touch anywhere else, I wouldn't let him touch my lips.

But now?
Now, I couldn't hold back.
I had to do everything I could.

"So, you say that, and yet..."
"...!"

Not just a kiss.
Everything -- my body, my words, my all -- had to be used to make sure he wouldn't leave.

All because he was never going to take initiative. That's all up to interpretation, of course, but I think this is the most likely answer. In that very dialogue Hikari already said there had to be love involved, and Yami couldn't refute it.
But that's beyond the point, because she never said or thought he was with her for sex.

Aya has not been written as cruel enough to tell her best friend that her best friends crush/beloved childhood friend only used her for sex if she didn't believe that on some level.

You keep making this point (that she had to believe it on some level), but the whole dialogue is built upon her trying to make herself look like a villain, whereas Yuu is her victim. She says he is "one of those guys she hooked up with", that she never had any feelings for him and so on. Does she also believe that on some level?

She hates the fact b/c she takes it to mean he let go of her, where she associates love with him reaching out his hand.

Well, yes? In her ideal world he would've done it, and she is sad that ideal world didn't come true. That's exactly how hope works. Hope, not expectations.

The reason I take it as him not asking is b/c she first thinks about her mother which is something he doesn't know much about b/c they never really discussed it.

That entire dialogue was about him accepting her lies, because seeing through them meant more regrets. And every time she was frustrated that he had accepted them. It's not about "they didn't talk about important things when they were dating" as you suggested, it's about that specific moment when he decided to take an easy way out and go along with what she is saying.