Suna Mahou de Suna no Oukoku wo Tsukurou ~Sabaku ni Tsuihou Sareta kara Ganbatte Sokoku Ijou no Kokka wo Tatete Mita~ - Vol. 2 Ch. 10

[Bloddrake]

i came here to say this
fuck you mean "as much as the castle can store" brother that is the castle, literally the shit you made the castle out of because you have free and complete dominion over the stuff

that said, this chapter really raises some questions about what the actual fuck "sand magic" is supposed to be in this setting that i overlooked til now, because while iron sand is like, standard sand containing iron particles or w/e (which already brought up questions since it wouldn't be any harder than normal sand, they treat it like it's got the properties of smelted iron but it's still just fucking particles), "diamond sand" etc would essentially just be small crushed diamonds, right..? can bro just control literally any material in small & numerous enough form that it can act as a liquid (without actually being liquid)? can he manipulate flour/yeast/salt/etc and make especially fluffy bread? is the true form of his power cocaine-o-mancy? i need to know!

I think they are going with the literal definition of sand, which i mentioned in an earlier chapter, is not a material but a size of granulate. so his magic can manipulate anything as long as it fits the parameter of sand.

 

[ScryedParadox]

Basically. Anything can be sand as long as it's ground up fine enough.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

Just write that the goblins eat the slaves instead of rape. As far as their reproduction goes, just write in female goblins or just ignore it completely. Goblins being only males isn’t definitive since it’s all fiction anyway.

I mean like 90% of fantasy series have it where goblins are just a male species with no females. Some do indeed have it where goblins have female counterparts and those series don’t typically have goblins that rape (see reincarnated as a slime for an example of female goblins and a version of goblins that don’t rape).

Also did you really put that they should have eaten the women instead of raping them? You do get that’s way worse right?

 

[Doomer]

so i guess the sister is gonna be stuck in chains for a while longer and the cuffs are gonna be a character, maybe MC will even turn it human at some point like all the others.

 

[PhycoKrusk]

Well, at least one of them isn't a slut....

 

[Wolvenworks]

Being magically altered to give birth to goblins opens up a lot of questions.

I’ve seen enough hentai to think of the pussybilities

 

[Lunasol]

Jewel sand...

Well, They are in size of sands.

Also you are right about it. Those jewel were supposed to build (grow) into a single huge gem. Not into many tiny gems.

 

[BestBoy]

Everyone talking about jewel sand and whether goblins are usually male only rape monsters (warcraft and DnD beg to differ), but no one is asking what the hell a SLOW GOBLIN is??

 

[Nitram4392]

I like Phi.
She sexy and assertive.

 

[S0LUS]

Everyone talking about jewel sand and whether goblins are usually male only rape monsters (warcraft and DnD beg to differ), but no one is asking what the hell a SLOW GOBLIN is??

huh? did they use the term more than once? i only remember seeing "slow goblin curse", as in it's a slow(-acting) curse cast by a goblin, not a curse cast by a slow(-moving? -witted?) goblin. could be wrong, could've missed any other instances... like i said, i was confused about what the fuck bro's powers are, & why he's leaving the jewels behind instead of making his entire castle out of diamonds if grinding up any mineral is all it takes to make it a valid target for his power

 

[Hoezell]

Jewel sand????
What's next? Rice sand and water sand????
smh

 

[ikinetsu]

I need me a woman like Phi

 

[Oeconomist]

Coming-up: sand made of ice ground down to the size of single molecules.

Jewel sand????
What's next? Rice sand and water sand????
smh

* sigh *

 

[Menhir]

Bro just grab the titties, you have full consent

 

[BestBoy]

huh? did they use the term more than once? i only remember seeing "slow goblin curse", as in it's a slow(-acting) curse cast by a goblin, not a curse cast by a slow(-moving? -witted?) goblin. could be wrong, could've missed any other instances... like i said, i was confused about what the fuck bro's powers are, & why he's leaving the jewels behind instead of making his entire castle out of diamonds if grinding up any mineral is all it takes to make it a valid target for his power

It's actually "slow goblin's curse" and slow is describing the goblin and not the curse. Otherwise it'd be "goblin's slow curse." Plus curses are commonly permanent. Why would it be slow?

 

[S0LUS]

It's actually "slow goblin's curse" and slow is describing the goblin and not the curse. Otherwise it'd be "goblin's slow curse." Plus curses are commonly permanent. Why would it be slow?

by that last bit of logic, if they were curses then food poisoning (which sets in quickly) should last forever, while lung cancer (might take a long time to be discovered) should fade away in a day... right? because permanent things have to happen quickly? obviously the onset speed of a condition has nothing to do with its permanence, whether it's magical in nature or not lol. and i'd imagine something as stereotypically weak as a goblin doesn't have the magical capacity to snap its fingers and convert someone of a different species' biology to be able to bear goblin children in a day, you know? hence it being a slow curse. maybe they can cast a relatively simple curse to kill someone or whatever & that takes effect within the day, but this is clearly more complicated and energy-consuming than just stopping a heart. they cast it on the prisoners, feed it magic over a few weeks or months, and eventually the victim is converted to be able to make more goblins.

a curse by a goblin.
hence, a goblin's curse.

but it's a slow-acting curse.
hence, a slow goblin's curse.
that is to say, [slow [goblin's curse]], not [[slow goblin]'s curse]. like where are you getting this absolute certainty that "slow" is referring to the goblin who cast the curse and not to the concept of a goblin's curse that takes hold slowly lol

edit: last sentence comes off wrong, not trying to sound like i'm insulting you since you're not wrong in your logic, just your... reasoning? or vice-versa? like technically you're absolutely right, the descriptor "slow" can easily be referring to just the goblin, but that doesn't mean it can only refer to just the goblin. and logically since they're talking about a curse (cast upon them by a goblin!) which slowly and torturously transforms them, it's a bit odd to interpret that as them suddenly dropping the name of a new breed of goblin that nobody has ever heard of before or since, right? the certainty behind your interpretation feels like it's being read as a proper name (Slow Goblin's Curse), which just feels like the name of a hipster restaurant or something, lol. and in that situation I'd be the one sounding like i'm deliberately misenterpreting things if i insisted that "Fat Jim's Buffet" had to mean "Jim's buffet, but the walls are filled with cholesterol" instead of your correct inference that it's just a buffet run by some guy named Jim, who happens to be notably overweight compared to most other Jims you'd meet in the wild...

 

[BestBoy]

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that is to say, [slow [goblin's curse]], not [[slow goblin]'s curse]. like where are you getting this absolute certainty that "slow" is referring to the goblin who cast the curse and not to the concept of a goblin's curse that takes hold slowly lol

I was mostly making a joke about what seems like a poor translation and you've gone and taken it too seriously...

Regardless.

That's not how English works. "Slow" is an adjective modifying "goblin" and "goblin's" is a possessive noun modifying "curse." "Goblin's" cannot be an adjective describing "curse" because the only possessive adjectives are ones that have respective personal pronouns (his, her, my, etc) otherwise known as determiners.

Some examples:

I have a fat goblin's cup.
I have a skinny human's curse.

Fat and skinny both describe the quality of the one who owns the cup or curse.

Really, though, it's probably just a bad translation and we're dealing with the same issue as two chapters ago with "She's been captured by the goblin sand up ahead," and "This is the goblin sand's cave!"

In other words, it's probably not a slow goblin and it's probably not a slow curse. It's something else entirely that won't be fixed by the translator.

 

[S0LUS]

you've gone and taken it too seriously...

3-4AM timeframe aside, you broke my damn brain with that "why would something permanent be slow" comment before i could even begin to parse the tone and intent of what you wrote, so of course i took it too seriously lmao

also holy shit i just realized i misread basically the entire conversation because i was mentally still autocorrecting it to "slow goblin curse" (which at least would've made my argument less dumb and wrong if we pretend "goblin curse" was the noun phrase in question being modified by "slow" this whole time, haha i win)
idk how how i managed to ignore all of those apostrophes (especially as the one typing them, i feel like i just got caught writing something where every sentence somehow ended up along the lines of "dog's and gun's are cool" or some shit) so i'm absolutely blaming the translation for this bout of brain damage lol. i think the improvement from "goblin sand" was enough to make me willfully ignore anything less egregious out of sheer joy that reading stopped feeling like having a stroke

 

[BestBoy]

3-4AM timeframe aside

I am going to be hurting in 30 minutes when my workday starts. Bit of insomnia today.

I agree that "slow goblin curse" without the possessive portion would totally work. I'd like a comma in there, but I can live without it.

 

[S0LUS]

I am going to be hurting in 30 minutes when my workday starts. Bit of insomnia today.

best of luck to you, i guess i can't say i'm in the same boat because the cause and effect are flipped but i definitely empathize

I'd like a comma in there, but I can live without it.

i'd prefer a way to work parentheses in there somehow, it'd suit both my personal tastes and the quality of the tl