Onii-chan wa Oshimai! - Vol. 9 Ch. 81.8 - Non-Mahiro Special: Aoi-chan Edition

[YurushiteHyacinth]

parasite

Nah, that's the AI TLs.

 

[tarrasqueSorcerer]

There's nothing wrong with the word "trap". It's not a "transphobic slur" and it doesn't even refer to trans women. Dickheads using it as an insult is a dickhead problem, not a word problem.
Us weebs using it for cute anime boys online has especially nothing to do with real life hate, assault or alleged legal justifications.

 

[faaresemo]

oh this makes much more sense. there were a couple things that sounded a bit off on the MTL variant, and that's basically all fixed now, bless

 

[ReuReu75]

There's nothing wrong with the word "trap". It's not a "transphobic slur" and it doesn't even refer to trans women. Dickheads using it as an insult is a dickhead problem, not a word problem.
Us weebs using it for cute anime boys online has especially nothing to do with real life hate, assault or alleged legal justifications.

It's similar to how fools on Twitter, think "loli" is synonymous with "underage". They do nothing more, than to show their own ignorance, in the medium in which they engage.

 

[MangaRoxas]

I swear, the cutest mangas are a beacon for the most unhinged fuckwits.

Instead of furiously smashing your keyboard, crying as you violently defend your right to say trap,. you just... comply with a reasonable request and not use that particular word? You don't even need to scrub it from your lexicon, yell it to the heavens in your social circle if you must, but it's far more effort to be a piece of shit than it is to substitute a word. Or, you know, just be quiet.

 

[YurushiteHyacinth]

It's similar to how fools on Twitter, think "loli" is synonymous with "underage". They do nothing more, than to show their own ignorance, in the medium in which they engage.

Twitter is full of nazis who appropriate lolis to make homophobic memes and they're 10 times the tourists people who hate the word "trap" are, TFYM.

 

[kenwaynguyen]

I swear, the cutest mangas are a beacon for the most unhinged fuckwits.

Instead of furiously smashing your keyboard, crying as you violently defend your right to say trap,. you just... comply with a reasonable request and not use that particular word? You don't even need to scrub it from your lexicon, yell it to the heavens in your social circle if you must, but it's far more effort to be a piece of shit than it is to substitute a word. Or, you know, just be quiet.

no. the term "trap" has been around longer than you've been alive. stop the emotional blackmail.

 

[tarrasqueSorcerer]

I swear, the cutest mangas are a beacon for the most unhinged fuckwits.

Instead of furiously smashing your keyboard, crying as you violently defend your right to say trap,. you just... comply with a reasonable request and not use that particular word? You don't even need to scrub it from your lexicon, yell it to the heavens in your social circle if you must, but it's far more effort to be a piece of shit than it is to substitute a word. Or, you know, just be quiet.

"Don't use this word because I don't like it" is not a reasonable request. Especially when some people try to claim that "femboy" is also a slur and the whole concept of traps is transphobic.

 

[YurushiteHyacinth]

"Don't use this word because I don't like it" is not a reasonable request. Especially when some people try to claim that "femboy" is also a slur and the whole concept of traps is transphobic.

Nobody claimed either of those things here, way to fail reading comprehension champ.

 

[kenwaynguyen]

Haven't your parents come to pick you up yet?

you started the ad hominem attacks, not me.

 

[Shita-kiri_Suzume]

@YurushiteHyacinth @kenwaynguyen

All right, let's bring it back in over here, no need for petty insults.
Though, just for the record, appeals to basic empathy are not "emotional blackmail". And I'm pretty sure there are several people around here who were born before 2004 when the Star Wars meme came along.

 

[MidnighTea]

I mean I'm like 43, so yeah. I'm not a new face at all. I'm old enough to remember TV commercials for the original Super Mario Bros. 3

 

[kenwaynguyen]

@YurushiteHyacinth @kenwaynguyen

All right, let's bring it back in over here, no need for petty insults.
Though, just for the record, appeals to basic empathy are not "emotional blackmail". And I'm pretty sure there's several people around here who were born before 2004 when the Star Wars meme came along.

No, it is emotional blackmail.
You explained and forced your ideology onto others when you refer the term "trap" as "t-word", and commenting "Making sure idiots who stamp their feet demanding to keep using offensive words know they're not the whole fandom".
Your only role is to scanlate, not to moralize.
None of these conversations need to happen if you didn't comment on it.

 

[qwsfdgh]

Now non-AI translated and T-word free. Making sure idiots who stamp their feet demanding to keep using offensive words know they're not the whole fandom.
I'll get around to the other specials too, but I wanted to prioritize this one. For now, enjoy.

As I said to the other guy these are from chapters 73-81.5 so you've put them out of order by numbering them how you have, as Shiori says and you've translated this takes place before the first Minato book, I'd suggest numbering this one 81.8 and the one with Asahi 73.5 to keep continuity.

 

[Shita-kiri_Suzume]

No, it is emotional blackmail.
You explained and forced your ideology onto others when you refer the term "trap" as "t-word", and commenting "Making sure idiots who stamp their feet demanding to keep using offensive words know they're not the whole fandom".
Your only role is to scanlate, not to moralize.
None of these conversations need to happen if you didn't comment on it.

Okay, I was a little out of line, but respecting trans people's feeling is no "ideology", and it makes me a little upset when people cling to outdated words with negative baggage for no apparent good reason. At least I didn't just stick to complaining about and it and put my own TL effort where my mouth is.

As I said to the other guy these are from chapters 73-81.5 so you've put them out of order by numbering them how you have, as Shiori says and you've translated this takes place before the first Minato book, I'd suggest numbering this one 81.8 and the one with Asahi 73.5 to keep continuity.

Oh, duly noted.

 

[tarrasqueSorcerer]

Nobody claimed either of those things here, way to fail reading comprehension champ.

And I'm not claiming they did. I'm explaining why that demand can be easily seen as malicious rather than "please don't be mean" like roxas makes it out to be.

 

[kenwaynguyen]

Okay, I was a little out of line, but respecting trans people's feeling is no "ideology", and it makes me a little upset when people cling to outdated words with negative baggage for no apparent good reason. At least I didn't just stick to complaining about and it and put my own TL effort where my mouth is.



Oh, duly noted.

Look man, I appreciate your TL effort. It's good.
But no, the term 'trap' does not have a negative connotation nor baggage. It has always been used to describe a specific trope/character type. Nobody had any problems using it until very recently, when some trans activists who are not of the hobby decides that it's problematic.

 

[Shita-kiri_Suzume]

Look man, I appreciate your TL effort. It's good.
But no, the term 'trap' does not have a negative connotation nor baggage. It has always been used to describe a specific trope/character type. Nobody had any problems using it until very recently, when some trans activists who are not of the hobby decides that it's problematic.

They are no "activists", just normal people who read manga like you and are very much of the hobby. People who didn't suddenly come in to "ruin your fun" or what else, in fact they've been sharing fandoms with you for much longer than you realize, and probably didn't have the courage or words to express their feelings until recently. And the fact you continue to dismiss them out of hand even after you had them explained to you multiple times, even in this thread, is more on you than them.

 

[kenwaynguyen]

They are no "activists", just normal people who read manga like you and are very much of the hobby. People who didn't suddenly come in to "ruin your fun" or what else, in fact they've been sharing fandoms with you for much longer than you realize, and probably didn't have the courage or words to express their feelings until recently. And the fact you continue to dismiss them out of hand even after you had them explained to you multiple times, even in this thread, is more on you than them.

There are activists. Either you're blind, or you're lying.

I'm leaning more towards you're lying.

 

[Shita-kiri_Suzume]

There are activists. Either you're blind, or you're lying.

Assuming that is true, what is the point of their activism? What longterm goals do you think they are pursuing by pushing against the use of certain words?