Shishunki Bitter Change - Vol. 9 Ch. 65 - Epilogue + Extra

[eriere]

why are their kids literally copies of themselves lol

 

[YellowVortex]

Honestly still can't get over how Yui suddenly loves Yuuta out of nowhere. Almost never seemed like she really cared about him. Although I don't really like her she would have been fine the way she was loving Kazuya. Honestly prefer the Wn ending, but overall still a good read. Brought the story down from a 9.5 to a 7.5


@Ryou Bro I loved those don't worry. Funny af

 

[Aoitenshi]

Honestly still can't get over how Yui suddenly loves Yuuta out of nowhere. Almost never seemed like she really cared about him. Although I don't really like her she would have been fine the way she was loving Kazuya. Honestly prefer the Wn ending, but overall still a good read. Brought the story down from a 9.5 to a 7.5


@Ryou Bro I loved those don't worry. Funny af

I only read the manga, and I think it's a trope where two childhood friends liked each other and everyone already knew it except for the couple in question. The way it was played in the climax was: since Yuuta already realized his feelings himself, Kazuma went all-in by confessing to Yui in order to make her realize who she loves more, Yuuta or Kazuma. And she chose Yuuta.

 

[Krynh]

Hey mods. Comments about what happened in an alternate version of the manga before it was published are not spoilers. Seeing as this is the end of the series no-one reading the thread for the end of the manga is going to be spoiled.

 

[DuckMedic]

Now that I think about it, would this be considered selfcest?

 

[Ultraninja]

Tbh, i think the two switching back is pretty ambiguous. Theres a good amount of arguments both sides, the 64 boyfriend thing isnt as solid as everyone thinks it is, it could also be translated as "youre not honest with your boyfriend". I think they still switched to their switched bodies as yui still acts out going and yuuta is more reserved. I still prefer if they got back into their original bodies as it fits the story better in my eyes, but honestly, just interpret it how you want, not an exact wrong answer here

 

[Julian117]

Anyone who believes that they switched back, you can clearly see that the mother is more desensitized from the children crying. She doesn't run there an try to comfort the kids. The father is the one that bends down and emotionally connects with the kids.

That kind of tells me that they didn't switch back and that they accepted their fate and their roles.

It is a bit strange because the this opens up a whole can of questions about feelings and gender like: can you just be trained to love whatever?

Society definitely taught us that humans aren't that maluable.

So take this as the happy ending of a manga who tried to challenge the gender bender stereotypes but ended up becoming another stereotype for the sake of fictional response.

 

[Paragon]

honestly this story is interesting a body swap story that took the concept seriously and explored it well. There were ups and downs but it is legit one of the best stories that I read.

 

[ahmed4363]

The ending is a flop. They should've switched back to normal and stayed that way. Yui really doesn't seem to like staying as Yuuta (although it doesn't seem Yuuta minds it as much as her)
The story was great though.

 

[AyamKencing]

absolute cinema now it's 10/10👏🏻👏🏻 applause for Yuuta able to pop out those two little kids🤣

 

[ArchivistAlex98]

There really is nowhere near enough set up of Yui accepting being in a male body for me to actually fully believe that them staying swapped would lead to a fully happy ending. She still very much disliked being in that body until the very end and her being okay enough in it to just end up as a happy family man.

Girl had buckets of dysphoria that were never addressed even slightly.

 

[tinreadsmangas]

There really is nowhere near enough set up of Yui accepting being in a male body for me to actually fully believe that them staying swapped would lead to a fully happy ending. She still very much disliked being in that body until the very end and her being okay enough in it to just end up as a happy family man.

Girl had buckets of dysphoria that were never addressed even slightly.

She wished for Yuuta to be ok at the cost of being a man, so it was her love for Yuuta that made her accepting being a man.

 

[ArchivistAlex98]

She wished for Yuuta to be ok at the cost of being a man, so it was her love for Yuuta that made her accepting being a man.

Not how people work considering Yui has been totally not okay for like years over the course of the story with no sign they're even really slightly compatible with living as a male like she still gets referred to as a woman and actively laments being a girl despite not having been one for a decade at least.

Nothing points to her being okay with life as a male so I just personally reject the notion anything would make her okay with it. She yearns for something she realistically doesn't even understand because she stopped being a girl before any meaningful physical or social differences manifested yet still that desire exists. She's basically trans in reverse where she was exactly what she was supposed to be and was forced to be something else while knowing she didn't want this new thing for years and the story just decides she's over years of angst and a clear discomfort for being male with the snap of a finger

If you're not comfortable identifying and living as the gender you've lived as for years you're not going to be comfortable living as and identifying as that gender ever and your partner being okay and healthy specifically because you forced yourself back into that situation isn't going to change that. Something good happening because you put yourself back into a situation you hate/dislike won't suddenly make you like it or be okay with it.

Yuuta is believable in a sense that Yui isn't. I could believe Yuuta is totally fine as a woman but can't really ever believe Yui is comfortable as a man

 

[mangaislifeschool]

Spoiler

@pibata They don't switch back, and Yui commits suicide in Yuuta's body because she can't come to terms with having to live as a guy (possibly due to having a crush on kazuma).

honestly I think that ending was better.

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yeah better than this cop-out