Kase-san Series - Ch. 48 - (Yamada and Kase-san) Graduation album and Kase-san

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I need a fucking backstory of them meeting in grade school. In an unusual park for both of them, some cousin or some shit that brought them together for a few hours while their parents were doing their own thing. You know, those friends we make for a couple of hours when on holidays or visiting relatives. Anyway, I need more chibi Kase and chibi Kanade.

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same about the numbering. i have an old envelope that i wrote the md chapter no.s and the actual chapter no.s. it's insane.

very cute chapter.
 
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Which genius merged the two series? Kase-san And Yamada is a clear sequel of the original series, just like Rosario Vampire season I and II are two separate series. Just fucking look at the Japanese covers. Kase-san And Yamada starts with volume 1, not 6. Has anyone contacted the mods to reverse this braindead move?
 
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Heart-warming fluff is what this series is about, no need for dramas.
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Daaaawwww, that last page is so cute. That's the kind of stuff I read this manga for.
 
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I can always trust this series to give me fluff. That last page was so cute.
 
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Merging and mixing the chapters... :facepalm:
Thanks for the scans. The merging thing is dumb - is there a good way to appeal to the staff about it?
Which genius merged the two series? Kase-san And Yamada is a clear sequel of the original series, just like Rosario Vampire season I and II are two separate series. Just fucking look at the Japanese covers. Kase-san And Yamada starts with volume 1, not 6. Has anyone contacted the mods to reverse this braindead move?
You are all wrong actually. It is one singular, continuous series with multiple arcs, the Kase-san Series.
Everything reflects this, including official materials, retailers, Seven Seas, Wikipedia. No-one in Japan thinks of this as multiple serieses. All of the chapters being on one page is simply correct.

As for the issue of the chapter numbering, many serieses have inconsistencies between their magazine chapter numbering and their volume chapter numbering. In general, MangaDex prefers to follow the volume numbering. The thing is: the Kase-san Series completely removes chapter numbers for its volumes, as well as moving some chapters around (including punting 2 to a doujinshi). What you have to understand is: the magazine chapter numbering was never going to be respected because it does not align with the volumes. So, once you're looking at the chapter-number-less volume chapters, it only makes sense to apply MangaDex's default preference of continuous chapter numbering. That's why the page is how it is. @Valuz could contribute by tagging the volumes at the very least, if not aligning the numbering, but they choose not to, so others have to.
 
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You are all wrong actually. It is one singular, continuous series with multiple arcs, the Kase-san Series.
Everything reflects this, including official materials, retailers, Seven Seas, Wikipedia. No-one in Japan thinks of this as multiple serieses. All of the chapters being on one page is simply correct.

As for the issue of the chapter numbering, many serieses have inconsistencies between their magazine chapter numbering and their volume chapter numbering. In general, MangaDex prefers to follow the volume numbering. The thing is: the Kase-san Series completely removes chapter numbers for its volumes, as well as moving some chapters around (including punting 2 to a doujinshi). What you have to understand is: the magazine chapter numbering was never going to be respected because it does not align with the volumes. So, once you're looking at the chapter-number-less volume chapters, it only makes sense to apply MangaDex's default preference of continuous chapter numbering. That's why the page is how it is. @Valuz could contribute by tagging the volumes at the very least, if not aligning the numbering, but they choose not to, so others have to.
It's nice and all but now anyone who starts reading will be lost
 
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You are all wrong actually. It is one singular, continuous series with multiple arcs, the Kase-san Series.
Everything reflects this, including official materials, retailers, Seven Seas, Wikipedia. No-one in Japan thinks of this as multiple serieses. All of the chapters being on one page is simply correct.

Are you missing the point on purpose? This is not about how the series is defined in general terms, or how anyone think about it, but about organization of the manga chapters on this specific site, an aggregate online reader. It makes sense for an encyclopedia like Wikipedia to include everything about Kase-san, including the OVA, in a single article (btw the English version does mentions that "Yamada And Kase-san" is a sequel). Same thing goes for Seven Seas because they sell the manga by the book, and they don't need to worry about people accessing chapters in the correct order. And of course a tweet promoting the series will tell people to buy the whole thing at once (did you expect them to clarifiy "you might buy the sequel later" or what?) It's asinine to just mindlessly copy how a series are presented on other sites (which have completely different functions and purposes from an online reader), without considering how it serves the intended users. The Ancient Magus Bride page on Seven Seas site also include the guidebooks, but we have them as a seperate entry here. Myanimelist lists each season of an anime separately regardless if all the episodes are on the same page of a streaming site.

And you're also wrong that treating Kase-san as two distinct halves is not officially supported. The publisher made a conscious decision to change the title from "Kase-san and..." to "Yamada and Kase-san", and restart it from volume 1 to boot. Manga don't start over with volume 1 just because of a new arc. They could have retrosprectively numberred the first five volumes and made the new book volume 6, but they decided not to. At the very least, this is the publisher telling everyone it's okay to treat "Yamada And Kase-san" as a new starting point, if not a downright sequel. You seem to think that "Yamada And Kase-san" can't be a sequel because it's a continuous story , but the defintion of a sequel is literally "a work that continues the story of an earlier one." JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is one continous story that everyone reads in parts. Even if you only count the series which keep the same cast, there are Rosario+Vampire Season 2 and Citrus+. They are all set up as separate entries on all aggregators out there (including this one) though you can technically claim that they would work as a single story. Narratively speaking, there is a clean break between Kase-san and Yamada to Kase-san, which justifies they being listed separately.

As for the issue of the chapter numbering, many serieses have inconsistencies between their magazine chapter numbering and their volume chapter numbering. In general, MangaDex prefers to follow the volume numbering. The thing is: the Kase-san Series completely removes chapter numbers for its volumes, as well as moving some chapters around (including punting 2 to a doujinshi). What you have to understand is: the magazine chapter numbering was never going to be respected because it does not align with the volumes. So, once you're looking at the chapter-number-less volume chapters, it only makes sense to apply MangaDex's default preference of continuous chapter numbering.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that what we had before was absolutely fine for following the series. Sure, the lack of of official numbering in Kase-san makes it hard for the scanned chapters to perfectly align with the official version, but it's not the first time it happens with scanlations. Scanlators have to invent chapter numbers all the time to insert bonus chapters (which usually don't have numbering) in the right place. It's also common for the volume version of a series to have minor differences from its magazine version. Reading scanlations is not the same as reading the published books, that's why people are encouraged to buy official releases if they can.

But just because something is not perfect, doesn't mean we should blow it up. "Well, a couple of chapters don't really match up, so no harm in messing the whole thing up"? Give me a break. This is a decade old scanlation we're talking about. "Kase-san and Yamada" started nearly 10 years ago, and people haven't had a problem following it as a sequel, including the ones who started the series late. Thousands of readers around the world were used to how the chapters were numbered before, and they are the ones this site is for. If you could travel back in time to convince the scanlators to translate the series the way you like, then sure, go for it. Whatever the benefit that comes with merging the two entries so late in the game (there is none) doesn't justify creating a confusing mess for readers, old and new alike.

That's why the page is how it is. @Valuz could contribute by tagging the volumes at the very least, if not aligning the numbering, but they choose not to, so others have to.

I wasn't going to respond until I read this part. What kind of backward logic is this? You don't fuck up something then blame people for not cleaning up your mess. If you want to make significant changes that require other people's help to work, you reach out to them beforehand and get them on the same page before pushing the button. You don't just break something then leave the result for someone else to fix. It's not only irresponsible but also rude and entitled as hell.

The bottom line is this: We didn't have a problem with how the Kase-san series were on MD before. Now it just sucks for no apparent benefit. Whoever made this moronic change did a disservice to the readers on this site. Good job ruining a good thing.
 
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