Madogiwa Henshuu to Baka ni Sareta Ore ga, Futago JK to Doukyo suru Koto ni Natta - Ch. 13

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Oooooh, yeeees... that's exactly the kind of karma I'm here for :kreygasm:especially when, just like the bitchy ex, she actually tried to turn herself into the victim too !!

CONSEQUENCES, BITCH !!! ENJOY THEM !!!

Don't feel sorry for her, she doesn't deserve it! You'll see soon enough why...

THERE'S MORE REASON TO ENJOY HER SUFFERING !? DETAILS PLZ !!!

It's just a more powerful figure exercising their complete control over others which really just sends the message that the only way to get ahead in life is to be best friends with the secret organization running the world.

I mean, if you wanna actually boil it down in less extreme terms : YES, having the right connections in life can be extremely beneficial to you but it still needs to be built on solid grounds and mutual respect.

From the start, Okaya treated Ryuko like a proper author, completey ignoring her upbringing and genuinely bonded with her, as her own person, to the point she doesn't even care who's publishing her books as long he's the one in charge of it.

Meanwhile, Fuckboi showed that to him, the second a relationship gave him what he wants, he just throws it away : he's literally all take and no give. Clearly acting as a foil to MC who value every connection he has, no matter how small or big.
 
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THERE'S MORE REASON TO ENJOY HER SUFFERING !? DETAILS PLZ !!!
I wrote it on the last page:
So i guess some of you don't know the full spoilers, well i'm also to blame here since i wrote most of them and skipped some parts to save time... Anyway, the reason non of them deserve any forgiveness is that they don't learn from these first consequences (divorce and getting fired). All 3 of them double down on being stupid (even tho Grandpa warned them), and try to ruin MC so they can get something out of it. If i remember correctly they stalk him and try to blackmail him for underage sex with the twins (which doesn't happen trough the whole story btw)...
This is just a short explanation. They are pure trash and at the end of the story no one will feel sorry for any one of them, i'm sure of that...
 
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I wrote it on the last page:

This is just a short explanation. They are pure trash and at the end of the story no one will feel sorry for any one of them, i'm sure of that...

Oh, boy !! The "Don't know when to quit" type !! Those are even funnier to watch crumble because they actually had a chance to walk away with less but instead choose to double down and end up with nothing !!
 
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MC had a fault in what happened, he let others walk on him, sacrificied his own personal time destroying his marriage and didn't report the kouhai as incompetent and instead run to fix every problem he caused and never said anything at how he simply didn't learn the job.
If he at least reported the kouhai the office could have done soemthing about it, maybe changed who instructed him, and no matter who it was they would have noticed he is dead weight, if it was a male editor they would have reported the same story as MC, probably even faster, if it was female she would have likely been tricke dlike the office head, and her results falling would have proven something is going wrongly.
Of course the story had to go like this, and it was important to make MC stop holding back, but he was in part guilty of what happened,
the wife cheating was her own decision, the office bastard was using a aphrodisiac on the womens he flirted but we have seen her personality, not a good person and had to get very close to get drugged
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I mean they do show his ex wife was pretty TERRIBLE even before and DURING the marriage. The cheating should have been seen coming a mile away. It's why she came crawling back DESPITE divorce (In the "good ole days/LOL NOT" Divorce use to be something Permenant! Now that you can just REMARRY. Some fools see Divorce like it's "breaking up temporarly" despite the expensiveness OF the whole thing! No wonder we have so many Divorce Lawyers now a days since this rose so heavily!) because she thinks HE needs her, as long as she "apologizes" (Half Heareted) then

If I remember
Didn't he have another girl that "let him go" when he chose the stupid future Ex back in the day, but will show up later wishing to "get him" since she didn't get over him, and now that Ex screwed herself by divorcing him, she's now FREE to pursue him

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I really wish there was no HAREM! And frankly this feels LESSER then another series somewhat similar to this one "Jinsei Gyakuten - Uwaki Sare Enzai wo Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni Natsukareru" which also went abit overboard in the LATTER part of the story! I like that one because the protagonist DIDN'T have a Harem like in this one! Really wish the Girls remained having a crush on him and wanting to help him and only the "Girl I mentioned from his past" is the Heroine he gets with! No Harem!

And another thing is I really feel the Karma for the Three Stooges is abit extreme! Hate em, but I would have prefered if the old Company MC was with was semi-competent and it was just his old Editor who was incompetent and made life MISERABLE! Like the other editors were good, and with her, she was one of THOSE type of losers! The Girl who wanted to PROVE she was as good as the guys, but then ONE "Fuxkboi she should have distrusted, but didn't" later and she becomes a stupid woman ruled by her groin that once SMART decisions she made, are now made DUMB because of "following it" At least it would make her downfall more well deserved, she didn't get tricked, and as said, if her backstory was that she never had a man before, that would make her even MORE pathetic, she got far so well, just to RISK IT ALL on some fuxkboi who has proven on the spot that he isn't a serious worker, but she let one dicking convince her to risk HER OWN HARD WORK for him.....and it blows up in her face because turns out the MC was "the guy who knew the codes" and turns out putting someone who thinks with his dick that she KNEW thinks with his dick in charge of a "FEMALE" author under them was prehaps the DUMBEST idea (not that she didn't thinks so, since she idiotically assumed he LOVED HER and DIDN'T fuck her for the sake of having a SUPERIOR under his thrall because again "background of a girl who never thought about sex till she took an idiotic chance with someone who is an EMPLOYEE which should have been an ALERT for someone like her who focused on a career, but she let her groin talk for her

As for Ex, it's hard to see MC as he is and yet he DIDN'T see her for how horrid she is! Would have been better to show that she DID have "good moments" that lulled him into ignoring her FLAWS till Marriage brought them up because he worked alot and she said NOTHING or little that he didn't KNOW what she wanted since she expected him to MIND READ HER LAZY ASS!

I mean Jinsei did it Better with Miyuki, who was MADE in mind to be a NTR Heroine in that she was the LEAST LIKELY to get stolen, yet still she was because she had a lapse in judgement that WAS THERE in her life, but was well hidden from even her STBX that she never realized it till she did the stupid thing that wrecked her life and only AFTER it wrecks her life and relationships just to learn it REALLY WASN'T WORTH IT IN THE END! At least BEFORE the reveal in CH 1, she didn't seem the type to cheat and her relationship was PERFECT! Till after Ch 1 where like the MC of the story Eiji Aono mother, you start to wonder WHAT he ever saw in her! For a Smart Girl, she was SUPER STUPID (in a way, this is what I was conveying with the Editor, someone who LOOKED like she'd NOT fall for an OBVIOUS fuxkboi like the Junior.....yet she did and wrecked her career she wasted much of her youth and such pursuing FOR NOTHING.

No need to make Ex here like Miyuki, but at least make her make more SENSE on why MC was foolish enough to think she was WIFE MATERIAL and then have him lose MORE RESPECT for her as now that the MASK fell off and he thanks to the girls got his self respect back, "starts to question WHAT he saw in her to date her, much less MARRY HER!" (With the other girl from his past, getting with her would have SOME regret on his end as it would her as with her she SAW his ex for how crappy she was, but never told him because she loved him and wanted to respect his decision, and regrets it after how he admits how crappy things got leading to her cheating and divorcing him! He DID see the flaws in her, but clung to her SMALL POSITIVES that did NOT excuse the negatives that YES it is his fault, but make it "man in love mixed with Sunk Cost Fallacy" that was BROKEN both from catching her cheating, being BLAMED for the cheating by her, and the divorce! Which lucky for him, she wanted out QUICKLY to run to her "lover" that she didn't take anything MAJOR from him, wanting to FORGET MC as fast as possible....which she regrets later once it was clear his Fuxkboi Junior only BED HER as a FLEX towards MC, once that was done, he had NO INTEREST IN EVER MAKING HER HIS WOMAN! Basically she treated a cheating one night stand like it meant anything more like a loser! Hence screwing herself, ESPECIALLY as her family DISOWNED HER once they found out the REASON of the Divorce. Yet she doesn't learn her lesson

And someone else said it best, the Drug angle makes the two women into VICTIMS abit since they were drugged unknowingly. I would have just gone with him getting expensive ass drugs for HIMSELF. It makes THEM look more foolish for letting sex ruin themselves, makes him a BIGGER LOSER for assuming he was bigger then he was when it was the drugs, AND can add a side effect, namely he would have to KEEP using the drugs and it would EFFECT his manhood negatively AND cause him to become impotent and a PE if you 'know what that means" but still keep a sex drive! And he was made aware of it, he just didn't Care assuming he'd sex his way to the top and could always get more, only his firing ruined that and he FORGOT till it became relevant again. Just as he FORGOT that stealing his seniors accomplishments and then getting him fired unjust was ALSO idiocy on his end, but again, with the drug thing, he lied so much that even HE started believing his own damn lies! Screwing himself over later

And I would like MC to at least ACKNOWLEDGE his own fault in many of his own misfortunes, YES Fuxkboi and his duo idiot bimbos had a hand in it, but they only DID cause he made it that much easier for them to do so! His getting better is a mix of the girls helping him AND him acknowledging what he did wrong, like the new workplace and realizing HE made life hard for himself at his old place because of his own flaws, but now FREE of them now that he knows better, he isn't making excuses anymore for himself, OR those who wronged him. His "beatdowns" on each of them, like this chapter to his EX Superior is the best cause it's HIM calling them out on the obvious! Like with the Editor, that line cutting her off from excuses, as she did to him was good in my opinion! She didn't think much of him as she was also thinking with her groin, and now that it blew up in her face, coming to him, disrupting his life when after firing him, she had ZERO RIGHT TO CONTACT HIM AGAIN to beg him to "come back" with it OBVIOUSLY because it's meant for HER advantage then it is his! He can only shake his head, especially if he KNEW she once WAS respectable till she stupidly risked it all gambling on the fuxkboi! Best part would be the Drug thing I mentioned, they did have sex WITHOUT THE DRUG INVOLVED and she got to realize he was NOTHING like she remembered he was, and finally paid attention, bonus if the box for the drug with instructions was in his stuff and she finds it, becomign MORE ENRANGED since it means that "god like sex" she risked her career and self-respect over was "dope induced" and he was average in everway! He just realized too late that he didn't have more and assumed he HAD HER already so it wouldn't be any different...whcih o[ course he WASN'T and it WAS noticed, I mean the Enrage comes AFTER confusion on her end with how unimpressive he was!

Actually don't make the drugs expensive, make them experimental and he was given a certain amount of them and a warning, which he didn't listen to and it got him his HAREM, but by the time he realized his FOLLY in over using them, the company that gave him it fell under and the side effects get to him, ESPECIALLY as said, if he HAD followed instructions properly, he would have HAD A CHANCE of not fucking himself over with the side effects, but cause he didn't. Well you know already what I said! It would be a Fitting, he brought it on himself WITHOUT leaving room for the two bimbos having ANY REASON FOR ANYONE TO FEEL SORRY FOR THEM! As I hate how some are FALLING for their "I'm sorry" when it's obvious if the consequences never hit, they would NEVER be sorry for what they did to MC! And I wonder if the pity for them remain when they choose to DISRUPT MC life anyway because they can't take "NO LEAVE ME ALONE" as a valid answer! /SPOILER]

Sorry in advance if the Spoiler section was a HUGE WALL! I just felt CREATIVE when typing it :)
 
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Jesus, this really is just some mangaka's power fantasy.
Honestly, I find it a lesser version of "Jinsei Gyakuten - Uwaki Sare Enzai wo Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni Natsukareru!"

At least with that one other then "a few things" it stayed GROUNDED IN SOME REALITY
The Harem aspect ruined this one abit, at least in Jinsei, Eiji, the Main Character only ended up with ONE GIRL, he did have SOME Harem aspect to him in that alot of girls who did get to know him liked him like this protagonist. But he stays with one! And at least the one to AVENGE HIM isn't a RICH OLD POWERFUL MAN but instead "His Sempai, A Nerd with ALOT OF RAGE towards his tormentors for messing with his Kouhai!" Not rich either, the guy basically destroys them all by playing them against each other and taking advantage of their LACK OF BEING AWARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS! AKA Cheaters remain in their own little world that they never take into mind that OTHERS who DO KNOW THEM might catch them in the act when their suppose to be keeping it HIDDEN! And in the Sempai's case, taking "pictures" of their fucked up activates and then showing them to the cops since their MINORS or to the relevant parties among them as fuxkboi's HAREM is only strong cause they aren't fully aware he's shamelessly CHEATING on them, abit hypocritical on the FORMER Heroine he stole that she's mad he CHEATED ON HER when SHE cheated on the MC with him, he even was nice enough to REMIND HER OF THAT when she had the nerve to get upset once caught! Like she expected a shameless bastard who propositioned her to cheat on the MC to feel ANYTHING but lust for her dumb easy ass!

Take note unless the Manga Writer goes different from the Novel. You're going to SEE how "Right you are about POWER FANTASY" LOL
 
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it's not sympathy. We're just acknowledging that someone is bad while not thinking that any random punishment is appropriate. What does being launched into space to starve even have to do with any of this? It's a common problem with zama where their comeuppance ends up being disconnected from what happened or misses the actual point of what they did wrong. The fact that she was making these decisions because he was secretly drugging her also makes this annoyingly muddy.

Getting fired is a given for her incompetence, but then there's also the stigma of MC having his reputation trashed by being framed for cheating. Then doubled down by accusing MC of abandoning her by not returning to save the arse of the person that fired him.
In your opinion Meridis, what would be the appropriate Editor punishment to provide karmic balance for her unremorseful REPEAT transgressions? :unsure:
I don't think only firing her balances the scales.
 
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MC had a fault in what happened, he let others walk on him, sacrificied his own personal time destroying his marriage and didn't report the kouhai as incompetent and instead run to fix every problem he caused and never said anything at how he simply didn't learn the job.
If he at least reported the kouhai the office could have done soemthing about it, maybe changed who instructed him, and no matter who it was they would have noticed he is dead weight, if it was a male editor they would have reported the same story as MC, probably even faster, if it was female she would have likely been tricke dlike the office head, and her results falling would have proven something is going wrongly.
Of course the story had to go like this, and it was important to make MC stop holding back, but he was in part guilty of what happened,
the wife cheating was her own decision, the office bastard was using a aphrodisiac on the womens he flirted but we have seen her personality, not a good person and had to get very close to get drugged
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There's a partial validity to some of your points, but it's more than outweighed by the MC having a boss whose job description is to make sure that none of the above happens to her subordinates. Blaming MC for failing to clean up the Editor's mess is pretty unreasonable. MC wasn't a new hire - all of this drama and a significant time before that being unappreciated went down on HER watch.
He got fired unfairly, and yet she CONTINUED to trash his reputation afterwards. What do you think HER punishment should be?
 
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I'll be the first one to say I don't having a normal empathy function in my brain. She fucked around and now she's finding out. I'll never feel sorry for morons who think they're more than just morons.
 
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There's a partial validity to some of your points, but it's more than outweighed by the MC having a boss whose job description is to make sure that none of the above happens to her subordinates. Blaming MC for failing to clean up the Editor's mess is pretty unreasonable. MC wasn't a new hire - all of this drama and a significant time before that being unappreciated went down on HER watch.
He got fired unfairly, and yet she CONTINUED to trash his reputation afterwards. What do you think HER punishment should be?
Fired fairly, instead they kept her going for way more than it should have been, a stupid decision even for a JP company that wants to keep a low firign rate as her actions were the ones that caused the company to go down.

I still don't really understand the second chapter with her asking MC to leave the label and then him quitting the company, isn't the same thing? Or she wanted him to leave their office/building but continue to do the same job in another office with a lower pay? A weirdly shaped demotion.
She wa sin a panic when MC took and left so I presume she wanted him to continue the job but in a different way that didn't affect the office, it was weird if we count how everybody thought he was useless.
 
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Fired fairly, instead they kept her going for way more than it should have been, a stupid decision even for a JP company that wants to keep a low firign rate as her actions were the ones that caused the company to go down.

There's zero remorse from her at all. MC got fired by her and had his reputation trashed by her - she needs a significantly harsher punishment than just being fired herself. Clear cut case of FAFO.
 
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She's the only one I feel a little bad for since her crime is just being a bad boss. She does deserve some punishment but not nearly at the level of what's going to come for her if they do stick to those spoilers from the LN
Yeah I checked out the spoilers and her comeuppance is a little bit more extreme than I would like
 
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Yeah I checked out the spoilers and her comeuppance is a little bit more extreme than I would like

Did you also check out that her FUTURE transgressions are also extreme?
Tried to frame MC for having underage sex with the two girls when it never happened, and even tried to blackmail him.

When bad people double and triple down on FAFO, then the finding out obviously gets worse. Shrug.
 
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yup, payback is a bitch
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There's zero remorse from her at all. MC got fired by her and had his reputation trashed by her - she needs a significantly harsher punishment than just being fired herself. Clear cut case of FAFO.
I assure you, she will get a much harsher punishment, absurdly so.

I forgot the details because I read the novel spoilers several months ago and it was just to know the karma of the assholes in this story, near the end of it she tried to do something to MC, I think it was spying on him and his relationship and wanted to blackmail or spread how he was living with schoolgirls, MC is under protection thoguh and she is stopped, kidnapped and punished from the wealthy granpa for messing around with the man his nephew loves, she is put in a rocket and shot in space, the official reason given is research on the ability of the pod she is in to make a human survive but there is no re-entry plan, the operation details aren't public and she is left to die in the pod, I think for around a month.
When she wasn't a good character I thought the punishment was even a bit excessive, as the other bad people in the story weren't outright given a death sentence
 
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Getting fired is a given for her incompetence, but then there's also the stigma of MC having his reputation trashed by being framed for cheating. Then doubled down by accusing MC of abandoning her by not returning to save the arse of the person that fired him.
In your opinion Meridis, what would be the appropriate Editor punishment to provide karmic balance for her unremorseful REPEAT transgressions? :unsure:
I don't think only firing her balances the scales.
It's fine so far. I would add that, if it actually got out that she fired him for supposed cheating, then it would be necessary to spread that she's a liar and philanderer who was sleeping with the guy who's supposed to be in a relationship with the woman she accused the mc of cheating with. Basically, ruin her as a source on any supposed bad deeds of the mc and hit her reputation, not just quietly ban her.

However, keep in mind that what's happened so far and what you mentioned isn't what we are saying feels excessive or inappropriate. We're talking about things from the spoilers, which get to be over the top.

I will say that, from a personal standpoint, I don't like that later reveal about how he got the boss and the ex to fall for him. Since you can't drug someone into consent, this could be considered date rape and their responsibility for what they did due to him secretly chemically altering their perception is questionable if it exists at all. Adding this only serves to let the author make a joke about him having a small penis while making the girls pretty much just victims being punish because someone slipped something in their drinks. I hope that gets edited out, as even simple punishments would be excessive with it.
 
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Woman in love is really blind and easy to be swayed around. Its need that big of shock just to made they realised how fucked up the situation they in.
 

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