Mob Shisai dakedo, Kono Sekai ga Otome Game dato Kizuita node Heroine wo Ikusei Shimasu - Ch. 14 - Almost a Year

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What are you on about, he is a reincarnator who was reborn as a child in this one. So the different cultures angle doesn't fly here.



And while I'll acknowledge girls inhabit the interwebs, I doubt you are one of them. Boys act very different as adolescents then girls.

And no, just because they play house with dolls or pretend as adults with a family, that in no way means an adult should start asking leading questions or teasing a child with such questions. Sure there might be some situations where there is an obvious unhealthy obsession that needs to be addressed, but not after the first time they interacting with a new group...
I'm not talking about different culture, I'm taking about it literally being an otome game world that he has some knowledge about, story wise, even if he has interfered. Keeping tabs on how it's progressing makes perfect sense. He even said literally that he thought it might have been an event.

And good for you avoiding such teasing/comments, basically everyone I know had it done to them, boy or girl, since kindergarten or even earlier... It was one of the primary reasons why boys and girls didn't play together almost ever, unless organized somehow. Even if the adults didn't do it, the children already internalized teasing about it by early elementary.

Didn't realize I'd said anything implying my gender...
 
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I don't think these are rigorously defined terms with a widely recognized distinction. Whatever the distinction is to you, I am not using that distinction.
English dictionary and common ise saying for the better part of a century.... sure thing my dud, you do you...
Well, since I have no idea who you are, that comes off rather creepily personal. Regardless, it's better to respond to what someone actually said, rather than imagining what they might have said based on your impression of them.
LawL scroll up or follow the convenient button in the quoted text. This is like the third set of comments we've traded in this very thread over the last 24 hours... but I guess zoomers have worse memories then a Gen X. Oh the irony. xD
 
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I'm not talking about different culture, I'm taking about it literally being an otome game world that he has some knowledge about, story wise, even if he has interfered. Keeping tabs on how it's progressing makes perfect sense. He even said literally that he thought it might have been an event.
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No... just no... you don't ask a adolescent child of any race or gender leading questions about another child they've known for all of a few hours. One they are ignorant of what those questions even mean, and two by doing so you place an expectation on them they are not ready to intellectually comprehend or deal with.

As for his game knowledge, it's completely useless till Reina moves to the academy. So any relationships in this town would be solely childhood friend territory. Well other then her fixation on the MC, but that is purely the author's perogative.
And good for you avoiding such teasing/comments, basically everyone I know had it done to them, boy or girl, since kindergarten or even earlier... It was one of the primary reasons why boys and girls didn't play together almost ever, unless organized somehow. Even if the adults didn't do it, the children already internalized teasing about it by early elementary.
Yeah, got nothing good to say so will just leave it at that.
Didn't realize I'd said anything implying my gender...
M8, it's called contextual clues. You are on a male dominated manga forums arguing about a priest asking a little girl about if she fell in love with another child she met just hours before.

While I know that there are female member in our community and can't say for 100% you're teenaged male, your commentary doesn't sound like either of my daughters or their female cousins, or any of their girlfriends. You do however sound like some of the nephews... so read into that that however you want.
 
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And he is still a proper priest, but seriously:

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(the manga is not even trying to hide it)
To be fair, he's not the one who initiated it. Though if this ever get an anime adaptation, this would surely be criticized to hell
 
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Her stare was pretty funny.

While I get it's for the bit and possibly more, I really don't think this level of codependence is good for her either. Like...she's not really becoming a whole and complete participant of society like this.

Inevitably, he's going to die before her, so she needs to be able to live without emotionally depending on him. Or at least not have what seems to be complete disinterest in anything unrelated to him.
 
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People always bring up Usagi Drop in situations like this, but its memetic qualities have spread so far that I feel like it's rare for people to even know what the whole drama with Usagi Drop actually was. I'm sure you didn't mean much by mentioning it but I think Usagi Drop really belongs in its own category of manga like Gal Cleaning which pissed off all the readers with its own drastic tonal shift. Bringing UD up whenever incest is mentioned kinda dilutes what made it such a big deal in the first place.

There's room in the heightened escapist fantasy space of fictional manga for non-blood-related incest plots, where all questions of problematic power dynamics and grooming and age gaps are brushed aside with the assurance that it was destined to happen and the parental figure has no ill intent and it's a true authentic love or whatever the fuck the justifications may be. There's even room for actual blood-related incest with actual malicious grooming. Most readers will find that disgusting, and rightfully so, but people can write whatever fiction they want and the onus is on the reader to choose what they consume and stop reading things that they obviously aren't going to like.

What made Usagi Drop so upsetting to so many was that it spent the entire first half of the story being purely about Daikichi learning to be a dad, almost no hints that it could be going in any other direction, with Rin's romantic feelings being extremely subtle if they even existed at all. Most readers were already committed to what they saw as a pure story about family by the halfway point where suddenly everything shifts and it's about a high school girl crushing on her father figure. And then, out of nowhere, comes what feels like the asspull of them not being blood related. Surprise!

Even then, people who were familiar with josei manga tropes saw it coming from miles away, another part of why Usagi Drop had so much impact was because it reached far beyond its intended demographic. Plus, despite the not-blood-related asspull, Daikichi was never her dad in the first place, he was taking care of who he thought was his grandpa's kid, so they thought they were blood related but he was never her actual father. He thought he was raising his half-aunt who was a fifth his age!
But I'm getting off track, point is, UD went down in history for basically jumpscaring people with incest after they'd already been reading for 44 chapters, and then not even having the balls to commit to it being incest with a contrived twist.

This manga has been extremely clear from the start that the dynamic is going to be Klael seeing Reina as a static protagonist that he's just pushing down some kind of story path, while Reina sees Klael as her future husband. He's not even really a father figure, he's a priest taking care of an orphan. Nobody has any right to complain that they didn't see it coming if the story goes down the daughterwife road. If seeing "daughterwife" just now gave you a feeling of deep disgust, that's a good thing, but you should probably just unfollow the manga now and forget about it.


Having read the WN... yeah, sorry, if you aren't open to daughterwife endings you're in for a bad time. I feel like this barely qualifies as a spoiler since the manga is already so blatant about how strong Reina's feelings are and it's obviously going to keep playing out this dynamic rather than have it be "just a phase," but if you have any hope that this might be a pure platonic familial love just throw that hope away now. Like c'mon man the manga has the romance + loli tags and everything.
You know, this here comment was one of the best and most clearly worded ones i've read in quite some time. Thanks for the Spoiler. While the Word "daughterwife" does indeed Spark a very unpleasant Feeling, i'll See where the Manga goes for a few more chapters ... But this one Here gave me a Lot of concerns Not because of the semi-incest but because shes a minor. To the Maximum of the words extent. Not even Like 17. Full on child, playing with Sticks.

If the non blood related priest ends up with a 25 yrs Younger daughterwife i will find it disgusting but Not... Ethically wrong? (I Hope thats the one i mean.) They can do that if they want. Buuuut as Long as shes a child... Thats too far imo. Hope they keep the romance stuff at the "innocent kid" Level until shes grown up. The story is Generally cute so i'd hate to drop it over MC being a pedo but i absolutely will if the author gets impatient in that regard.
 
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You know, this here comment was one of the best and most clearly worded ones i've read in quite some time. Thanks for the Spoiler. While the Word "daughterwife" does indeed Spark a very unpleasant Feeling, i'll See where the Manga goes for a few more chapters ... But this one Here gave me a Lot of concerns Not because of the semi-incest but because shes a minor. To the Maximum of the words extent. Not even Like 17. Full on child, playing with Sticks.

If the non blood related priest ends up with a 25 yrs Younger daughterwife i will find it disgusting but Not... Ethically wrong? (I Hope thats the one i mean.) They can do that if they want. Buuuut as Long as shes a child... Thats too far imo. Hope they keep the romance stuff at the "innocent kid" Level until shes grown up. The story is Generally cute so i'd hate to drop it over MC being a pedo but i absolutely will if the author gets impatient in that regard.


It's been a while but from what I remember, you shouldn't have anything to worry about on that front at least. She's quite a bit older before anything even starts to happen, and even then the developments are more like finally taking the possibility of a relationship more seriously and giving up on the game character shit, rather than "okay let's become lovers and procreate right now."
 
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People always bring up Usagi Drop in situations like this, but its memetic qualities have spread so far that I feel like it's rare for people to even know what the whole drama with Usagi Drop actually was. I'm sure you didn't mean much by mentioning it but I think Usagi Drop really belongs in its own category of manga like Gal Cleaning which pissed off all the readers with its own drastic tonal shift. Bringing UD up whenever incest is mentioned kinda dilutes what made it such a big deal in the first place.

There's room in the heightened escapist fantasy space of fictional manga for non-blood-related incest plots, where all questions of problematic power dynamics and grooming and age gaps are brushed aside with the assurance that it was destined to happen and the parental figure has no ill intent and it's a true authentic love or whatever the fuck the justifications may be. There's even room for actual blood-related incest with actual malicious grooming. Most readers will find that disgusting, and rightfully so, but people can write whatever fiction they want and the onus is on the reader to choose what they consume and stop reading things that they obviously aren't going to like.

What made Usagi Drop so upsetting to so many was that it spent the entire first half of the story being purely about Daikichi learning to be a dad, almost no hints that it could be going in any other direction, with Rin's romantic feelings being extremely subtle if they even existed at all. Most readers were already committed to what they saw as a pure story about family by the halfway point where suddenly everything shifts and it's about a high school girl crushing on her father figure. And then, out of nowhere, comes what feels like the asspull of them not being blood related. Surprise!

Even then, people who were familiar with josei manga tropes saw it coming from miles away, another part of why Usagi Drop had so much impact was because it reached far beyond its intended demographic. Plus, despite the not-blood-related asspull, Daikichi was never her dad in the first place, he was taking care of who he thought was his grandpa's kid, so they thought they were blood related but he was never her actual father. He thought he was raising his half-aunt who was a fifth his age!
But I'm getting off track, point is, UD went down in history for basically jumpscaring people with incest after they'd already been reading for 44 chapters, and then not even having the balls to commit to it being incest with a contrived twist.

This manga has been extremely clear from the start that the dynamic is going to be Klael seeing Reina as a static protagonist that he's just pushing down some kind of story path, while Reina sees Klael as her future husband. He's not even really a father figure, he's a priest taking care of an orphan. Nobody has any right to complain that they didn't see it coming if the story goes down the daughterwife road. If seeing "daughterwife" just now gave you a feeling of deep disgust, that's a good thing, but you should probably just unfollow the manga now and forget about it.


Having read the WN... yeah, sorry, if you aren't open to daughterwife endings you're in for a bad time. I feel like this barely qualifies as a spoiler since the manga is already so blatant about how strong Reina's feelings are and it's obviously going to keep playing out this dynamic rather than have it be "just a phase," but if you have any hope that this might be a pure platonic familial love just throw that hope away now. Like c'mon man the manga has the romance + loli tags and everything.
Ehhh, I know what I’m getting myself into when I started reading this. I just name dropped Usagi Drop because I only knew how people generally used the term, and wrote what I loosely believed to be the correct term in this case.

Thanks for clarifying that with such a long explanation, that clears up how I should go about using the term going forward~
 
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People seem to be forgetting his entire motivation for wanting her to be interested in boys her own age; he feels like her level of attachment to him isn't okay, and wants her to be less dependent on him.
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That's why he asks about it, to see if things are improving. It's an entirely reasonable concern (even if we know it's hopeless).
 
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And good for you avoiding such teasing/comments, basically everyone I know had it done to them, boy or girl, since kindergarten or even earlier... It was one of the primary reasons why boys and girls didn't play together almost ever, unless organized somehow. Even if the adults didn't do it, the children already internalized teasing about it by early elementary.
Fuck, I’m sooo glad that kind of toxic environment is not what I grew up into…
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While I know that there are female member in our community and can't say for 100% you're teenaged male, your commentary doesn't sound like either of my daughters or their female cousins, or any of their girlfriends. You do however sound like some of the nephews... so read into that that however you want.
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Sorry, I can only leave one reaction, and that didn’t feel enough to fully represent what I felt reading this piece.
 
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People seem to be forgetting his entire motivation for wanting her to be interested in boys her own age; he feels like her level of attachment to him isn't okay, and wants her to be less dependent on him.
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That's why he asks about it, to see if things are improving. It's an entirely reasonable concern (even if we know it's hopeless).

This is why Klael's inconsistent character is so awful. He acts as if he is entirely helpless before the almighty plot of the game, and what will be will be, and he's just some irrelevant background NPC that has no worth, and no potential of changing anything. But, the way he's involving himself in the game's story and characters, taking an active role with these things, makes absolutely no sense if that is his mindset.

Surely if he believes the game is pre-determined and he is unable to change it, then this wouldn't ever be a possible concern. It's not something he would need to attempt to interfere with or push her towards having an interest in boys her own age. The love interests that the game established would simply happen. It would just be, "Oh yeah, the game was HEAVILY centered around all its different love routes, so all that stuff is definitely going to happen one way or another one day."

This story's really gotta pick a lane with him.
 
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Ehhh, I know what I’m getting myself into when I started reading this. I just name dropped Usagi Drop because I only knew how people generally used the term, and wrote what I loosely believed to be the correct term in this case.

Thanks for clarifying that with such a long explanation, that clears up how I should go about using the term going forward~

I don't want you to take it to heart too much either, I just kinda felt like going off on a rant, but I'm sure most people don't mind nearly as much. It's not really reasonable to expect people to be aware of all the lore details about a josei manga/anime that ended in 2011 :ROFLMAO:
 
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This is why Klael's inconsistent character is so awful. He acts as if he is entirely helpless before the almighty plot of the game, and what will be will be, and he's just some irrelevant background NPC that has no worth, and no potential of changing anything. But, the way he's involving himself in the game's story and characters, taking an active role with these things, makes absolutely no sense if that is his mindset.

Surely if he believes the game is pre-determined and he is unable to change it, then this wouldn't ever be a possible concern. It's not something he would need to attempt to interfere with or push her towards having an interest in boys her own age. The love interests that the game established would simply happen. It would just be, "Oh yeah, the game was HEAVILY centered around all its different love routes, so all that stuff is definitely going to happen one way or another one day."

This story's really gotta pick a lane with him.

This is a really common stupid trope that keeps coming up in otome game isekai stories. "OH NO, I'M DESTINED TO DIE IN ALL PLOT ROUTES WHEN THE GREAT HUGE DISASTER OF BIG STINKO TOWN HAPPENS!!!" and then they immediately take action that turns big stinko town into happy utopiaville, already totally prepared for the great huge disaster, and all the characters who killed the protag in the game are now their bffs, but they keep shitting bricks over absolutely nothing. It feels like it's more common than not at this point, but the silver lining is that when the story doesn't make the protagonist stupid, it feels like something special!
 

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