Shura Youjo no Eiyuutan ~Hanpa-sha to Iwa Reta Youhei, Youjo ni Tensei Shite Nariagaru~ - Ch. 8

[MangaDex]

 

[CrimsonWarden]

It's an illusion and not a replica.
So force of will is an obvious counter to deception.

 

[Celiohogane]

"No one has ever escaped this illusion!"

"Nah im built different"

 

[DaDingo]

"No one has ever escaped this illusion!"

"Nah im built different"

ik your joking but i think that fr Mc is built differently.

So the illusion was suppose to capture a Hero, and in this world a hero is someone born with power meaning they are by default superhumans, from what we've seen so far they don't look like they struggle at all meaning that they have weaker wills while in comparison Mc has spend his entire life chasing a foolish dream he even died and came back with it.

This means that his Will transients his life meaning he has a unbreakable will which the illusion wasn't suppose to deal with.

at least this is what i got from it.

 

[GMRF1708]

Now we wait one more month

 

[pedronimo]

"No one has ever escaped this illusion!"

"Nah im built different"

he's like cid kagenou but instead of being chunni he's just a swordsman

 

[Shmeep]

As far as "fatally stabbed by a sword" fake-outs go, I really liked this one!

 

[ziel_demon]

Lets go old man!

 

[Velmoria]

Absolute peak

 

[WhimsiCat]

I wonder which will happen now

1. The sword become his as the illusion itself is also a test for worthy master.
2. The sword 'die' and he absorbs its odo.

After all he still has a rematch outside.
Part of me want 1 to happen and he use the illusion on the guy right back, but given his personality I feel he'd pick 2 and go murderhobo some more.

 

[Ashabel]

ik your joking but i think that fr Mc is built differently.

So the illusion was suppose to capture a Hero, and in this world a hero is someone born with power meaning they are by default superhumans, from what we've seen so far they don't look like they struggle at all meaning that they have weaker wills while in comparison Mc has spend his entire life chasing a foolish dream he even died and came back with it.

This means that his Will transients his life meaning he has a unbreakable will which the illusion wasn't suppose to deal with.

at least this is what i got from it.

Verestvale simply didn't understand him.

Her argument was that because he spent his life chasing the dream of becoming a hero, he never became one so he didn't achieve anything. Furthermore, because he had no talent to become a hero, he won't achieve it one way or another. Therefore his life is one of regrets and it's best to cut his losses. Her argument comes from a place where result is what matters is because Solfort cannot produce it, his life can only be one of regrets.

Solfort's argument is that his dream is not the intended result, but a goal to create for his life. Although he was outpaced by everyone around him, he lived his entire life chasing his dream and that meant that in the end he lived happily and freely; his only regret wasn't that he didn't achieve his dream, but that he could no longer chase it. Solfort doesn't care about the dream, only about the journey.

Furthermore, Verestvale's method of keeping him trapped in the illusion was by turning into a perfect imitation of Irene Delford, known to the world as the "strongest human". The idea is because his subconscious mind would align her with Irene, she would also fight like Irene and because Irene is the strongest, she would automatically win every fight. However, Solfort met Irene in the past and because she acted nothing like Irene and couldn't grasp his argument, his subconscious perception of her became misaligned so that Verestvale was no longer "Irene" but "a cheap imitation wearing the skin of Irene". The result is that she could no longer fight like Irene, but only as a cheap imitation, and became easy pickings for him.

At least that's what I got from it.

 

[letmereadmangas]

Verestvale simply didn't understand him.

Her argument was that because he spent his life chasing the dream of becoming a hero, he never became one so he didn't achieve anything. Furthermore, because he had no talent to become a hero, he won't achieve it one way or another. Therefore his life is one of regrets and it's best to cut his losses. Her argument comes from a place where result is what matters is because Solfort cannot produce it, his life can only be one of regrets.

Solfort's argument is that his dream is not the intended result, but a goal to create for his life. Although he was outpaced by everyone around him, he lived his entire life chasing his dream and that meant that in the end he lived happily and freely; his only regret wasn't that he didn't achieve his dream, but that he could no longer chase it. Solfort doesn't care about the dream, only about the journey.

Furthermore, Verestvale's method of keeping him trapped in the illusion was by turning into a perfect imitation of Irene Delford, known to the world as the "strongest human". The idea is because his subconscious mind would align her with Irene, she would also fight like Irene and because Irene is the strongest, she would automatically win every fight. However, Solfort met Irene in the past and because she acted nothing like Irene and couldn't grasp his argument, his subconscious perception of her became misaligned so that Verestvale was no longer "Irene" but "a cheap imitation wearing the skin of Irene". The result is that she could no longer fight like Irene, but only as a cheap imitation, and became easy pickings for him.

At least that's what I got from it.

Typical case of "seeing it but not understanding it"

 

[Lunkli]

So what I'm getting is that the sword's basically cheating by basing its illusion form on someone its target perceives as "the strongest." And for most people in this world, there seems to be a fundamental underlying belief that strength is an inherent thing that can't be defied. That means that the mental image these people would have of "the strongest" would always be unsurpassable, as that's just how they view people stronger than them.

Sol doesn't think like that, though, instead seeing people stronger than him as people he could one day defeat. So his mental image of "the strongest" can be defeated. Because that's fundamentally how he thinks of people stronger than him. And when the sword rebuked his claims that vying to become stronger was a worthwhile use of time, that solidified in his mind that he could beat it, because (from his perspective,) someone that never tries to surpass their own limits will easily stagnate and fall behind.

 

[JJTheWeeb]

This got me curious so I went check the webnovel, and man this dream section is much longer there (it's like 2 chapters, but the webnovel chapters are really long compared to usual ones).

also kinda cool to attempt to read the fallout of this (gtranslated syosetu be jank)

 

[zdanputra]

Lets go old man!

I think it become let's go little girl now

 

[hsun]

"No one has ever escaped this illusion!"

"Nah im built different"

"Nah, I'd win"

 

[Yuna4Yuu]

Damm, that's the longest first page I've read.

 

[Bramia]

Something all these mangas that depict "talentless" MCs fail at is that hard effort is almost never the right way to learn. If everyone surpasses you when training in one way, then that's just not the right way for you to learn.

It's extremely annoying the only answer the author found to MC's problem was "You're doomed. You rolled the lottery on your first body and failed which means you will never amount to anything in your life. This time you rolled it again and you won, so now you're the strongest person alive"

 

[kingkongkr]

bros aura farming

 

[Celiohogane]

ik your joking but i think that fr Mc is built differently.

So the illusion was suppose to capture a Hero, and in this world a hero is someone born with power meaning they are by default superhumans, from what we've seen so far they don't look like they struggle at all meaning that they have weaker wills while in comparison Mc has spend his entire life chasing a foolish dream he even died and came back with it.

This means that his Will transients his life meaning he has a unbreakable will which the illusion wasn't suppose to deal with.

at least this is what i got from it.

Tecnically that means he is not built different.
It just means the Heroes are built wrong.