Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[DragOnDragonMaster]

How it felt watching @Manko-sensei and @Angry_Panda fight in this thread.

Extremely disappointed in the latter though. I won't elaborate on this the thread was enough

 

[seekermoc]

It is liberals who are pushing for censoring lolis, in order to "protect women" and "stop misogyny" and "stop the male gaze".

Just like how Joseph Lieberman and Herbert Kohl had pushed in the 90s for laws to ban violent video games:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993–94_United_States_Senate_hearings_on_video_games

But people completely forgot about that, they only remember Jack Thompson, who was a complete nobody that everybody ignored and laughed at.

People falsely believe that censorship only comes from right-wing religious groups, but that's completely incorrect.

I remember when being right-wing included being pro-free speech / anti-censorship. How the times have changed. Though I mostly blame the US 2-party system for this, there are too many political issues to shoehorn everyone's beliefs into one of two opposing groups.

 

[Basic_human]

How it felt watching @Manko-sensei and @Angry_Panda fight in this thread.

Extremely disappointed in the latter though. I won't elaborate on this the thread was enough

YOU ALIVE?!! YOU ALIVE?!!!!!

 

[makait]

Sometimes public actions are taken due to policy changes before we've had the chance to completely communicate the changes. While this could be improved to some degree, some matters can put the site's longevity at risk, so it should be somewhat understandable that some titles disappeared before we've had the chance to work out how to word an extra rule or support channel reply. We're not intentionally trying to keep people in the dark about this.

I also believe it's pointless to debate the existance of tags, personal staff opinions, or morality of the content. We just can't have it on the site going forward, it is what it is. It'll be gradually removed as mods get notified, no one's getting retroactively mod-actioned over it, just don't add it anymore.

This website has been going downhill for a while now. And those out-of-touch staff only assure us that the future is even more grim. And now, they're doing things in the dark. It's about time to jump ship and let them enjoy the millions of dollars of ad revenue they'd enjoy when everyone is out.

I don't like telling people what to do, but if you're a supporter and care about the issue, you can just stop donating.

A piracy website pretending to have a moral ground, what a fucking joke. Having lolis didn't hurt anyone, but your damned theft, pretty sure, hurt authors and their families.

 

[yamusing]

as technology gets better, they'll be no more piracy as crackdowns will be easy. Mangadex is moving in the direction of legal like other sites have before they get hit for good. Sad but true.

 

[DragOnDragonMaster]

Shoutout to my family members @sorawild and @Superasil glad you're doing well

And to @agz, no idea who you are but you're based af dude

 

[Nepheros]

This website has been going downhill for a while now. And those out-of-touch staff only assure us that the future is even more grim. And now, they're doing things in the dark. It's about time to jump ship and let them enjoy the millions of dollars of ad revenue they'd enjoy when everyone is out.

When a piracy website pretends to have a moral ground, what a fucking joke. Having lolis didn't hurt anyone, but your damned theft, pretty sure, hurt authors and their families.

B-b-but muh feelings ? muh illegal drawings ?

 

[makait]

I remember when being right-wing included being pro-free speech / anti-censorship. How the times have changed. Though I mostly blame the US 2-party system for this, there are too many political issues to shoehorn everyone's beliefs into one of two opposing groups.

No one cares about free speech. All régimes seek censorship when they are on top of the hierarchy. Be it right, left, monarchies, theocracies...
Really principaled free speech advocates are very rare.

 

[unfilteredjw]

I wouldn't worry too much. It'll blow over at some point.

Well yeah

People will move to the better option.

 

[unfilteredjw]

Jumping back here because my previous post had a sentence that was poorly worded and came off as too much of a personal attack or moral grandstanding. I also didn't provide enough context on the content being removed, so that's on me.

I've been reading some of the replies, and thank you for voicing your opinions and concerns, whether in this thread or elsewhere. Users want clarification on the removals, so please find it below.

We were made aware of content that goes against our content policy, specifically clause 3.1.1 regarding underage characters in pornographic settings. The content that was removed, and some content still being reviewed, includes entries labelled Mature, with characters that are engaging in sexual intercourse and either:

• They are clearly very young in appearance, and the content does not confirm that they are adults.
• The content itself confirms that they are under the age of 18.

Nothing else is being examined at this time. We're currently exploring options to retain the title entry and other non-infringing metadata, but for now, we need to proceed with the removal.

Damage control begins LOLOLOL

 

[Nepheros]

God, England is such a shithole, these guys have protected gangs of Pakistani Muslims who kidnap and rape underage White girls FOR DECADES, you get arrested for a Facebook post where you say you don't want your town under Sharia law, they send agents because you don't pay the "MUH TV LICENSE" and they want to mass delete FUCKING CARTOONS

 

[makait]

How utterly pathetic and cowardly of them to remove this. Sure am glad alternatives are popping up...

Can you share some good alternatives?

 

[Armorpiercer]

Jumping back here because my previous post had a sentence that was poorly worded and came off as too much of a personal attack or moral grandstanding. I also didn't provide enough context on the content being removed, so that's on me.

I've been reading some of the replies, and thank you for voicing your opinions and concerns, whether in this thread or elsewhere. Users want clarification on the removals, so please find it below.

We were made aware of content that goes against our content policy, specifically clause 3.1.1 regarding underage characters in pornographic settings. The content that was removed, and some content still being reviewed, includes entries labelled Mature, with characters that are engaging in sexual intercourse and either:

• They are clearly very young in appearance, and the content does not confirm that they are adults.
• The content itself confirms that they are under the age of 18.

Nothing else is being examined at this time. We're currently exploring options to retain the title entry and other non-infringing metadata, but for now, we need to proceed with the removal.

maybe next time start with this and you wouldn't get this kind of flak, clearly immature move on your part, deserve every angery, every bonk, every boo

send someone else also, we are kinda done with you right now, tag!

 

[recycled_cont]

you won't be missed, retards. now no one will have trust in this site or the people behind it because its one thing to take down things cause of a dmca request, its another entirely to self police over morals when that wasn't the case for years. die in a ditch where y'all belong and i hope my words hurt your fragile feelings cause staimer is making you piss yourself

 

[Perm]

Titles being removed are those we have been made aware of through a legal nexus as "considered the distribution of illegal material". Moderation will not go beyond the titles mentioned; there was Papa Milk and anything adjacent, and some others still in review.

If we are notified of anything else, we will try to inform uploaders before proceeding with removals, where possible.

absolutely wild backtrack

 

[asakinotes]

registered as LTD in UK
Namicomi is one of the ppl linked

Yeah no, it's all downhill from here bois

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16623153

God, England is such a shithole, these guys have protected gangs of Pakistani Muslims who kidnap and rape underage White girls FOR DECADES, you get arrested for a Facebook post where you say you don't want your town under Sharia law, they send agents because you don't pay the "MUH TV LICENSE" and they want to mass delete FUCKING CARTOONS

Mangadex must die then, I hope the worst for them
"muh moral, law nshiet"
it's a pirate site about drawing, stand your ground faggot, act like a man you bitch, now ban me faggot, don't care lmao, the uk is a irrelevant shithole anyway, hope for the whole mangadex team to become homeless and live under a bridge

 

[luigiymario2]

Titles being removed are those we have been made aware of through a legal nexus as "considered the distribution of illegal material". Moderation will not go beyond the titles mentioned; there was Papa Milk and anything adjacent, and some others still in review.

If we are notified of anything else, we will try to inform uploaders before proceeding with removals, where possible.

What legal nexus? Illegal how and where?

Basically what I gather from all this is that they were forced by a cease and desist from someone claiming "x" manga was CSAM even though clearly it wasn't, and so MD had to legally comply to take it down, even though the whole thing is baffling to me because this is a piracy website and I don't think the FBI would ever take it down on any charge of sharing CSAM bruh

 

[theblasblas]

my thoughts as someone with no stake in the argument: if loli/shotacon is the only thing holding this entire site together for you then maybe you should go to another site specifically designed for just that kind of content :?

1. Those kinds of sites tend to be riddled with ads, don't keep track of translations by multiple different groups and have a poorer reading experience overall.
2. All my lists and reading statuses are on this site... or WERE on this site for some of them. Since the Title pages themselves got removed I can't even find them anymore.

 

[Archimedes5000]

B-b-but muh feelings ? muh illegal drawings ?

In case you haven't noticed, you are currently on a site for "illegal drawings"

So yeah, would kind of suck to lose 100% of the site (sorry NamiComi, noone actually reads your releases)

 

[RogueKitsune]

We were made aware of content that goes against our content policy, specifically clause 3.1.1 regarding underage characters in pornographic settings. The content that was removed, and some content still being reviewed, includes entries labelled Mature, with characters that are engaging in sexual intercourse and either:

• They are clearly very young in appearance, and the content does not confirm that they are adults.
• The content itself confirms that they are under the age of 18.

3.1.1 section in the content policy : "Illegal Content, in particular, child pornography, child abuse and drug abuse."

How does this affect titles such as Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete, Made in Abyss, Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii, etc. While they are not "Mature" titles you cannot deny they violate content policy as defined.

Then there is the question what happens to everything else that contains "Illegal Content"? Berserk contains everything and more, so does it get removed as well?

Finally, why now? You didn't just find out about this content suddenly. Literally the first chapter ever uploaded to MD was removed because it goes against the content policy. So what changed?

Nothing else is being examined at this time. We're currently exploring options to retain the title entry and other non-infringing metadata, but for now, we need to proceed with the removal.

If the issue is the covers then just have the covers replaced with some sort of placeholder image.