Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[ZenMasters]

GUYS, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP SHITTING ON MANGADEX AND THE MODS OVER THIS!!!


Because I can't upvotes them fast enough.

 

[sorawild]

Might be a bit unrelated, but have you noticed a pattern? It feels like UK and EU is trying to colonizing the internet like it's 1800 over again with all the surveillance attempts and censorship efforts lately

I'm not European or American myself, but i can feel how uncomfortable this is already, and we're just getting only a pinch of it elsewhere.

In their fear of a new "Angry 1940's mustache man" appearing, their government overreach and nanny state policies that actively restrict people's liberties are going to create a new "Angry 1940's mustache man."

 

[PilotNOT]

Lmao they deleted anything related to the other manga alternative

 

[sadmanex]

waaaa they delete the post

 

[Miros]

In their fear of a new "Angry 1940's mustache man" appearing, their government overreach and nanny state policies that actively restrict people's liberties are going to create a new "Angry 1940's mustache man."

they are fine as long art schools don't start to reject people

 

[WhiteRaven_OfTheValley]

Deleting the post about other alternatives or not, people is going to move on with their titles name in hands anyways, if they think they can stop user drain, they ain't doing anything meaningful

Infact, they making it worst.

 

[seekermoc]

Lmao they deleted anything related to the other manga alternative

My reply about Korean manhwa was removed as well, and it wasn't even about any particular site.

MD has always banned direct links to aggregator sites, but removing discussion of MD alternatives without directly linking other sites is going too far.

 

[BestBoy]

Bato.to get sold

original batoto wasn't sold. The guy who ran it just got tired and decided to shut it down one day. That's why there was such a rush to get MD up and running. There was limited time to grab all the series on batoto before it was gone for good.

 

[dmy96]

My reply about Korean manhwa was removed as well, and it wasn't even about any particular site.

MD has always banned direct links to aggregator sites, but removing discussion of MD alternatives without directly linking other sites is going too far.

They're feeling threatened already.

 

[Miros]

original batoto wasn't sold. The guy who ran it just got tired and decided to shut it down one day. That's why there was such a rush to get MD up and running. There was limited time to grab all the series on batoto before it was gone for good.

wasn't he raided?

 

[deleted-user-489d1bc1cf]

Last I check Fakku could no longer host most of "problematic" contents since late last year

You'd be the only person to know this as nobody has used fakku since they decided they didn't want to have hentai on their hentai site

 

[quindarious]

The relevant section has been in the content policy for a while. However, as a platform with user-provided content, there are things we enforce reactively based on legal complaints received. This is pretty standard operation for platforms with high volume of user-provided content. Ether stated what was affected in the current round, and I will refrain from speculating on things we have not received complaints on.

I'd also like to clear up, to the many people who seem unaware, that MD operates within legal compliance, as should've been made painfully aware by this and previous content removals. Like it or not, this is the only option for the continued existence of the site.

Yeah we here at Mangadex wouldn't want to host anything ilegally, amirite?

 

[Lolipop_Candy]

This is betrayal. MD finally unmask themselves.

Why should follow a subcountry law while MD can move to operate to another country that have no such laws. Are you guys is finally start moving like CR / F! way and gonna take down pirate site like them according to your keikaku ?

Remember that your base was ancient Batoto replacement. And there was bato.to that was destroyed.

If you can replace Batoto, we can replace you easily.

 

[BestBoy]

removing discussion of MD alternatives

They've been enforcing that every now and then since the big DMCA removal. Not sure how it is now, but it was less consistent early on.

 

[dmy96]

So MD mod is working OT on this page, removing any mention or hint of alternative

 

[Miros]

They're feeling threatened already.

of course they are, they are trying to go legal

But are dumb enough to not only to antagonize their userbase but also straight up insult them calling them pedos (which is funny because everytime someone says that type of shit about lolies they have some skeletons in their closet)

 

[shinshom]

Might be a bit unrelated, but have you noticed a pattern? It feels like UK and EU is trying to colonizing the internet like it's 1800 over again with all the surveillance attempts and censorship efforts lately

I'm not European or American myself, but i can feel how uncomfortable this is already, and we're just getting only a pinch of it elsewhere.

I'm Brazillian and ngl i beeing quite annoying seeing those countries trying to dictate what is right or wrong when their are behaving like clowns themselves towards their own country.

 

[dmy96]

They've been enforcing that every now and then since the big DMCA removal. Not sure how it is now, but it was less consistent early on.

Most of my comments were deleted already

 

[Xnot]

Which of those jurisdictions are relevant to MD? It's not illegal in the US.

Australia, UK, Canada to name a few.

And again, what about the removed series has anything to do with underage characters? It's been mentioned a few times, but the series in question is about adults, it's the tags that were incorrect.

The stray cat girl series contained a high-school girl, which was ambiguous enough to be included. I'm not aware of any official content confirming her as over 18 and the scanlator did not provide any when I spoke to them.

Not to mention that this is a super weak excuse, given that if legality of content was actually an issue, MD wouldn't exist in the first place. And if MD really cared about underage characters, it'd be trivial to just purge the literally hundreds of series with thousands of chapters that are tagged with both loli or shota and pornographic. Add suggestive to that list and you could just purge like half of all manga in existence.

Please see:

The content that was removed, and some content still being reviewed, includes entries labelled Mature, with characters that are engaging in sexual intercourse and either:

• They are clearly very young in appearance, and the content does not confirm that they are adults.
• The content itself confirms that they are under the age of 18.

Nothing else is being examined at this time. We're currently exploring options to retain the title entry and other non-infringing metadata, but for now, we need to proceed with the removal.

Ether stated what was affected in the current round, and I will refrain from speculating on things we have not received complaints on.

I won't bother with further "what about x series" replies.

you're just pretending to be stupid and you know it.
just shut the website down, dude.

If you believe there is anything wrong with what you quoted, spell it out. I don't mind replying if people are being civil, but if you're just gonna vaguepost and insult me you're just getting banned.

Twitter is a for-profit corporation. Mangadex is a non-profit project run by the scanlation community for the scanlation community, and being able to operate in any arbitrary jurisdiction shouldn't be a consideration. Even comparing the two is an insult to our intelligence. Unless all the reassurances from the mods that MD is still a community project and being operated by NamiComi won't change anything are BS.

Though seriously, if this is a decision from the new corporate overlords, just tell us that openly. You owe us that much considering MangaDex would be nothing without its user community, and the contributors need to know whether they can still post content here or if they need to be afraid of running afoul of unannounced rule changes.

MD is a non-profit project, but the costs are still running. We gotta do what we gotta do. And as stated back in the takedown FAQ, one of the reasons for coming under NC management was due to the legal framework to handle claims like these.

"Bad faith" when you have Admins in the staff calling people pedophiles over manga.

Using bad faith as an argument was immediately lost when this happened.

Yes, it was uncalled for. I and several staff members wish she hadn't said that. I can't change the past, you can choose to believe in her apology or not. She's not getting demoted or removed over it. I'm not mad about it, but I think it's understandable that other people are. The choice to remove the content was unrelated to her or any staff member's personal opinion of the content.

Oh! So you admit that you are CHOOSING to censor things.

You could just... not cater to those jurisdictions, just like how you don't cater to the Muslim countries that ban homosexuality.

So you blatantly lied when you claimed that you have no choice, you blatantly lied when you claimed that censoring is the only way for MangaDex to continue to exist.

There are other ways for MangaDex to continue to exist, you are simply not choosing those ways.

Yes, much like you choose to follow laws instead of going to jail. Or how you choose to remove dozens of titles instead of blocking millions of users. Or how you choose to be obtuse about wording to post passive-agressive replies instead of using reasonable common sense interpratation.

 

[BestBoy]

wasn't he raided?

I don't think so? Not from what I recall, at least.