Akuyaku Reijou no Oyome-sama - Vol. 3 Ch. 15

[milkysyn]

Go get em head, girl!

 

[Tcof]

why all of you now all about: dog being dump and shit now ?

don't you all remember at the wedding chapter, we all said the same thing as her "That it ? That is your revange"​

and aren't we also feel the same on the sister's reveal "being misunderstood". and given than they should not know that side of story. The princess should be hold real urge over her sister and actually should feel part of her burden lift once revenge is done

The dog are the only sane person in this story

 

[Nautical]

The problem isn't that the revenge wasn't good enough! It's that she never wanted revenge in the first place! She convinced herself that what she wanted was revenge, but then she got it and she just felt nothing because it was never what she actually wanted.

Problem is theres no plot.
Prince really hates her for no reason and cuz of him everyone hates her.
Sister does nothing to stop this and is basically complicit.
Wolf can pretty much do anything but receives no requests so nothing happens.
MC wants revenge but her revenge strat is to do absolutely nothing and has no compatibility with Wolf.

Right now the wolf deciding that killing the sister doesnt actually make any impact on the plot unless the MC secretly cares even though for all she knows the sister wants her dead.

 

[mindlessBiped]

Page 10. That eye. We have an actual dragon here

 

[Zhangar]

Wolfgirl choosing violence wasn't where I expected this to go, but it's a welcome direction.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

About time someone questioned the 'revenge'...

The problem isn't that the revenge wasn't good enough! It's that she never wanted revenge in the first place! She convinced herself that what she wanted was revenge, but then she got it and she just felt nothing because it was never what she actually wanted.

No... the problem is that the revenge wasn't good enough. However that isn't the ONLY problem. Karina was literally wronged and left with almost nothing, but the desire to get back at the people who wronged her. I don't know how you can think of this as never wanting revenge. It's one thing to say that she changed her mind about the revenge (in which the story should've done better to show this transition), but to say that she never wanted it is practically ignoring the first half of the story.

Problem is theres no plot.
Prince really hates her for no reason and cuz of him everyone hates her.
Sister does nothing to stop this and is basically complicit.
Wolf can pretty much do anything but receives no requests so nothing happens.
MC wants revenge but her revenge strat is to do absolutely nothing and has no compatibility with Wolf.

Seriously this. I've said it before, but the story just doesn't know where it wants to go. Hopefully it picks a lane already and start developing from there.

 

[yeahhhhhhhhno]

Ok so that's how the fairy tale plays out. She kills Aurora, Karina crashes out because it wasn't what she really wanted and rejects Reshtoka, which makes her crash out and kills Karina in a fit of despair.

 

[Sunzo]

Prince is u target

 

[deathpigeon]

No... the problem is that the revenge wasn't good enough.

If she had killed everyone at the wedding, she would not be happy. She would have returned with Reshtoka and then freaked out because she killed her sister and only felt worse. No, her problem isn't that the revenge was inadequate. The story has communicated this all the time that what she thinks she wants and what will actually make her happy are two very different things.

 

[IamaTire]

I will put my trust in the Romance tag

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

If she had killed everyone at the wedding, she would not be happy. She would have returned with Reshtoka and then freaked out because she killed her sister and only felt worse. No, her problem isn't that the revenge was inadequate. The story has communicated this all the time that what she thinks she wants and what will actually make her happy are two very different things.

Ah and there's the mistake that so many of the people who say that the revenge isn't the goal make... They automatically think to have revenge is to kill. News flash... It's not.

It may be the swiftest way (especially since Karina has the wolf tribe as an ally), but it certainly isn't the only way. Getting revenge simply means, hitting back where it'd hurt. There were a number of ways to achieve this without actually murdering.

Crashing the wedding should've been the start, but Karina left before doing anything (anything significant that is) more than that. She could've had the prince beaten, she could've spilled some of the royal family's dirty laundry (I wouldn't be surprised if she knew a few considering her years of training as the Prince's fiance).

Better yet, she didn't even need to reveal herself, if ruining the wedding was the goal. She could've simply had her and Reshtoku destroy the chapel, the night before the wedding takes place and leave behind cryptic and haunting messages. There were already rumors of her haunting the kingdom (since most had believed that she were dead), if she had committed into the rumors, she would've brought forth the idea that she had cursed the royal family and/or her sister.

Long story short; there were a number of ways for to get her revenge without killing anyone. The fact that she left without even touching the prince, despite knowing the verbal abuse and humiliation that he put her though and even the fact that she believes and knows that he sent people to kill her should illustrate the fact that she didn't do any real damage for her 'revenge'.

 

[cricket1331]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

 

[deathpigeon]

Ah and there's the mistake that so many of the people who say that the revenge isn't the goal make... They automatically think to have revenge is to kill. News flash... It's not.

There's no sort of revenge she could have done which would have made her happy. This has been pretty directly communicated. It was basically as directly communicated as it could have been without stating it out right in this chapter specifically.

Revenge is perfectly fine, but it's clearly not what Karina actually wants or needs. If she did want it in her heart of hearts, she would have done a much better revenge and felt something when she did her revenge. Even if this wasn't enough for her, if what she wanted was revenge, she would have returned and felt dissatisfied and hungry for more, but what actually happened is she returned and felt hollow and sad and like nothing she could do could possibly make her feel better.

Frankly, if what she wanted was revenge, she would have focused on the prince. He was the one who actually wronged her even in her own narrative of events, but she can't help but focus on her sister because all of her actual emotions of hurt are around her relationship with her sister because she loves her sister and she doesn't give a shit about the prince.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

There's no sort of revenge she could have done which would have made her happy. This has been pretty directly communicated. It was basically as directly communicated as it could have been without stating it out right in this chapter specifically.

Are you serious...? You do realize that for her to be happy, she first has to let go of the resentment and hatred that she feels right?

Now how is she supposed to do that when she's still burdened with the anger, resentment, and frustration that she still feels towards the Prince, her sister, and her family. Heck it's to the point that she's still holding onto that damn ring. It just shows that it's still festering in her and eating away at her.

And that's where the revenge comes in for her to actually release that pent up anger and frustration, lest she ends up taking it out on herself and others (like Reshtoku and her maid, whom she wrongly rejected at this point). Remember it's not simply killing the people who wronged her. For example if Reshtoku did kill Aurora and brought her corpse back, Karina would likely be devastated. What's important is that Karina has the opportunity and chance to actually make them feel the pain that she felt. Until she has that opportunity, and she does it herself, she'll never be happy.

 

[Turbotune]

I like the progress so far. Reshtoka is about to confront the humans again, because Karina is not open about her own things (I doubt she knows what she wants for herself anyway), and so she have to work with the only desire she have shown in the past, which is the so-called “revenge”.

The highlight of the chapter is definitely Reshtoka’s attempts to communicate and introspective moments. It’s nice seeing her so happy and willing to go to such lengths for the one she loves.

But I’m glad that she can manage to do such extreme things since she’s a wolfkin. This entire thing is about to go much crazier because as we know, Aurora is collaborating with Eve who is also a wolfkin (albeit a more calm and peaceful one), so if Reshtoka will confront Aurora, the two wolves will meet … and you know what happens next.

Like I said before, an interesting part of this story is that there really isn’t much room for worldview development. All the necessary characters are here, and most of the characters don’t have secrets we don’t know. Only what the characters don’t know about each other, so the essence of telling this story is mostly about how they will act when inevitably knowing the truth.

The only significant thing that even the audience don’t know for sure is arguably Karina’s attitude and her accurate wishes, which I believe will show over time, either through her own introspective moments, or after Reshtoka does something drastic and forces her to make up her mind.

Thanks for the translation, and I’ll be looking forward to the next chapter, regardless of what others say!

 

[deathpigeon]

Are you serious...? You do realize that for her to be happy, she first has to let go of the resentment and hatred that she feels right?

Which the revenge isn't really going to help with because what she wants is for her relationship with her sister to be healed. Revenge isn't going to do that. This is why she just feels sad and hollow inside. At most, revenge will make her hate herself as she lashes out at her sister who she loves, but thinks she can never heal her relationship with.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

Which the revenge isn't really going to help with because what she wants is for her relationship with her sister to be healed.

And that's called ignoring the first half of the story. Where Karina had literally slapped away the sister's offering for peace when she returned the stuff animal. Then Karina asking Reshtoku to help her get revenge and to make sure that there was nothing that her sister could take from her... Remember that's what set them all on this path was Karina asking Reshtoku to help her take revenge.

I'll laugh if all this stemmed just because Karina didn't know how to ask her sister to join her for a simple tea and chat.

 

[deathpigeon]

And that's called ignoring the first half of the story. Where Karina had literally slapped away the sister's offering for peace when she returned the stuff animal. Then Karina asking Reshtoku to help her get revenge and to make sure that there was nothing that her sister could take from her... Remember that's what set them all on this path was Karina asking Reshtoku to help her take revenge.

Like, you understand that the things someone thinks they want and tell people that they want don't always align with their actual desires or needs, right? Like, yeah, she's said aloud to others, especially Reshtoka, that what she wants is revenge, but that's not the same as her actually wanting that. People are more complicated than that.

And of course she rejected the stuffed animal. She had already decided that it was impossible for her to fix her relationship with her sister so she could only see it as an additional hurt in their relationship, not as the peace offering it was intended as. She has no more access to her sister's intentions than her sister has with her intentions. They're both just guessing.

 

[dudelookatree]

I'm surprised the they want it to go on for as long as possible. Like a sitcom can go on indefinitely. But a tragedy has a timeline

 

[shemper]

Thank you for your work!