Kuse Tsuyo Kanojo wa Toko ni Izanau - Vol. 4 Ch. 20.6

[ItzDonner]

Man those last chapters really soured this series. I think suga will fuck things up.

 

[Lex27]

Goodness, I love NTR trainwrecks.

 

[chivasmen]

You know, after taking a step back from this and just not giving a fuck any more, this could actually be true.

Right now I think the safest route that Suga could take right now is going down a path like that, and some of the previous chapters lend some credence to the idea.

We've seen it in previous chapters that ever since Naoto caught Luna masturbating, every other time we know of it happening is when he's not home. Like the chapter where he forgot his wallet, Luna waited for Naoto to leave the apartment before she started.

It's entirely possible that she got so worked up that she had no choice but to find somewhere else to do it, otherwise Naoto would catch her again and make things even more embarrassing, or she was getting to the point of actually attacking him.

This would also make sense as to why she went to a normal hotel, as opposed to a love hotel if she was just meeting someone for a fling.

We also know that she had been drinking that night as well, and the dreaded door opening could have just been room service bringing her alcohol and not actually a person she was meeting with.

With all of that in mind and with the previously mentioned "they are like two ships passing in the dark" at the end of chapter 25, it's entirely possible that while Naoto thought that Luna went to the hotel to have sex, while she actually went there so Naoto wouldn't hear her again, especially when she has been thinking about him and calling out his name while doing it. This would also explain why she "couldn't face him right now", because she just spent the entire night masturbating while thinking about him.

Also going to point out that the app keeps getting called a "dating app" instead of a matching app, which is making things sound a whole lot worse than they possibly are. As it was pointed out by Mimi previously that the app isn't used just for dating or sex, but also to meet new people and friends (we also see that hers are also MEN).

While this doesn't really help much with the mess going on with the matching app right now, she just admitted to using it and didn't seem to directly relate it back to the hotel. Which leads me to believe that the person who Luna was talking to on the phone when she was looking after Naoto when he was sick, was someone she met on the matching app as the time frame fits into when Hiba was overseas and Luna didn't have anyone around her and she got lonely. It's also possible that she met with that person again after telling them off, creating the weird dialogue at the start of the chapter.

Now at the end of the chapter, we see Luna seeming to act a bit weird, which makes me think that she may be getting ready to leave so Naoto can "use" the apartment (creating confusing) or we may be getting hit with another secret and she admits that she has been lusting after Naoto the entire time.

I'm hoping things actually go something like this, because the other options are looking pretty grim.

This is the most coherent and sensible comment I’ve read out of all of them. I also think things played out just the way you said; I find it hard to imagine the author, Suga, throwing in NTR on a Grapara level!

 

[Itomi0Hiroshi1]

This is the most coherent and sensible comment I’ve read out of all of them. I also think things played out just the way you said; I find it hard to imagine the author, Suga, throwing in NTR on a Grapara level!

I don't really think so.

Based on the last page of the latest chapter, it looks like she is heading to the door to meet someone. I think it might be her ex-boyfriend or her friend with benefits (FWB). In fact, I believe she has had a casual partner for a while now, who might be the person she was on the phone with when Nao was sick. Because they had an argument during that call, she couldn't reach out to him anymore, which forced her to use a matching app for a one-night stand instead.

If we look at it this way, everything connects: the condom, about kissing, and why there were no other clues after that phone fight until she ended up turning to the matching app.

Let's see next chapter whether my theory holds up. I bet we're definitely getting some major answers soon.

 

[MrPP118]

I don't really think so.

Based on the last page of the latest chapter, it looks like she is heading to the door to meet someone. I think it might be her ex-boyfriend or her friend with benefits (FWB). In fact, I believe she has had a casual partner for a while now, who might be the person she was on the phone with when Nao was sick. Because they had an argument during that call, she couldn't reach out to him anymore, which forced her to use a matching app for a one-night stand instead.

If we look at it this way, everything connects: the condom, about kissing, and why there were no other clues after that phone fight until she ended up turning to the matching app.

Let's see next chapter whether my theory holds up. I bet we're definitely getting some major answers soon.

Based on the panel she's not heading towards the front door.

 

[MrPP118]

Goodness, I love NTR trainwrecks.

Which so far is not the case for this series.

 

[Itomi0Hiroshi1]

Based on the panel she's not heading towards the front door.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/8b069d21-df72-48f2-9997-f99ef5a3ddc8/21
Why wouldn't it be? It really looks like she's going to open the door to meet someone, or something like that.

 

[MrPP118]

https://mangadex.org/chapter/8b069d21-df72-48f2-9997-f99ef5a3ddc8/21
Why wouldn't it be? It really looks like she's going to open the door to meet someone, or something like that.

It looks like she's just going to one of the other rooms, she's certainly not dressed like she's going out.

 

[Itomi0Hiroshi1]

It looks like she's just going to one of the other rooms, she's certainly not dressed like she's going out.

It looks like someone came to see her, and she’s walking over to meet them.

 

[MrPP118]

It looks like someone came to see her, and she’s walking over to meet them.

I'm sorry but I heavily disagree, there's nothing to even suggest that.

Luna was preparing for Friday for Naoto, nothing even implies in the actual chapter that there's another person at the door and she's not even walking to the front door.

Why would Luna agree to help Naoto and then suddenly meet someone by the door?

 

[Itomi0Hiroshi1]

I'm sorry but I heavily disagree, there's nothing to even suggest that.

Luna was preparing for Friday for Naoto, nothing even implies in the actual chapter that there's another person at the door and she's not even walking to the front door.

Why would Luna agree to help Naoto and then suddenly meet someone by the door?

Well, let's see how it plays out next chapter. I already called it: someone’s at the door and she's just walking over to see them. Period.

 

[MrPP118]

Well, let's see how it plays out next chapter. I already called it: someone’s at the door and she's just walking over to see them. Period.

It's fine to make predictions but nothing suggests that someone is even at the door, there's no knocking and if you pay attention to the last few panels, she's not walking to the front door, the room she walked into is clearly closed off.

 

[Ecclesia]

edit:nevermind, I was still on chapter 25.

 

[Lex27]

Which so far is not the case for this series.

I think your definition of NTR is a bit outdated. It really doesn't matter if it's a named character or a faceless goon mating-pressing 'our' girl. It also doesn't matter if she's Nao's spouse or lover.

She's the love interest of our POV character, Nao, who has a graphic imagination of what other men are doing to the girl he loves behind his back. Why even show her getting plowed by a rando in his mind for three pages straight? That decision aims at making him look like a cuck and stiring certain feelings in us, the readers.
Rent-a-girlfriend got memed on for less than this and Kazuya remains as a beta cuck in the mind of the readers to this day.

Behind this decision is the same intention any 'normal' NTR author has. Suga's usually just a bit more indirect with it. Whatever's the outcome of this will-she-won't-she, it's still an NTR fantasy. Call it what you will, it has the same intentions.

Anyways, I'm here for the delicious copium. I love these discussions, so please don't stop.

 

[MrPP118]

I think your definition of NTR is a bit outdated. It really doesn't matter if it's a named character or a faceless goon mating-pressing 'our' girl. It also doesn't matter if she's Nao's spouse or lover.

She's the love interest of our POV character, Nao, who has a graphic imagination of what other men are doing to the girl he loves behind his back. Why even show her getting plowed by a rando in his mind for three pages straight? That decision aims at making him look like a cuck and stiring certain feelings in us, the readers.
Rent-a-girlfriend got memed on for less than this and Kazuya remains as a beta cuck in the mind of the readers to this day.

Behind this decision is the same intention any 'normal' NTR author has. Suga's usually just a bit more indirect with it. Whatever's the outcome of this will-she-won't-she, it's still an NTR fantasy. Call it what you will, it has the same intentions.

Anyways, I'm here for the delicious copium. I love these discussions, so please don't stop.

There's alot wrong here with what you're saying, the main thing being that Suga is not doing NTR and I have a very strong feeling you're going to get bored very quickly, I've seen it before

 

[Lex27]

There's alot wrong here with what you're saying, the main thing being that Suga is not doing NTR and I have a very strong feeling you're going to get bored very quickly, I've seen it before

I won't get bored, because the coping in these threads is always so fucking funny.

 

[besbin]

It's fine to make predictions but nothing suggests that someone is even at the door, there's no knocking and if you pay attention to the last few panels, she's not walking to the front door, the room she walked into is clearly closed off.

This is absolute coping. Chapter 25 page 26, bottom right panel have the sfx "コン コン" which is Japanese for "knock knock" as in the sounds people make when knocking on door. Also next panel on the left show Luna looking at the door a safety lock (the type you have use to avoid outside people rushing into your room) indicate that it's a hallway's door. Next page, she's opening that same door with the safety/latch unlocked. She's definitely going out to greet somebody.

 

[Lex27]

This is absolute coping. Chapter 25 page 26, bottom right panel have the sfx "コン コン" which is Japanese for "knock knock" as in the sounds people make when knocking on door. Also next panel on the left show Luna looking at the door a safety lock (the type you have use to avoid outside people rushing into your room) indicate that it's a hallway's door. Next page, she's opening that same door with the safety/latch unlocked. She's definitely going out to greet somebody.

I might be wrong, but I think they're talking about the latest chapter's (#26) last page, where Nao's confronting Luna to finally do "the deed".

 

[besbin]

I might be wrong, but I think they're talking about the latest chapter's (#26) last page, where Nao's confronting Luna to finally do "the deed".

Yeah, traced back to the original comment. Looks like people are confusing 'newest chapters' between 25&26. Anyway, will wait for the next chapter (27) to see if we are on the chopping block count down or not.

 

[ItzDonner]

Yeah, traced back to the original comment. Looks like people are confusing 'newest chapters' between 25&26. Anyway, will wait for the next chapter (27) to see if we are on the chopping block count down or not.

Or maybe he will timeskip the whole fucking thing and show instead a "imagination" of luna getting plowed by three porn actors while she screams the protagonist name