Akuyaku Reijou no Ani ni Tensei Shimashita - Vol. 7 Ch. 34

[RiceIST00]

holy yapperino

 

[Seetee]

Thank you for the translation!

Character growth in the whole family in this chapter. Nice to see Di "the Villainess" showing so much care and insight. It bodes well for the future!

 

[zeinzki]

Sorry for being 3 days late, anyways I'm now seeing Cain's father in a good light, he's not actually bad he just can't forget his position.

thanks for the hard work.

also rest, buddy. take a rest

 

[Karikko]

I'm glad that even the villagers can see that Cain felt so down and many of them try to console him.

 

[InsaneAwesomeTony]

Thanks for the chapter 🙏🏼

 

[AlterArsene]

I missed diana

 

[Ann2004]

Ok so, here is my problem, the father talked all that stuffs, but like, isn't it because of the "system" that he so proudly spoken of that the whole mess happened? If his "system" works so well, then the mess wouldn't happen, then Cain wouldn't have to step in and "pander" to the people in the first place.

But the mess DID happen, Idgaf if the mess was caused by outsiders influence, if your "system" is able to be exploited, then your "system" clearly has something wrong with it, and thus Cain had to step in, and then you criticized him for FIXING the problem that YOUR "system" help causing in the first place.

Also, imagine if Cain hadn't stepped in, yeah, good fucking luck calming those people down without it escalating into violence, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what the people that caused the problem was aiming for.

 

[Serverclosed]

Really hope they don't come with the bullshit of political marriage here.

 

[zHIST]

So Cain's dad is a somewhat stuck-up noble, but someone who adheres to nobless oblige and significantly differentiated his approach from his own father (Cain's grandpa).

So he will likely eventually admit that it is Cain's right to do things differently as long as it doesn't endanger his family or shakes the society (too much).

"Stuck-up" noble is redundant

 

[Jenst]

Woulden't follow his father for one day lol what a stuck upp loser.

 

[Enalis]

Thank you for the chapter as always ^^

 

[Zephyr]

Ok so, here is my problem, the father talked all that stuffs, but like, isn't it because of the "system" that he so proudly spoken of that the whole mess happened? If his "system" works so well, then the mess wouldn't happen, then Cain wouldn't have to step in and "pander" to the people in the first place.

But the mess DID happen, Idgaf if the mess was caused by outsiders influence, if your "system" is able to be exploited, then your "system" clearly has something wrong with it, and thus Cain had to step in, and then you criticized him for FIXING the problem that YOUR "system" help causing in the first place.

Also, imagine if Cain hadn't stepped in, yeah, good fucking luck calming those people down without it escalating into violence, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what the people that caused the problem was aiming for.

I agree. Perhaps Cain's method wasn't perfect, from a leadership point of view, but the fact remains that ordering people to trust in a supreme figure to shape and control their lives only works so long as their lives are free from trouble, and it's simply not in any leader's power to ensure that. International politics, natural disasters, and internal malefactors can and will obstruct his ability to grant the people peaceful lives, and if all a leader can say in response is "I'm taking care of it, shut up and follow me", then that just leaves an opening for people like the disgraced viscount to come in and twist the people's desire for answers and understanding to their own ends. Maybe inviting the mob into your garden party is bad for the dignity of the lordship, but Cain turning it into an impromptu civics lesson actively helped to defuse the situation that had already brewed to boiling point under the almighty duke's noble reign.

Not to mention, if your goal is to present your lordly house as a position of absolute, unshakeable leadership, if you don't want the common people to see your family as a peers, if you're worried about your son tarnishing the dignity of the nobility, the very last thing you should be doing is giving him a stern dressing-down in front of a crowd of people. And we saw exactly why: in front of the lord, the people bowed in silence, but as soon as he left, they rushed over to comfort and reassure Cain. In that moment, they didn't see him as a future lord and unquestionable leader, they saw him as a sad boy who'd been told off by his father. The lecture in leadership philosophy could have been given later, in a private office, where Cain could process his words in peace; instead, Dismire did more to make the commoners sympathise and bond with Cain, than Cain himself ever could.

 

[FlameKingInferno]

have you heard about nerrisa’s recent skill issue?

 

[KinGrove]

Not to mention, if your goal is to present your lordly house as a position of absolute, unshakeable leadership, if you don't want the common people to see your family as a peers, if you're worried about your son tarnishing the dignity of the nobility, the very last thing you should be doing is giving him a stern dressing-down in front of a crowd of people.

I see the main reason behind Cain's father scolding him in public and "humiliating" him was to give Cain a reality check. If he scolded him behind the scenes, Cain wouldn't take his father's words as seriously or grasp the meaning behind them.

 

[Akudia94]

It reminds me of the dialogue from Fate/Zero between Artoria, Gilgamesh, and Iskander about what a King should aspire to be. Someone who is greater than life itself, someone people desire to follow, not someone who lowers themselves to the whim of the people they rule, etc.

Cain father puts it simply, a leader needs to be someone who is capable of discerning and differentiating whose concerns should be listened to and be a symbol for people to follow rather than looking to them as a peer. Even Cain begins to acknowledge how unknowingly ignorant/arrogant he was, believing that just because he was from the modern era he was above others and knew what's best for them while growing complacent over time.

Cain acknowledging he still has room for personal growth and not looking through this world via the bias of his past life at the end was good.

the father is iskander and actually is right. medieval society are just barely literates and don't really understand politics and economic as nobles. the best way to rules ignorant and illiterate mass is by deciding each other roles. a good leader is someone that respected and feared. but if you have to choose between them, you should be someone that to be feared. trying to carter to all people don't works well as leader. that why in time of national crisis, military and dictatorship become the solution to getting back the order as fear is effective tools to control the people and stabilized the country.

 

[jund6]

But the mess DID happen, Idgaf if the mess was caused by outsiders influence, if your "system" is able to be exploited, then your "system" clearly has something wrong with it, and thus Cain had to step in, and then you criticized him for FIXING the problem that YOUR "system" help causing in the first place.

"If you have a problem, change your fucking car system!"

 

[Askorti]

Ok so, here is my problem, the father talked all that stuffs, but like, isn't it because of the "system" that he so proudly spoken of that the whole mess happened? If his "system" works so well, then the mess wouldn't happen, then Cain wouldn't have to step in and "pander" to the people in the first place.

But the mess DID happen, Idgaf if the mess was caused by outsiders influence, if your "system" is able to be exploited, then your "system" clearly has something wrong with it, and thus Cain had to step in, and then you criticized him for FIXING the problem that YOUR "system" help causing in the first place.

Also, imagine if Cain hadn't stepped in, yeah, good fucking luck calming those people down without it escalating into violence, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what the people that caused the problem was aiming for.

Wrong in so many ways.
It is not the issue with the "system" that people are greedy. No matter how you rule, greedy people that want to take advantage of you and your possessions will always exist. That will never go away, no matter what.
Further, people conspiring against your rule will always exist, regardless of whether you rule in style of the father, or Cain.
The only difference here is that a different trigger would be used to cause turmoil. Even if Cain was in charge from the start, and things were ran his way, the jealous and greedy nobles would simply use a different method to undermine him and attempt their scheme.

 

[Abricomas]

just because he was from the modern era he was above others and knew what's best for them while growing complacent over time.

It's funny because that's the same thought process that the nobles have.
"I'm a noble, I'm actually educated and know more than you, I know what's best for you, so just do what I tell you."
vs
"I'm from a modern society (that is structured completely different to what you've known all your life), I'm actually educated and know more than you (even if I don't have any actual leadership training, or political or administrative education beyond a high school civics class), I know what's best for you, so just do what I tell you."

Sure, when it comes to certain topics, that's a perfectly valid approach, but I do like Cain's growth in realizing the arrogance in thinking that just because he has modern memories that his way is always going to be better than whatever the primitive screwheads of this medieval society can do.
Also the realization that he's technically older than his dad and yet he still needed the reality check.

 

[Zephyr]

It's funny because that's the same thought process that the nobles have.
"I'm a noble, I'm actually educated and know more than you, I know what's best for you, so just do what I tell you."
vs
"I'm from a modern society (that is structured completely different to what you've known all your life), I'm actually educated and know more than you (even if I don't have any actual leadership training, or political or administrative education beyond a high school civics class), I know what's best for you, so just do what I tell you."

Sure, when it comes to certain topics, that's a perfectly valid approach, but I do like Cain's growth in realizing the arrogance in thinking that just because he has modern memories that his way is always going to be better than whatever the primitive screwheads of this medieval society can do.
Also the realization that he's technically older than his dad and yet he still needed the reality check.

Yes, absolutely this. The best lesson here - and the one that Cain ultimately took from it, thanks to Diana - isn't that his father is 100% correct and that Cain needs to become exactly like him, but that 30 years of life experience, as an average Joe in Japan or as a noble lord in fantasy world, doesn't mean you have all the answers. It's not a matter of Cain being right or Dismire being right, it's that they're both wrong in different ways, and the moment you think you've got it all figured out is the moment you fail. This is what will make the difference between Cain and his father - not their ideological disagreements about the standing of nobles, but the fact that Cain is still willing to grow and change, where Dismire's beliefs have calcified.

It's also interesting to note that Cain's failing here is the same one we see over and over again in isekai stories - the assumption that people in a fantasy world are primitive and incurious, and that concepts from our world are objectively more advanced and superior. This is a character flaw that isekai  authors suffer from all the time, let alone the characters they write. Seeing a character realise the problems with that attitude is really refreshing.

 

[GoldenWolf]

Thanks for the chapter.