Akuyaku Reijoutachi wa Yuruganai - Vol. 1 Ch. 2

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This saint kid,
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So let me break it down for you
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y'know these kind of "angry libtard gets destroyed with facts and logic" moments really only work deeper in a story when there's been actual establishment of the characters involved so one can get a better idea of who these characters truly are


also some of these points feel like they're just there to sound cool. She "loves the country" and wants to nurture it etc. etc. yet openly supports class inequality lmao wut. does she think the country is built on the rich or smth

and the prince for whatever reason thinks just hanging out with the boys or any number of guy friends is somehow more suspicious than going fuckin shopping with another girl. not even like a mixed group of girls and guys but a singular girl

ayo this country fucked
 
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y'know these kind of "angry libtard gets destroyed with facts and logic" moments really only work deeper in a story when there's been actual establishment of the characters involved so one can get a better idea of who these characters truly are
Those never work and always just read as a bunch of pretentious nonsense. This manga is just especially shit at it.

Other people saying they're compelled to bow before her. Why? She's gross. And since when are nobles actually "noble"? Pretty sure historically nobles were morons no better than the average person, rather than this refined image this manga so desperately wants to give them. "I live to make my country better", said no noble in history. "Let them eat cake", now that is the kind of detached from reality shit nobles actually think and say.
 
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Those never work and always just read as a bunch of pretentious nonsense. This manga is just especially shit at it.

Other people saying they're compelled to bow before her. Why? She's gross. And since when are nobles actually "noble"? Pretty sure historically nobles were morons no better than the average person, rather than this refined image this manga so desperately wants to give them. "I live to make my country better", said no noble in history. "Let them eat cake", now that is the kind of detached from reality shit nobles actually think and say.
You do realize that quote was never actually said by Marie Antoinette and was just more negative propaganda by commoners to paint nobles in an even worse light.

While at times nobles are flawed and can be corrupt, quoting the French Revolution is probably the worst comparison since all sides ended up being very vicious and corrupt. Especially if you look at the time a mob of commoners stormed the prison holding noble families and slaughtered them all, women and children included. Or would you say even the women and children of noble families deserved it?

History lesson aside.

This is a fantasy genre yo. Why so serious?
 
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You do realize that quote was never actually said by Marie Antoinette and was just more negative propaganda by commoners to paint nobles in an even worse light.

While at times nobles are flawed and can be corrupt, quoting the French Revolution is probably the worst comparison since all sides ended up being very vicious and corrupt. Especially if you look at the time a mob of commoners stormed the prison holding noble families and slaughtered them all, women and children included. Or would you say even the women and children of noble families deserved it?

History lesson aside.

This is a fantasy genre yo. Why so serious?
I do, actually, and you'll note I never mentioned her name in my previous comment. Yes, she did not say this (according to Rousseau, some other princess supposedly did, though it may well have been fake), but it has since become a symbol for the divide between nobles and commoners, which IS a real thing, even if the quote itself isn't.

And anyway, I don't think all sides being corrupt during the French Revolution is a particularly important counterpoint. My point is that nobles were not in any way special. They were no better than regular people and just happened to be born in nobility. Which goes entirely against the concept of nobility as this class of well-meaning betters who kindly rule over the lowly peasants. They weren't.

And I'm really not keen on this manga pretending otherwise. Nor on the fact that several readers here seem to be genuinely enchanted with this lady, even though she can't stop reminding everyone of her status for more than a minute.
 
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I do, actually, and you'll note I never mentioned her name in my previous comment. Yes, she did not say this (according to Rousseau, some other princess supposedly did, though it may well have been fake), but it has since become a symbol for the divide between nobles and commoners, which IS a real thing, even if the quote itself isn't.

And anyway, I don't think all sides being corrupt during the French Revolution is a particularly important counterpoint. My point is that nobles were not in any way special. They were no better than regular people and just happened to be born in nobility. Which goes entirely against the concept of nobility as this class of well-meaning betters who kindly rule over the lowly peasants. They weren't.

And I'm really not keen on this manga pretending otherwise. Nor on the fact that several readers here seem to be genuinely enchanted with this lady, even though she can't stop reminding everyone of her status for more than a minute.
People are enamored with her because she acts as she is supposed to with the ideal of Noblesse Oblige.

Putting her country and the people first isn't easy since people are very human. Systems become corrupt over time naturally (like how Marie was married into a system that was hard to redeem and her husband had no idea what he was doing most of the time, swayed and indulging in the corruption).

Status is everything ad they said and the high school is a microcosm of it. She throws around her status because that is tied to her future responsibilities which is first and foremost.

In future chapters her direct contrast is Orva, who neglects his fiance for the Saint and also is terrible at/neglects his duties when he is supposed to be the head of the house.

Seraphina however is actively communicating to the same goal as the prince, to lead the country, and they both work together to find those that want to dearabilize the palace by spreading rumors and supporting Aini as the queen despite her education and social skills being lacking to the point of causing scandal.

Its an idealistic representation of how nobles should act and even realistic of how they should behave when an interloper tries to inject themselves into this sort of world.
 
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It's cool that they are making the "villainess" act rational and all, but if you look at the bigger picture, it looks like the people around the "heroine" are actually enabling her to act the way she is. She is becoming popular for acting without regard for rank. The fact she has followers means there are people out there who are not entirely happy with the current system. Any ruler worth their salt would be aware of such things. Instead, the three villainesses gather the male characters along with the heroine, and they proceed to roast her and tell her how childish she is being, while at the same time the prince comes forward and tells her she is nothing but an interesting animal to him? Isn't that a bit mean? Couldn't one of them talk to her and actually explain how things work (and no, don't let the bookworm ROBOT girl do it, she sucks at being human, if that isn't obvious by now, it will be enforced later once we get to her arc). All I'm saying is that this really looks like a bunch of privileged rich kids picking on an ignorant kid who still hasn't realized how demanding noble society is, after she's been enabled by those around her to believe that.
 

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