Aldo no Isekai Tensei - Vol. 2 Ch. 8 - Condensed Ray

[tremor3258]

Nuke the estate, sending them on a combat mission shortly thereafter... How much of the magical forest do they want left?

Mom thought fast to her credit and showcased a lot of spells.

 

[Sebfolgero]

Page 6 seems to be lacking a word. "She’s got beautiful, that sparkles in a gray hue,"

 

[TheMossyCobble]

When you try to cast magic, but rediscover the properties of nuclear fusion.

Gee, I wonder what happens when I try to harness the power of nuclear fusion at my fingertips!

The humble and ever-present kamekameha:

 

[Psychronia]

nobody puts the 11 year old to marry the 10 year old with a 40 year old soul. the fact that poor MC is oblivious to the girl liking him while the mother and twin brother see/ know about it, makes the "old man" even more of an idiot / innocent b@st@rd. and let's not forget we used to be made into "adults" much sooner. in case of women, as soon as they bled. was it a good thing? probably not. at least women back then matured unlike todays women...

I have no idea what you said.

900 years old loli baba have their body experience 900 years of growth even its slow. to the same as human loli with 900 years old soul.

This is an argument for mental age standards.

waiting ideal partner to ideal age also have limitations, the fertility.

what if 40 years old man reincarnated in 1 years old baby and his love is 40 years old lady.
by the time he reach 18, that lady is already 58.

If you're going to argue with physical bodies, a 1 year old baby is not going to have the brain chemistry to fall in love at all.
Even discounting that, at that point I'm just going to say they should either work it out with the age gap or too bad and the love wasn't meant to be.

Having children is also not a requirement for love. If one of the parties absolutely needs or wants a child, then that's just another reason besides age differences they're not a good fit.

or if that girl is love with your, a 5 years old boy and wait together until she adult, how old will she need to make it fine to be married to you, for example, Aldo here. he technically not grooming her, its her wanting him.

If she wants him at 5 years old, that is also pedophilia.

so if 90 adult to 30 adult is fine as physical they are 30, by that logic, if Aldo is 60 but physical 20 too can married to 20 years old Ashella as they because both consenting adult.

That would be the concession development if it happens at all. Aldo himself is just innocently being himself and these romances aren't strictly "bad", but I think it's valid to at least side eye the author for writing a romance where an adult's mature attitude wins the love of a child that eventually becomes his love interest.

its hard to accuse grooming because 10 years old mature kids can groom others and 20 years old immature adult can be groomed by younger mature counterpart.

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psychopathic child with 200IQ can groom and manipulate immature adult with 80IQ. its rare but its happen.

the line between biology and mental capabilities are not parallel.

This was just a weird tangent to go on. I truly do not care what else is technically grooming and also bad. This conversation about specifically an adult in a child's body having a romance with someone a similar physical age.
The fact is that neither Aldo nor Ashella are not any of those things you're describing, so all bringing this up does is muddy the conversation.

so the safest option is to go with physical until it proven otherwise.

I don't agree. That assumes a physical standard default when a mental standard default might be just as valid. And it's also intellectual laziness.
We don't have to argue about this, but if we're engaging at all, we shouldn't quit just because it's hard.

how about if you interested in her mental and intellectual instead of her body like in Accendences of Bookworm?

you interested in her because she is adult and her mind and attitude what make you desire her. would that make you a pedo?

so if you interested in 900 loli baba because you attracted to her loli body, not her mind then its not Pedo?

pursuing someone for they mind vs body.

If you're not attracted to them, then you can just have a close friendship with them. If you are and they're not an adult, then yeah it's still pedophilia. By definition "child loving".
People can have a wide array of relationships besides romance with people they enjoy intellectually interacting with.

I have no idea how you arrived at the loli baba conclusion.

so if you know 8 years old girl reincarnated into body 30 years old lady, and you wanted her because her body, is that pedo or not? so you wanted her because mentally she is a child so you can groom her to obey you and depends on you is not pedo because its 30 years old body?

ability to groom depends on someone mental capabilities and Pedo are depends on attraction towards child body.

normal,it goes side by sides, but for reincarnation with memories, its mutually exclusive.

Obviously an adult with a child's body remains vulnerable and so trying to initiate romance or intimacy with them for their is immoral. Though I assume it's called something other than pedophilia.

It's definitely not mutually exclusive though, even if reincarnation plots complicate things, because that only happens when it's a reincarnated child that encounters an adult love interest before they've grown up. The entire point of this argument is that someone in a child's body interacting with another child is in a position to tick both boxes.

To be clear, Aldo has done nothing wrong, nor has Ashella. If anything happens, since Aldo didn't mean to do anything to seduce her, it's the author who created the circumstances for these things to fall in place that I would criticize.
But once again, I don't see how this part of your argument applies in this case.

 

[WonderingSFaiz]

So what he needs to do is learn several compression level, find the fastest charge time and enough damage, then learn to increase the amount he can use per hand, then he achieve Ki Blast

 

[Acolytus]

That ain't really fair to the mother since it's more of Aldo being unique and losing control of his mana due to the strength/complexity of his spell. I mean the other 2 looks really capable under her guidance.

She already knows he is reckless when it comes to magic. You'd think she would be extra careful when making him practice, rather than going "here, kid who already shot himself in the foot previously, take this loaded gun and shoot as much as you want, it's all okay".

 

[EritoProxy]

She already knows he is reckless when it comes to magic. You'd think she would be extra careful when making him practice, rather than going "here, kid who already shot himself in the foot previously, take this loaded gun and shoot as much as you want, it's all okay".

But how can she even be extra careful aside from giving warnings and precautions and it's been 5 years, it's safe to assume they were ALWAYS taught safety first and there weren't anymore accidents until now. She can't interfere when he's in the middle of casting cause it could distract him and just make it worse. And by looking in their eyes and common sense, who would expect a young boy, no matter how talented they are, to create a death ray. Plus Aldo is mentally more mature than his physical age, he more than anyone would want to be careful, especially when around family.

 

[77BLc9JwJGpLVARkamJx]

nuts magic so hard but the mana keeps draining.

 

[Akudia94]

I have no idea what you said.

This is an argument for mental age standards.

If you're going to argue with physical bodies, a 1 year old baby is not going to have the brain chemistry to fall in love at all.
Even discounting that, at that point I'm just going to say they should either work it out with the age gap or too bad and the love wasn't meant to be.

Having children is also not a requirement for love. If one of the parties absolutely needs or wants a child, then that's just another reason besides age differences they're not a good fit.

with that logic, someone reincarnated as 10 years old bodies also not going to have brain chemistry to fully understand love at all.

the are reincarnation that body affects mind and there is one not.

there is MC where he cannot help to reach like child because that child body and brain chemistry affect his judgement.

and then there is MC where even in babies body could process the situation but only their mouth that can speak it out.


i'm interested when you mentioned brain chemistry. i what point we can argue it their body affecting their mind thus it not Pedo or not.

because naturally, child feel more comfortable between someone around their age.

could we said some 30 years old in 10 years old body feel attracted to 10 girl because that body brain chemistry affecting his judgement?

there is MC where he aware that he become a baby and felt weird to suck up a breast of his biological mother of that new body.
then there is MC where he felt he can't control his body and cry uncontrollably or losing control his bowel and shit like a baby.

someone on adult body can be mentally child if their brain chemistry is a mess.

there is old people suffering dementia and their mind revert back to child like as they can't fully control what their body told them so. because like what you said, brain chemistry.

an adult in teenager body could act like teenager when the hormones fired up and messed up their judgement in some reincarnated story, and some not even affecting them.

so can we considered that the one unable to control what their biology and brain chemistry is not pedo because it a natural force that make them like that?

or they not? because surely when their child body grew up and stabilized, they are attracted to adult like normal person but when they are child body, that body compel them to do so.

i don't know about you but from my experience. when a was a child, i had crush to girl in my primary school. not to teenager or adult.

but when i grew up as teenager, i felt i more attracted to my classmate rather than primary school girl or adult lady.

an as i am adult now, i only attracted to adult and felt disgusted to even felt attracted to teenager or child.

people said it because mind get mature, but biology also affecting that maturity.

there is special kind people that never grew adult mind because of mutation during pregnancy and born with defects. their brain chemistry remains the same even the body grew so they unable to mature their mind as normally as they incapable to do so.

so how much we can tell that aldo physical body affecting his judgement because the same reason, his brain chemistry affecting is judgement?

 

[NutzYaboku77]

No way this is a ten year old 💀

Erm.. 12 Akchually 🤓. She's 2 years older. Still doesn't make sense.

 

[Solipsist]

MC is really pissing me off.
TLDR: Can't get off his own dick. His immediate thought when something bad happens, is: "people will think I'm such a scawy monster! Oh woe be my power, my sins!"

Get off your own dick you're riding.... I thought he was worried what they'd think of him, because he tried creating a spell and utterly failed it, so he feared being a loser. Instead, he thought "they'd fear me, reject my power, I'm the protagonist of the tragedy that is Antigone"
It really comes across as if there's something missing in this adaptation, and I haven't read the original work. It's just so disjointed, it's sad. This is legitimately a fun read, OTHER THAN the occassional moment where the MC thinks he's the center of the universe.

 

[Al_Azif]

Hmmm, yes the first thing you think of when wanting the power to protect someone is a giant sun powered laser.

 

[Kanade0021]

ray gun!

 

[kosaya]

No way this is a ten year old 💀

Isn't she twelve? i think they mentioned that she's two years older

 

[SardonicJester]

This is Chapter 24 of the web novel. But novel is slightly different. And overall, the novel is rather weak.

 

[Psychronia]

with that logic, someone reincarnated as 10 years old bodies also not going to have brain chemistry to fully understand love at all.
the are reincarnation that body affects mind and there is one not.

That was by your logic. You're the one with a position of physical over mental.

i'm interested when you mentioned brain chemistry. i what point we can argue it their body affecting their mind thus it not Pedo or not.
because naturally, child feel more comfortable between someone around their age.
could we said some 30 years old in 10 years old body feel attracted to 10 girl because that body brain chemistry affecting his judgement?
(...)
So can we considered that the one unable to control what their biology and brain chemistry is not pedo because it a natural force that make them like that?
(...)
i don't know about you but from my experience. when a was a child, i had crush to girl in my primary school. not to teenager or adult.
but when i grew up as teenager, i felt i more attracted to my classmate rather than primary school girl or adult lady.

Being comfortable around people your own age or in fact any age is not the same as a -philia. The term is specifically about physical attraction, which I'm pretty sure children don't strongly feel until at least a bit into puberty. If you feel actually attracted to a child, then you're still a pedo.
Things like crushes are simply different, but also I'm pretty sure they're tied to social dynamics as a part of experiencing life and not the age of brain chemistry. Adults can get crushes too.

so how much we can tell that aldo physical body affecting his judgement because the same reason, his brain chemistry affecting is judgement?

Once again, irrelevant because Aldo himself isn't doing anything to even feel shady about. The author is presumably still a grown adult and they're the one arranging for the dynamic.

 

[Doomer]

wasn't it illegal for kids to use magic? why is she telling them to reveal themselves to the world? are they old enough for it to be legal now?

 

[Akudia94]

Being comfortable around people your own age or in fact any age is not the same as a -philia. The term is specifically about physical attraction, which I'm pretty sure children don't strongly feel until at least a bit into puberty. If you feel actually attracted to a child, then you're still a pedo.
Things like crushes are simply different, but also I'm pretty sure they're tied to social dynamics as a part of experiencing life and not the age of brain chemistry. Adults can get crushes too.

Teenager are mostly already reach puberty.

if normally teenager have physical attraction to other teenager is normal things.

as they grew up and still attracted to some closes to their ages, ie, now an adult instead of teenager.

so adult in teenager body attract to teenager then when the body grew up is not Pedo as when his body grew up as adult, now they looking for a partner that close to their body ages.

so liking the girl/boy because you are in teenager body that normal what is physical attraction. like you said, you felt comfortable enough to fall in love with them because around people of your own ages.(physical)

so when that boy/girl grew up as adult, and you grew up as adults, you still comfortable with them as they are around of your age now(adult)

unless you felt like they changes as they no longer teenager then thats is pedo.

the thing about Pedophilia is, when the target grew beyond specific ages, they no longer feel attraction towards that boy/girl anymore. because their body no longer child.

so someone 30 in 16 years old body are not pedo for being attracted to 16 years old boy/girl.

because when he/she grew up to 25 yeas adult, they still attracted to boy/girl now grew up together as 25 years adult.

A Pedo would find another child/target because their current target already not longer child like. they are attracted to child like body.

you might say its predatory, but it not a pedo when you still like that girl/boy even after they grew up as adult and even matured.

a man in love to 16 years old girl. then after 20 years, he still seeking that girl, now 36 years old adult. that predatory as he like her starting when she not yet mature. but not Pedo as even she over "Ripe" , he still pursue her.

a man liking 16 years old girl because of her body. after 10 years, that girl become 16 years adult, so now he no longer have taste for her. he looking at another 16 years old girl that fit "child" category.

now that's is Pedo.
Pedo is not a phase where you like it when they are child and still like it when they no longer child. Pedo always attracted to Child feature this when the target grew old enough, they will discard it as it no longer for their taste. its already expired.

preorder is not pedo but more like predatory because you wanted to groom the one you like to be your ideal woman/man for you when they are adult and the rest of their life to love and depends on you. they manipulative because they view the target as partner instead a child.

 

[Psychronia]

(...)

I'm just gonna say it.

Your responses are too long-winded and exhausting to read through when they're mostly making up scenarios to repeat the same statement that may not even be relevant several times.

I'm generally up for discussion and debate, but the effort of having to pick out your point isn't worth most of the ideas they're bringing to the discussion.

 

[Carn109]

Damn pocket nuke
also isnt it a bit quick to be sending 10 yr olds to combat