Anata ga Shitekurenakute mo - Vol. 3 Ch. 19

[beazacha]

I can kinda of sympathizing with the "main" couple for various reasons:

- divorce in Japan is social frowned upon on a higher level to you just ball out
- both partners are fully aware of their shitty behavior and ignore it
- they recently started to talk and acknowledge their feelings so who knows how long until they bite the bullet
- both want a family and a loving home, but they're also at an age you can't just jump into relationships without thinking twice... in a sense their spouses are just roommates.



Honestly screw cheaters, but If a couple with the same conditions existed irl (including obviously being Japanese on a big city) I don't think I would be able to judge them so black&white either, life is complicated.

 

[onionskins]

@xinneth Holy shit 80 chapters. Can you give me some spoilers?

 

[practicallyuseful]

she doesn't get my sympathy. While she may be getting overworked, she never truly said words like "Thank you" or "I love you".
It doesn't take more than a couple seconds to say that and you can't expect me to believe she's never had time for that

 

[yoshiii]

ohhhh

 

[josepiza3008]

This happens when no have communication

 

[Tsuki09]

@nikapikapika
While I agree that emotionally cheating your partner is bad, is not just as bad as physically doing it. When you physically cheat on your partner you can put not only yourself but also your partner at risk of getting an STD, of course that's not the case in this story as Yoshino and her husband aren't doing it but in others cases it can happen.

 

[starlightcitypro]

He doesn't care anymore.

There's a certain feeling of power that comes with the moment in a dying relationship when you stop giving a damn. This is how Makoto feels right now.

 

[kiero13]

@practicallyuseful
Would that be enough for him to cheat though? She's at fault yes but makoto's also at fault for thinking his past will be healed by getting married to her.

 

[Ty_next]

@practicallyuseful agree, I don't like the idea of cheating but what makoto's wife do is wrong too and she knows too. She never show appreciation nor affection to makoto. No wonder if in the end, he felt out of love

 

[sleepyknight]

very hype for the long and drawn out implosion of this relationship also peep kaede's boss using her competence as an excuse to saddle her with extra responsibilities, the shitheelery of it all

 

[practicallyuseful]

@kiero13
You could say they're both at fault.
I'm just mad at her for not even TRYING when he gave so many chances. She could've just opened her damn mouth and said something other than " I'm sorry, but I'm busy"
I mean he was giving all the signs. I'm not okay with cheating in general, but in this case I can understand

 

[sakuchu]

Unfortunately, this couple's issue is communication. Which is a realistic problem that I've seen absolutely destroy couples.

 

[xinneth]

@onionskins

Spoiler

I searched again and i am not sure if its 40 something chapters devided in 2 or 80 full chapters. I think its 40 something. but from the raws that I saw 40 chapters and the fl is still trying to save her marrige with yoh-chan but she still has feelings for niina-san. around chap 24 or something they go to a hotspring through the company and something happened beween them but they don't go all the way bcause the FL wants to do it with yoh chan or something...

still I am not completely sure since to read the chapters I have to pay and I don't really now japanese. what I know is from using google translator. I do know that she still likes niina-san.

 

[gomichandesu]

@Tsuki09 mmm I disagree. Yes STDs and the like are a real issue, but I still think emotional cheating is just as damaging. Psychological damage is just as harmful as physical.
Like, half of STD's are curable (and of the incurable ones two can be vaccinated against -hpv and hep b-, another -herpes- most people already have and is frankly overhyped, and then theres HIV which is still the worst to have but it's hardly the death sentence it was in the 80's. Plus, with HIV science has come along to even minimize spread if you're properly medicated for it.) Not that anyone's jumping for joy to get any STD or anything, but they really do have a harsh stigma and aren't as bad as people think with modern medicine.
The psychological trauma from being betrayed like that is for life though. Yeah you learn to cope with it, but it never truly goes away and it comes out in your future relationships as well. It's always there looming in the back of your mind whether you know it's irrational or not. Nobody could be cheating in the relationship, but once you've been cheated on in the past you always have those whispers in the back of your mind "what if", that in order to have a healthy relationship you just have to learn to ignore.

Thats why I think they're pretty equal in terms of harm at least. If you catch an incurable STD, it sucks and you have to learn to live with it. But same applies to the psychological damage. It's there forever and you have to learn to deal with it.
(But also, since most people still don't want to acknowledge mental health, your insurance is far more likely to cover your STD. It's not gonna cover your therapy though lol, you just gotta figure that shit out yourself)

 

[AnacondaHL]

classic "saying nothing != everything is ok" drama scenario blooming quite nicely.

 

[Tsuki09]

@gomichandesu
I disagree with you. I don't know where're you from and I'm not going to ask you either but from where I'm from treatment cost for STDs are sky-high and the insurance you get at work are pretty much a joke that would not even close cover for it and a personal one would be too expensive for a regular worker so yeah I'd rather deal with the emotional betrayal that I would get it over at some point than getting an STD just because my partner decided that cheating was easier than a break up.

 

[gomichandesu]

@Tsuki09
different mindsets then. I just know what poor mental health is like and to have a traumatic psychological experience, it's rough and forever and fucks up a lot of shit way down the line. You think you could just "get over it" but you really don't. Psychological trauma stays with you forever, till you die. You cope with it, but it's always there. Just when you think you're past it it'll rear its ugly head up again. I just put that out there because I see way too often people downplay mental health over physical health, as if mental illness and mental health is "easy" to get around when it's not.

I'm not saying I'd rather have an STD, but I'm saying getting an STD and dealing with trauma are equally bad for me. You can at least get SOME assistance with physical ailments. You get nothing for mental health, because nobody thinks it's a "real" thing to deal with.

 

[weebdonny]

Oh no

 

[Arth_RSachet]

Damn, that page 15 hit hard. That attitude she had is so relatable to me and it kinda huts to see, but I like how she seems to reconise her mistakes. I hope she can grow as a person and talk to Makoto to save their relationship or something.

 

[Fyre_Engyn]

He asked her to spend time with him. She put her job first. When she just could of asked for that day off for their anniversary. Then she made him feel guilty about becoming Intimate. Being in a marriage is all about balance.