Bar Flowers - Vol. 2 Ch. 15

[AVTE]

wow, toootally didn't see this one coming...lol. I usually hate NTR but honestly can't be mad about this one since he already rejected her.

It's really not NTR lets be real cause her and the manager is NOT in a relationship they strictly in work relationship as far as we can see currently so I dont think it would be classified as NTR though a lot of doujin sites be attaching NTR tags to other doujins when those doujins are not NTR . This is just my opinion thoguh no hard feelings i get what u mean tho lol.

 

[AVTE]

Her ahegao face looked pretty good for a sex scene in a manga, 10 out of 10 for the author and artist for this one tho.

 

[vmamoru]

idk I don't feel any discomfort abt this girl, I already don't like her since few chapters ago, blonde girl has the right personality for me tho, it's possible she's still pure as well, the other girls like the glasses has that nope nope aura around her, and the hyperactive girl is out of question

Spoiler: welll

that why kaede won by the end.. and he officially dating her by end of series

She was raped, what the fuck are you talking about?

she know how abusing he its but decide to have one side heartbroken because she not even want verify what she hear from other girl...and think purposely fall in her bf trap its a good choice ...and actually consider to meet him again ..bruh

Spoiler: that why

i glad MC didnt pick her and choose the best women

 

[vmamoru]

It's really not NTR lets be real cause her and the manager is NOT in a relationship they strictly in work relationship as far as we can see currently so I dont think it would be classified as NTR though a lot of doujin sites be attaching NTR tags to other doujins when those doujins are not NTR . This is just my opinion thoguh no hard feelings i get what u mean tho lol.

technically.. its NTR...

not on MC side but by her side POV...

 

[arsondaydream]

She's really getting what she deserved. Who the FUCK drink alcohol with an obviously toxic ex and then have sex with them? Are you retarded? Oh wait, she IS retarded!

No one who is "kindhearted" would abuse you and mock you while they are in a relationship with you. I learned that shit in grade school. What the fuck woman? Speak to the bar owner ffs. He looks like he knows a thing or two about self defense and self respect

While it is obvious that her coping is mischievous (whatever you say), it cannot be dismissed that her ex drugged her first and in fact raped her.

 

[Shamanfox]

She's really getting what she deserved. Who the FUCK drink alcohol with an obviously toxic ex and then have sex with them? Are you retarded? Oh wait, she IS retarded!

No one who is "kindhearted" would abuse you and mock you while they are in a relationship with you. I learned that shit in grade school. What the fuck woman? Speak to the bar owner ffs. He looks like he knows a thing or two about self defense and self respect.

You’ve never heard of Stockholm-syndrome?

Also, just because he was abuse doesn’t mean that it would be obvious that he would be spiking drinks. That’s such a leap in thinking. She was feeling down/depressed which can make anyone make questionable decisions, and that guy managed to take advantage of it.
Also, when you wake up from being spiked you would still be groggy and not able to make proper decisions, so saying “she should’ve refused harder” is not a realistic take in such situation…

I really can’t see why we are victim blaming the girl in this situation.

 

[JoJoBar]

je vais dire le n-word. je vais tous casser. faut le castrer
and apparently she will get no ounce of respect later. fuck man, bossman said shit about the girl having to remain untouched but this shit happened and the ex will get away with it. as i wrecked my room i gotta clean it, fix it and apologize to the landlord, he was pissed.
imma still read that shit tho so i'll tell ya guys when the landlord will kick me out ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[pewell]

She's really getting what she deserved. Who the FUCK drink alcohol with an obviously toxic ex and then have sex with them? Are you retarded? Oh wait, she IS retarded!

No one who is "kindhearted" would abuse you and mock you while they are in a relationship with you. I learned that shit in grade school. What the fuck woman? Speak to the bar owner ffs. He looks like he knows a thing or two about self defense and self respect.

she was raped you retard

 

[-musouka-]

The amount of victim blaming in the comments...that tracks given the state of the western world.

 

[lucidnyxx]

Bro wtf is wrong with her? She got drugged and then let her toxic ex do anything he wanted?

 

[TheEjaculator]

While it is obvious that her coping is mischievous (whatever you say), it cannot be dismissed that her ex drugged her first and in fact raped her.

You’ve never heard of Stockholm-syndrome?

Also, just because he was abuse doesn’t mean that it would be obvious that he would be spiking drinks. That’s such a leap in thinking. She was feeling down/depressed which can make anyone make questionable decisions, and that guy managed to take advantage of it.
Also, when you wake up from being spiked you would still be groggy and not able to make proper decisions, so saying “she should’ve refused harder” is not a realistic take in such situation…

I really can’t see why we are victim blaming the girl in this situation.

we don't really know for sure that he put something in her drink, she could've just drank until she blacked out. I am also kind of conflicted if this should even be considered rape. Sure it started like it, but she was literally asking him to fuck her hard in the mid point. No one is saying "she should've refused harder", she was literally asking for it. Even in her inner monologue she was saying she decided to let him fuck her so she would forget. And let's be real, she is completely retarded. There is no way someone sane would even entertain the thought of sitting down with a guy she knows treated her like shit, only used her for sex because he apologized and is apparently "not a bad person at heart" lol. And she didn't just sit down with him, she got black out drunk. In my eyes this was clearly her decision to do anything to forget.

 

[ItsHax]

I will give author 3 chapters after that i will drop or keep reading this

 

[Shamanfox]

we don't really know for sure that he put something in her drink, she could've just drank until she blacked out. I am also kind of conflicted if this should even be considered rape. Sure it started like it, but she was literally asking him to fuck her hard in the mid point. No one is saying "she should've refused harder", she was literally asking for it. Even in her inner monologue she was saying she decided to let him fuck her so she would forget. And let's be real, she is completely retarded. There is no way someone sane would even entertain the thought of sitting down with a guy she knows treated her like shit, only used her for sex because he apologized and is apparently "not a bad person at heart" lol. And she didn't just sit down with him, she got black out drunk. In my eyes this was clearly her decision to do anything to forget.

What is there to be conflicted about?! Anyone forcing themselves on someone that is blackout drunk (either from being spiked or too many drinks) is considered rape. She even says “No” and “Stop” in the beginning, but he continues, which further solidifies that it is rape.

I’m appalled that there are so many commenting that it’s either the girls fault or that this wouldn’t be considered rape.

 

[Nyaaa]

What is there to be conflicted about?! Anyone forcing themselves on someone that is blackout drunk (either from being spiked or too many drinks) is considered rape. She even says “No” and “Stop” in the beginning, but he continues, which further solidifies that it is rape.

I’m appalled that there are so many commenting that it’s either the girls fault or that this wouldn’t be considered rape.

Are you retarded? Two things can be true at once. She's BOTH a victim and a retard in this situation.

"OoOoh look I am drinking with an abuser~ Oh no who would've guessed that I would be abused by the abuser I am drinking with"

No shit you'd get abused. You are drinking with an abuser. The least you could do is drinking in an environment that minimizes the chance of someone abusing you. It's basic self preservation tech.

 

[Nyaaa]

she was raped you retard

And how did she got raped? Did she meet an unfortunate and unexpected situation? Did she suddenly get attacked while walking? Did someone break into her home while she's sleeping?

No. She willingly drinks with a known abuser until she's blackout drunk, then got raped. In which she also stated that she actually consented to the sex in a monologue. So it's not really rape. It's sex that she regret after the fact because she realized what she had done is stupid retarded.

Sure, she is a victim of abuse here. Got taken advantage of by an abuser. But she is also an absolute big fucking RETARD for willingly putting herself in that situation by drinking til blackout drunk with a known abuser.

Being a victim does not wholly justify your stupid self destructing decisions that led to yourself becoming a victim. While usually the blame fully lies within those that made you a victim, there are cases where a minority of the blame also lies within the victim. Cases such as this one.

You don't get to be surprised that you got robbed, when you are walking in an area of town that are known to be full of robbers. You don't get to be surprised that you'd get raped inside a rapist's house when you willingly went into said house knowing that it's a rapist's.

In an unfortunate and unexpected situation, the victim IS blameless. But in a situation where the victim made a self destructing choice, some fault falls under the victim's hand.

 

[Nyaaa]

What is there to be conflicted about?! Anyone forcing themselves on someone that is blackout drunk (either from being spiked or too many drinks) is considered rape. She even says “No” and “Stop” in the beginning, but he continues, which further solidifies that it is rape.

I’m appalled that there are so many commenting that it’s either the girls fault or that this wouldn’t be considered rape.

Man, it seems people has really lost the ability to judge a situation objectively, without getting blinded by emotions. And this is just a fictional situation, where it's not real.

There is one thing here to be conflicted about. It's the fact that before any of the abuse happening, she willingly threw herself in a situation where she can easily get abused. No self preservation instinct, basically. You don't get to drink until blackout drunk with a known abuser, and then get surprised that said abuser would abuse you. If you didn't know, then you're blameless. But she knew that he was an abuser. Yet she drank with him anyway. She made a self destructive choice. She's both a victim and a retard, in this situation.

And no. Having a broken heart and being super sad does not excuse you making a self destructive choice. It makes it understandable, but it does not excuse it.

 

[TheEjaculator]

What is there to be conflicted about?! Anyone forcing themselves on someone that is blackout drunk (either from being spiked or too many drinks) is considered rape. She even says “No” and “Stop” in the beginning, but he continues, which further solidifies that it is rape.

I’m appalled that there are so many commenting that it’s either the girls fault or that this wouldn’t be considered rape.

are you just conveniently going to ignore the part where she asked him to "fuck her till she breaks" and her inner monologue where she said she is alright with it?

 

[Arcverson]

up until this chapter... i very sure people should know which girl are actually the best choice for MC


if you want know who the end winner and become his official gf

Spoiler: the answer its

its kaede .. he will properly confess at her by chapter 38

Spoiler

Absolutely trash, Aoi is CLEARLY the best and most attractive girl, this author must be GAY for not making her win, The winner looks like a man, the other girl is a hoe with mental issues, and the rest is irrelevant and forgettable

DROPPED THIS GARBAGE

 

[Kokops]

Y'all so soft dawg it's basically not a NTR cause in the beginning the MC is not like/love this girl

Also i this the MC in the end not pick the pony tail girl i think the blonde one

 

[Shamanfox]

are you just conveniently going to ignore the part where she asked him to "fuck her till she breaks" and her inner monologue where she said she is alright with it?

That doesn’t matter since it won’t change the fact that she got raped. With your logic it’s fine to rape someone if they eventually stop resisting the said rape…

To me it looks more like you are conveniently ignoring her blackout and her resisting the assault in an attempt to justify it as “not rape”.