Beatrice - Vol. 1 Ch. 26

[Pocky8]

Ah, lazy writing! Telling us he's nice when we've only seen 1 decent act from him (not a good or heroic act, just a decent one which should've been natural!) and not really showing us. Unbelievable.

And he stupid.
Why would anyone ever think that an empire with vast territories, conquered kingdoms and different cultures/languages will be always peaceful?

Ah, sorry, all these things lessen the enjoyment of the story. I'm still teetering on the edge whether I should drop this. I'm not that curious, just a little bit. Because Chloe, with all her naivety and annoying characteristics, is still likeable and so I want some good stuff to happen to her. But that isn't really enough to save the story, is it?

 

[Prieszt]

I agree with @Pocky8 though i cant really call this a lazy writing. This manhwa just lack details and scenes to describe how kind he is.

 

[Agent-KI7KO]

Pretty sure Archduke paid off those underlings to say nice things while he flexed.

 

[roxanneayy]

@Goldenzeal Never said he wasn't bad. I was more referring to the big hate people seem to have with that one specific act (killing her family).

I wouldn't just write them off as simple defenseless prisoners (can't clearly remember the beginnings of this manhwa at this point though so maybe I've just forgotten?) From my memory and how I perceived it, they were prisoners of war and despite being defenseless, they were still people who couldn't be trusted (and were useless to him). Killing them is something that comes with the territory of 'war'. For argument's sake, let's say he did it for fun- killing them. Well, that's also in the territory of 'war', especially during these times/this setting. There are crazy people within the ranks because there are crazy people in this world. lol
War has no morality, imo.

He's a killer. I definitely didn't gloss over that fact.

Just a rant... lol to everyone who keep mentioning that she shouldn't like him because of what he did to her family.

Spoiler

Like I said, would rather we didn't have a killer ML but I started reading this knowing that the ML would be like that.

Didn't we all? lol

Which is my biggest question really. I mean, yeah, he's a hero to his country but he was someone's father/mother/sister/brother's -etc, you get my point- killer, to someone else. Whether they were soldiers he was striking down or collateral damage, his character is a killer and we all knew that. There's no going around 'killing' especially since he is a knight- the best of the best. So, why was it that specifically, we are so focused on Beatrice's family?

Him killing people is a turn-off, period whether for the good of his people or not.
But the whole point, I think, is that Beatrice is seeing him in a different light. I think the execution could do better in this regard so that people like myself aren't so disatisfied with how he's being 'redeemed' through Chloe's eyes. Also I keep using both her names. lol

 

[Goldenzeal]

@roxanneayy

Being a prisoner of war ( witch she was ) makes you by today's definition a non combatant.
So if you look at it with today's standards he basically executed a civilian.
the girl was executed plain and simple for trying to hide from the people who came to pillige her home, so she didn't really do anything wrong.
Yes she was very much useless to him, but that's why they made everyone into slaves, so being useless in no excuses to kill them.
if it was then everyone including the main character would have been executed.
Also the girl was his (former ? ) fiance so the feeling i got was that he just killed her because he dislikes her.
The fact he killed her where she stood instead of publicly executing her like he first said after she insulted him just strengthens his argument.

But again thats with todays standards, in more medival times it was not uncommon to execute kings and rulers, but to kill a princess who were seen as political bargaining chips was still frowned upon.
Killing people for fun and nobles mistreating peasants have greatly been exaggerated in this kind of medieval stories, it was literally the nobles job to take care of the people for the benefit of the king.
The fact the MC is still alive also proves that they dident see the need to kill off the other princesses so again, he just killed her because he personally disliked her under the excuse of that she was hiding.

So yeah, the people who hold the fact he executed her former family have pretty solid grounds to dislike him.
Even if you ignore killing the king he still treated them with no respect whatsoever.

As for her possibly starting to like him... Its made pretty clear that she never really liked being a princsess by the fact that she thought being a slave was the best time of her life.
( see chapter 2 for pretty much everything above )
So she might not actually hold the fact he killed them against him as much as some people do, She is simply scared of him because he might still consider her a princess even if she doesn't do so herself.
both the MC and the ML have a lot of psychological issues regardless what way you spin it, but it's also why a lot of people ( like me ) read this story in the first place as it makes for an interesting story just like you said.

 

[Uyangaa565]

why am i still here??
i guess the drawing style is good.. idk

 

[rlackbabbit]

"Archduke, it is Evan. I heard you were looking for me" - For him to summon me to his quarters, I wonder what it could be?

Evan my boy, "why?", it's to serve your archduke of course. The night is cold and the bed needs warming. You'll do :3

 

[pichimocha]

Gurl did u forget how he murdered your sister?

 

[Hollow7F]

bitch no.... just coz someone has a good side or treats everyone right it doesnt make him a good person, a bunch of fucking pedophiles have been pillars of their community and shit, but they were still fucking pedophiles!

sure for the people below him hes a good leader and shit, but she fucking knows how he treats his ''enemies'' so fuck that ''maybe hes good'', hes good to his ppl ur not, not at least at this point

 

[HOOfan_1]

He didn't just kill the royal family they were murdering the servants too...
Did you forget him saying, take as many servants as you can as slaves and kill the rest?

This guy has about as much good in him as Pol Pot

 

[desdes1996]

So I guess they resolved the whole "murdered all the princesses and maid and wanted me killed" issue by... Saying that behavior is normal? And because he's hot she's not too mad about it? Sorry, I'm out.

 

[RavenWolf]

There seems to be lot of people who don't understand this killing thing. Country where, Beatrice was princess, was enemy of the Empire. The Empire wanted to conquer continent and every ruling royalty are threat that could in future spark rebellion. Royals are symbols which can be used as excuse to overthrow current ruler. You can see this time and again in history (Jacobitism etc.). For conquest it is much safer to just kill whole ruling family. I'm rather surprised they even left her alive. They should have not done it. She is now threat to whole empire. Even if she for herself don't see it or care it. Other people could use her as weapon against empire.

Especially if you look at Japanese, South Korean and Chinese ancient history you can see that it was really common to kill all the enemy households including maids and staff. Sometimes even whole towns where killed. Why to kill maids & staff? Because they are most loyal to royals who they serve. They wouldn't be working in castles otherwise. For conquerors you can't trust those people. What to do with them? I don't say it that it is right thing to do but we simply can't reflect our modern morality to these times and judge them. Especially at Shogun eras 1185 to 1868 killings were pretty common. You have to understand that times like these killing other people didn't make you as 'evil' in eyes of people if they were enemy or criminals.

I just watched The King (Netflix). It is movie about King Henry V. A great king and war hero who won incredible battle against French. Whole country celebrated his victory and he was seen as good king. Yet he execute every french wounded and prisoner who surrendered. Whole french army was butchered down to the prince.

This whole thing reflects also nicely to medieval era criminal system. It was really rare that criminal would get caught. There was no fingerprints, cameras or know-how to catch criminals. Because this only way to keep civilization operational was use justice system which was based on fear. If someone did make crime and didn't get caught justice system just prosecuted someone who likely could do it even if that person was innocent. If there was citizens who said that someone did something that was fine to prosecute that person. It was same with witches. Fear was tool to keep people in line and it was only thing that kept countries whole. It was necessity for humanity. Most importantly sometimes whole families was put to death if someone from family did something. Especially noble houses. If king judged that noble house did something bad then whole house down to infants might be but to jail or death. It wasn't roses for maids and staff either. Of course everything depended of times and countries and rulers. But times at middle ages were brutal!

For me. It seems like people who like to read these Korean based romances doesn't know or understand how things were back in days. Especially in Korea, Japan and China. I see this kind of whine all the time forums like here or other places. It seems like people nowadays are removed from harsh realities of life and don't understand these things. It is like for many electricity comes from outlet and water from tap and they don't understand more. Then they whine these things how horrible these stories are and how these characters should do this and that.

I agree for one thing. Beatrice shouldn't forget who that bastard is. He is her enemy, but if she is wise she can use him as her weapon. Even if she is slave she is still princess and really dangerous. She should never forget that. The Empire seems to forget which is rather silly. If I were "the empire" and if I didn't wanted to kill her. I would have kept her as some sort of slave at palace where she could been watched carefully. Kept her close and as slave rest of her life but if rebellion was coming she should be first one to die even if she didn't have anything to do with it.

 

[RavenWolf]

What would you do if you were to set conquer some medieval kingdom?

 

[harospex]

@berdy who is the worst ML you've ever seen

 

[harospex]

you watch him kill your half-sister, literally splitting her dress (sexual harassment from our beloved duke) before stabbing her
the only reason he didn't behead you is because his boyfriend told him not to
but it's all ok because "he's hot"

stfu he's not even good looking just date the coachman instead </3

 

[SkyPIllarahhh]

UM GOOD PERSON??? Already at that conclusion?!? Bro, she needs to consider bias.

 

[Justashorty]

Gorl he’s a murderer💀 then and again- that might be normal in your society. But I don’t think he’s “a good man”

 

[Mayura-chan]

The women in this manhwa are just...........*FACEPALM*. I actually have more respect of Chloe/Beatrice's half sister who dared to talk back to the damn ML than this bunch of women who adore sadistic men simply because they look good.

 

[idelvice]

Yeah, he is kind, very kind to kill anyone on his sight.

She killed your half sis, girl, with no hesitation. You're just falling in love to a warmonger and a murderer. JEESSAZZZZ..

You're so dumb.

 

[L5cuyi]

Even @RavenWolf , who posted the most thought comment forgot one thing, SHE NEVER LIKED HER LIFE AS A PRINCESS, SHE PREFERS BEING A SLAVE TO BEING A PRINCESS