Bokura no Ai wa Kimochi Warui - Ch. 9

[Gothic_Catalyst]

Thank you for the chapter.

 

[DarkeLourd]

Honestly classmate maybe one of the most normal one.

MC and Remu may have a particular weird kink, but it's not really hurting anyone, while Remu's classmate is being a giant creep trying to project her fantasies on remu, forcing her into some fictional position she cooked up herself, hence interfering with someone elses life. 😐

"Normal" is a word with such nebulous meaning that it really depends on how you define it. Niji's behavior/desires obviously have great potential for harm, but controlling behavior towards the object of your romantic/sexual desire unfortunately doesn't seem to be all that uncommon. It's something you hear about more often than what the other girls in the manga are dealing with, at least. So depending on whether you define "normal" by how common something is or by how disruptive it is, you would end up with completely different opinions on how "normal" each of these girls are.

And examining exactly what "normal" sexuality is by looking at these girls' unique "abnormalities" is kind of the thesis statement of this manga.

 

[wlftchtr82]

In all honesty, there is a high chance the friend would straight up khs if she found out that in reality the innocent Remu has some sort of paraphilia (with dolls).

She is using the fanfiction to cope with her shit life and despite being a bit creepy (I still don’t think using real names is good), she is still a teenager with a crush who fantasises about it (super normal) and is bound to do some stupid shit she’ll regret when she’s an adult (like that damn fanfiction).

But in her current headspace? I don’t think she would process the possibility of Remu never EVER corresponding to her love because she is interested in… dolls. I mean, I don’t wanna judge people but if you found out your crush isn’t attracted to people at all but instead has some pygmalion type of shit going on, grasping it would be hard. Maybe even harder than finding out your crush isn’t attracted to your gender. Some people when they get rejected might still hold onto the hope of having a chance for some time, but in that case there is not hope at all…

Idk fellas, the only one I am really worried about at this point is the school friend. And I still think Meguru has a looooong way to go before she can start a relationship with Azuki again, so this shit is not going to end well.

 

[Glimmung]

So, why did Meguru break up with Azuki in the first place?

She has a phobia of sexual intimacy and did not do a good job of communicating that fact to Azuki. I am pretty sure that Azuki would have been perfectly okay with just cuddling.
Shortly afterwards Meguru physically moved away due to her parents divorce.

 

[Glimmung]

But in her current headspace? I don’t think she would process the possibility of Remu never EVER corresponding to her love because she is interested in… dolls. I mean, I don’t wanna judge people but if you found out your crush isn’t attracted to people at all but instead has some pygmalion type of shit going on, grasping it would be hard. Maybe even harder than finding out your crush isn’t attracted to your gender. Some people when they get rejected might still hold onto the hope of having a chance for some time, but in that case there is not hope at all…

Total agreement. More than just the romance Niji is obsessed with Azuki's home life. The idealized home that she saw during her visit was such a contrast to her own. Pretty sure that Niji is going to start trying to insert herself into Azuki's household.

 

[Yuri_Enjoyer_Deluxe]

first, self harm is a thing. Do it really not creepy just because you done thing to yourself ? there are a reason she, or any of us would keep these secret. Same with the classmate fantasy, see, if we apply that here, why don't we excuse her for her fantasy is her own business then ? then the rest what she did, pressure your crush ? so far what wrong with it ?

Now if we go back to interfering with someone else ? then how you excuse Remu ? she and the classmate would be in same position, and right now Remu a much worse WORSE offender. Classmate only try to talk her crush out of a potential rival love, wouldn't we all ¯\(ツ)/¯ ? Remu right now some potential committing manipulate act
Azuki and Remu have is consensual ? about making the doll commission, this ain't it. Right now she have hidden motive, Yes she have cross the line, yes, she push Azuki onto this.

I find it ridiculous that you excuse Rumu so much while "Meguru is now trying to push herself into Azuki's life again" ??? when that actually have real consensual, and actually have no second hidden motive

MC and Remu may have a particular weird kink, but it's not really hurting anyone, while Remu's classmate is being a giant creep trying to project her fantasies on remu, forcing her into some fictional position she cooked up herself, hence interfering with someone elses life. 😐

Sure, maybe Azuki's and Remu's sanity is questionable, but they at least keep it to themselves unlike the other two, which in my eyes makes them worlds better..

What Azuki and Remu have is consensual, while the Classmate is one-sidedly trying to push into Remu's business she has no right to be inferring in, in Meguru's and Azuki's case, Azuki never really crossed any lines she was weird yes, but didn't force herself onto her with it, while Meguru is now trying to push herself into Azuki's life again with her weird puppet 🥲

So sticking to what i said 😶

I feel were picking sides when I feel the true answer lies somewhere in the middle in my honest opinion. Is it weird for the classmate to fantasize their love? Yes and no, when it comes to crushes, its not insane to imagine your life together, it becomes an issue when you forcefully act it out non-consentually.

And so far... while she is in a sense trying to place herself in there, thats mostly acting in a manner of shooting her shot, as of now, we mostly are outside parties dictating their direction, which is more or less up to them to decide. If she wants to let her go make up, so be it. If not, so be it. At the end of the day, what happens is solely down to the decisions all the individuals choose.

TEMU Utena and ex's sister have their own kinks, for sure, and they keep it to themselves for the most part. The classmate wants to try and make her moves, and its up to the ex's sis to determine how she feels about said advances, and whether she tries (or not) to stop TEMU Utena from making amends. Its messy all around, but this is moreso a scenario that will have to sort itself out, as this is a manner all folks involved have to figure out for themselves I feel.

Thats my 2 cents.

 

[Ninoren]

first, self harm is a thing. Do it really not creepy just because you done thing to yourself ? there are a reason she, or any of us would keep these secret. Same with the classmate fantasy, see, if we apply that here, why don't we excuse her for her fantasy is her own business then ? then the rest what she did, pressure your crush ? so far what wrong with it ?

Now if we go back to interfering with someone else ? then how you excuse Remu ? she and the classmate would be in same position, and right now Remu a much worse WORSE offender. Classmate only try to talk her crush out of a potential rival love, wouldn't we all ¯\(ツ)/¯ ? Remu right now some potential committing manipulate act
Azuki and Remu have is consensual ? about making the doll commission, this ain't it. Right now she have hidden motive, Yes she have cross the line, yes, she push Azuki onto this.

I find it ridiculous that you excuse Rumu so much while "Meguru is now trying to push herself into Azuki's life again" ??? when that actually have real consensual, and actually have no second hidden motive

Not sure where you pulled your random "self harm" out of your arse now, but sure, maybe want to elaborate rather than just throwing it out there without explanation 😮‍💨

Not sure why you're glazing the classmate so hard, when the chapter has clearly shown she is just about to go after Azuki, because she wants her written novel to become real, also you keep throwing random things like "manipulating act" around, without actually saying what you mean, considering Remu isn't doing anything Azuki didn't want, if anything it's Azuki pushing Remu into the position that Meguru left, already said they all crazy, but classmate and meguru are worse in my eyes, than those two who still seem self aware to some degree, while the classmate and meguru do those things without a second thought

 

[onedumninja]

Meguru is gonna be so mad at azuki feeling up and getting very close to her sister 0_0

 

[mangaburner1979]

In all honesty, there is a high chance the friend would straight up khs if she found out that in reality the innocent Remu has some sort of paraphilia (with dolls).

She is using the fanfiction to cope with her shit life and despite being a bit creepy (I still don’t think using real names is good), she is still a teenager with a crush who fantasises about it (super normal) and is bound to do some stupid shit she’ll regret when she’s an adult (like that damn fanfiction).

But in her current headspace? I don’t think she would process the possibility of Remu never EVER corresponding to her love because she is interested in… dolls. I mean, I don’t wanna judge people but if you found out your crush isn’t attracted to people at all but instead has some pygmalion type of shit going on, grasping it would be hard. Maybe even harder than finding out your crush isn’t attracted to your gender. Some people when they get rejected might still hold onto the hope of having a chance for some time, but in that case there is not hope at all…

Idk fellas, the only one I am really worried about at this point is the school friend. And I still think Meguru has a looooong way to go before she can start a relationship with Azuki again, so this shit is not going to end well.

Niji, I alternate between feeling sad for her and being terrified of her. The comment about mothers who make snacks existing was heartbreaking but then it snapped right back to psychological horror as soon she entered the bedroom.

I wonder how she would react to discovering Remu's paraphilia...would she rewrite her story or double down on the fictional version to possible dangerous ends?

And how will all this be complicated by Remu developing feelings for Azuki beyond her paraphilia? Writing this comment made me realize we haven't seen much of their paraphilias from either character the last two chapters. This chapter confirmed for me that Azuki's projection onto the clay has finally failed and shifted onto Remu's body and voice. It makes the whole situation arguably more fucked up, with Remu roleplaying a version of her stepsister for Azuki so Meguru won't steal Azuki away.

 

[kkjoo]

You just know Niji had a light orgasm there.

 

[jmgaling0924]

I like this "everyone crazy" cliche

 

[sebaasdf]

Hang in there Remu! You are fighting an almost impossible fight

 

[KitsuKyouno]

SHIMAIDON roue please

 

[Tcof]

Not sure where you pulled your random "self harm" out of your arse now, but sure, maybe want to elaborate rather than just throwing it out there without explanation 😮‍💨

"obsessed with making doll and make love with it, with crazy eye chanting your Ex name" may not physical harm but metal. Like isn't it very oblivious she is very miserable, live and hugely depend on a coping Mechanisms. she is the one need help most here.

Not sure why you're glazing the classmate so hard, when the chapter has clearly shown she is just about to go after Azuki, because she wants her written novel to become real,

all i am saying, as FOR NOW, nothing she did so insane yet. Go after Azuki ? all she have said is find out who is this workmate is. which again, curious and want to find out who is your love rival, Most will do the same. Yeah, her origin sound yabai, but so far her coping is same shit lot teenager would do

also you keep throwing random things like "manipulating act" around, without actually saying what you mean,

i did not expect i have to explain, thought it was obvious. Guess not huh ?
and again, i said potential manipulating, need more to judge but she was taping into that territory. and what she did ? the part where she try to replace the Ex. she, knowing the mental of the target and strike where it weak, for her own wish: she don't want MC to go back to her. this is using a consensual deal between them for a different motive the partner not knowing. she do not do it for "this is for make the doll". anymore.
And this is reply why she should be in same position as the classmate, but if anything worse. because first, it is the question the classamted get asked, so it is a lot more within the line even if she have different motive. Second, it is just an advise for a question, so it all up to the questioner to take it or leave it. while Remu using a commission and have power in it

considering Remu isn't doing anything Azuki didn't want, if anything it's Azuki pushing Remu into the position that Meguru left,

What ? that just insane. they are just worker who work at same place, and have a commission that Remu is the one who start it, She have no responsible for Remu whatsoever. She reunion with her Ex or have new lover or whatever else, it is her right, her own business. Remu have no saying in it. Are you insane ?

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

Never quite understood the saying "its like a car crash you cant look away" until i started reading this impending trainwreck.
Really like the buildup and character work these past few chapters, usui shio never disappoints.
Thanks for the translation!

 

[DoboDoboDobo]

I'm praying for an Azuki x Meguru ending. I really don't like the way the blonde uses Azuki's trauma for her own selfish needs.

 

[aiyumi86]

😫 I need more chapters.

 

[Roodypatooti]

I know I'm repeating myself, but with every chapter even more so, this really is not gonna end well.
Like I'm just unsure if it's gonna end with suicide or actual murders at this point.

 

[Paraguayito]

This is it guys, the flag has been raised, from here on it's gonna be a battlefield, brace yourselfs.

 

[Dirgecry]

It really is like watching a horrific train wreck unfold in slow motion each chapter. It almost me worried what the end results will look like