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Their first reply was to call their users pedophiles
Ya not smart, but like I said, I can understand why given the context of what they were going through and removing.

In 8 years I don't think I've ever seen them remove something unless they were legally obligated to (or a dumbass group requested it only to change their minds 5 months down the line).

Save that kinda reply for the end of the drama after they've gone mask off.
 
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Anyways regarding the nuke I came to drop here today, everything is recounted in @Doedoel 's DMs but for the sake of his privacy and his true feelings on the matter I won't post it here. I will say though our last interaction was Ant trying to guilt trip me by faking that she was gonna end her life by driving off a bridge because her love wasn't reciprocated by a friend of mine
you have his DMs?

how's he doing?
 
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I think it's good time if anyone want to bid farewell, it's contingency for when the forum were closed again like those time.
 
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Anyways regarding the nuke I came to drop here today, everything is recounted in @Doedoel 's DMs but for the sake of his privacy and his true feelings on the matter I won't post it here. I will say though my last interaction with her was Ant trying to guilt trip me by faking that she was gonna end her life by driving off a bridge because her love wasn't reciprocated by a friend of mine
Idk why but I hate you and I'm always right. We should get ride of this guy
 
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What gets me about much of the noise in the thread du jour is the underlying assumption that, somehow, this privately owned and operated site is under any obligation to allow the same level of free speech that I would have if I stepped out my front door here in the USA.

It is not under that obligation. It never has been.

If folks want to get upset there has been a shift in what's considered 'appropriate' material for the site, okay - having been here a while, I don't think that's an entirely unfounded claim. If they want to get upset about the manner in which the affected material was removed, and/or the lack of communication about that, fine - again, not without some merit. If there is concern about what one of the mods said:
If you jerk it off to little kids, go and do it elsewhere; there are sites that specialise in that.
...well, I actually entirely agree with this one. Note they're not actually calling anyone a pedophile, just saying that if someone is, that someone should find a new place to get their source material.

However, this site is not answerable to its users with respect to the removal of content in any real legal sense - the users are not shareholders or trustees or anything else. If the actual owners/operators/stakeholders/whatever decide to make changes to the rules or content, they can do so without approval from anyone else, and they are under no requirement to announce those changes in advance.

There are a large number of people who dropped into the other thread today with the mistaken idea that their rights were somehow being violated because some titles were removed, when in reality they never had any such rights to begin with. The rules and terms are pretty clear that the site has the right to remove content it feels is inappropriate, and there are enough broadly worded clauses in those that I believe removal can be done for any subjective reason.

If the idea of being subject to the whims of the site operators concerns you, I would suggest you find some other site to join. I am rather skeptical that at this time there are many left that don't share the same underlying subjectivity to a greater or lesser degree - some simply exercise it less.
 
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What gets me about much of the noise in the thread du jour is the underlying assumption that, somehow, this privately owned and operated site is under any obligation to allow the same level of free speech that I would have if I stepped out my front door here in the USA.

It is not under that obligation. It never has been.

If folks want to get upset there has been a shift in what's considered 'appropriate' material for the site, okay - having been here a while, I don't think that's an entirely unfounded claim. If they want to get upset about the manner in which the affected material was removed, and/or the lack of communication about that, fine - again, not without some merit. If there is concern about what one of the mods said:

...well, I actually entirely agree with this one. Note they're not actually calling anyone a pedophile, just saying that if someone is, that someone should find a new place to get their source material.

However, this site is not answerable to its users with respect to the removal of content in any real legal sense - the users are not shareholders or trustees or anything else. If the actual owners/operators/stakeholders/whatever decide to make changes to the rules or content, they can do so without approval from anyone else, and they are under no requirement to announce those changes in advance.

There are a large number of people who dropped into the other thread today with the mistaken idea that their rights were somehow being violated because some titles were removed, when in reality they never had any such rights to begin with. The rules and terms are pretty clear that the site has the right to remove content it feels is inappropriate, and there are enough broadly worded clauses in those that I believe removal can be done for any subjective reason.

If the idea of being subject to the whims of the site operators concerns you, I would suggest you find some other site to join. I am rather skeptical that at this time there are many left that don't share the same underlying subjectivity to a greater or lesser degree - some simply exercise it less.
silly MangaDex staff, don't they know people don't read the TOS?
 
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Also a flood of people, as usual, that don't know MD has always said they will remove titles when they get legal requests. It's literally the only thing that keeps them from getting nuked from orbit like new bato and it's sister sites did. Now, should MD put themselves in that boat in the first place? Probably not, but that ship sailed 8 years ago.
 
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Equating real life children who have gone through the horrors of pedophilia to anime art in a fucking anime forum
...which laws in several jurisdictions (including the UK, where MD is registered as a corporation) already do. Meaning hosting the material is, in a very real legal sense, the exact same thing in the eyes of those governments. As one of the devs said a quarter hour ago on the discord, concerning these events and the motivation for them:

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You know I'm surprised you're not on the side of the complainers considering your profile but then again, I don't know you that well.
I'm not trying to pick sides

ever since the DMCA, I'm trying to be as neutral as possible

all I wanna do is just correct information (and make jokes here and there)
 
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One call to Kakao and this whole joint is getting nuked out of orbit.
No. A number of titles will be DMCA'd, but the site itself is indemnified because of how the DMCA is written. As long as MD complies, none of the publishers can actually take it down. Those sites that got nuked ended up that way because they refused to comply with DMCA requests.
 

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