Chainsaw Man - Ch. 232 - Thank You, Chainsaw Man

[Th3Ch0s3n1]

There are good time reset ends, and there are bad ones, and I can’t help but feel like this is the latter.

If Fujimoto was gonna undo all the emotional impacts of the first part, the least he could’ve done was to show all the major characters’ lives. Like where’s Aki? What happens to Reze this time around? The conclusion with Asa also seems unsatisfactory.

 

[RequiemSymphony]

The magazine has confirmed there will be no part 3. Thank you Pochita, thank you Denji. This is a manga I will surely re-read.

Nayuta replace Makima for no reason.

Makima didnt get saved by Chainsaw Man in the 1v3 vs the other horsemen. Seeing how people's goals and such didnt change in the reset and how Makima knows that Pochita saves then kills the devils he saves (and also how Yoru seems to have only fought Pochita in hell once), Since Makima wanted to erase the other horsemen she tired to fight them and got killed by the other 3 horseman. added by the fact that Nayuta is older than how she was at the start of part 2, this implied that they fought just before Pochita and Denji meet at the start of the manga. anyways themes and whatnot

 

[SpencerSDH]

There is some stuff I wish they explored more and some characters I wish got more attention, but, overall, it's a pretty decent conclusion. Which as far as manga endings go is a pretty rare thing.

I'm also happy I can know just avoid anything related to this series in social media because, Jesus Christ, the discussion there is the most braindead shit I have ever seen. The curse of being a shounen series, I guess.

This is not a decent conclusion though. It happens out of nowhere. Dude, if the previous chapter didn't tell you that the next chapter was the last one, then you would have no idea that the series was about to end. That's not a good thing. There was no winding down of the action here. We were in the middle of the climax of the story and now we're at the epilogue.

 

[RequiemSymphony]

Damn. Denji is missing one of his balls. At least Power is alive! Sad about Asa though, my boy is never going to get laid....

wouldnt Asa die or get groomed by her teacher in this timeline? cause Yoru wouldnt have a reason to look for a body or leave hell to find Chainsaw Man

 

[Dexelsior]

I didn't hate this. It could have been better, but it could have been way worse, too, and I was worried it would be. Onwards and upwards.

Please look forward to Fujimoto's upcoming work, Blood Man.

 

[KuroeNekumi]

wouldnt Asa die or get groomed by her teacher in this timeline? cause Yoru wouldnt have a reason to look for a body or leave hell to find Chainsaw Man

I mean, in this timeline she hasn't killed the devil chicken (which got her ostracized by her class for doing so), so who knows what would happen to her from here.

 

[Malta]

I expected Fujimoto to pull something, I'm not even mad or disappointed. I feel that he was riding high when he finished part 1 and tried to get that same feeling again with part 2 but missed the mark.

 

[NotSomeone]

This is not a decent conclusion though. It happens out of nowhere. Dude, if the previous chapter didn't tell you that the next chapter was the last one, then you would have no idea that the series was about to end. That's not a good thing. There was no winding down of the action here. We were in the middle of the climax of the story and now we're at the epilogue.

I don't think Part 2 was ever meant to happen, it was pushed due to Part 1's popularity. That's why Part 2 is such a nothing burger, Fujimoto wrote himself into a corner and then decided to pull the plug.
The ending feels like it came from nowhere because it really did, a bunch of stuff was happening, the world was ending, there's no way to end the story so we just pull a reset button and get it over with.
It's lazy and disrespectful.

 

[D0ncoming5torm]

Think this might be because of Fujimoto's huge success? I wouldn't be surprised if that was main reason for him losing interest, or maybe even not being confident enough to live up to everyone's expectations. So he just killed it immediately instead of potentially dragging it out. It could have been worse, where he would've become another George RR Martin and just put the series on an indefinite hiatus for years and just never finished it. As unsatisfying as it is, this is the decision he made.

 

[Acolytus]

This is not a decent conclusion though. It happens out of nowhere. Dude, if the previous chapter didn't tell you that the next chapter was the last one, then you would have no idea that the series was about to end. That's not a good thing. There was no winding down of the action here. We were in the middle of the climax of the story and now we're at the epilogue.

The previous chapter makes it pretty evident things are either coming to a close or at the very least that a massive shift is coming. I do agree that overall the arc jumps from the fight with Yoru to this too quickly, though.

Like I said, I wish we got more, but I'm content with how the characters ended up. I get that the reset is a bitter pill to swallow for a lot of people, and it would be for me too if this chapter didn't make it pretty clear that they aren't complete strangers. There are remnants of the previous world and the bonds they developed there, and that's largely what allows this new world to develop in a less tragical way. I see lots of people going "well it all got reset so it didn't matter" and that feels like a pretty reductive way to see it.

It's not my ideal ending (don't ask me what would be because I wouldn't be able to tell you), but it does bring things to a close and ends the story on a good note. Considering the alternative could have been some utterly cynical or utterly nonsensical bullshit, I'm fine with this.

 

[Evans01]

Since the discussion page already created, I'll drop my opinion from my profile post last night.

At the end, that's kind unexpected, but expected at all since the one we discuss is Fujimoto. Yes, □□□□□□□□man contains a lot of deep meaning and absurdity, kinda felt like reading the 21st century version of Ningen Shikkaku (No Longer Human). But, remember, that Fujimoto is the kind of person that goes like, "Uh, I like this. Let's draw it this way."


So, maybe the conclusion is: don't expect that much from a person who eating his dead pet fish or any unexpected behaviors. At least, the story still well written, though.

If □□□□□□□□man part 3 released, that sounds good. But if not, that's okay. Nothing really can be expected from that Fujimoto.

Note: I already fixed the typo "21th" to "21st" in this post.
Note 2: Feel free to discuss, or debating me since we all had freedom to critizing or discussing a work.
Note 3: The series name got half censored for getting lore accuracy.

 

[MilkDrinker]

Came out of nowhere, but I think it's for the best. At least it felt good.
The war devil and death devil stuff just felt meh. If the author was tired of writing this, good for him he doesn't have to anymore.

 

[Gay4Jesus]

wouldnt Asa die or get groomed by her teacher in this timeline? cause Yoru wouldnt have a reason to look for a body or leave hell to find Chainsaw Man

you can see the teachers dead body next to the devil in one of the panels

 

[RequiemSymphony]

you can see the teachers dead body next to the devil in one of the panels

lmao that was him? I thought that was the guy that Fami drained ngl

 

[DoingScience]

I think that's what he was going for. He's saying "here's your trope happy ending cunts, see why those suck?". Maybe.

"You just don't like sad endings" was the cope going around when Oshi no ko kicked the bucket. I guess manga readers don't like positive or negative endings, so maybe we should just stop ending things altogether.

Or maybe the fans dislike the story they spent months if not years investing in getting rugpulled into a hamfisted ending. These endings don't linger on the world they leave because even the mangakas know what they're doing.

 

[popo53414]

 

[loki266]

The author ran out of ideas, just gave up, and the result is this... final chapter.

 

[Talvos]

...huh. I guess that's one way to end a story.

 

[Rannchan]

Fuji loves movies and surely knows a "this was all a dream" style ending are utter shite. So he is either giving us the middle finger for no reason or is so high on his own farts he believes this is a genuinely good ending. regardless: go visit Sinaloa Fuiji

 

[Lunkli]

Well, guess it's finally been added here. This is basically just a repeat of what I said on my profile, but I'm not really sure what to think about this ending. Like, it's obviously completely nonsensical, and I don't necessarily disagree with the people suggesting the possibility of this being a fake-out ending. The theory that the devil that attacked Denji at the end of 230 was the "dream devil" or "nightmare devil" and created all of this isn't too out there, either. Plus, the people saying "look, it says 'the end' so it's totally over stop saying it's fake!!" like they've never heard of lying before are just ridiculous. A fake-out ending is totally something Fujimoto'd do. This isn't some shitty Netflix series. (And in the first place, comparisons to Stranger Things are kind of silly? Like, these are stories written in two entirely different media with two entirely different target audiences.)

But at the same time... Dropping the series on a dime and rushing out a nonsensical ending with no plans for anything to come after it is also totally something he'd do.

If this were any other author, I think this would be a pretty clear cut case, one or the other. But Fujimoto? I seriously don't know; it could go either way. Part 2, especially, has been going in pretty hard on more experimental storylines, what with the mouth-less chapter with no dialogue and such. Could a fake-out ending be a natural progression of that? I don't think it's impossible. And with Chainsaw Man being as big as it is, I imagine that Fujimoto probably does have enough sway with the editing department to get them to play along.

The quality of the writing has generally been getting worse in part 2, as well, though, and in a lot of ways it does read as Fujimoto starting to get genuinely tired of writing this whole thing. So I could see him just going "yeah, I'm done, here's a shitty ending with a bajillion plot holes." I mentioned the possibility of this in my comment on the last chapter, too. (Though you kind of have to wonder if the editing department would actually go along with such an abrupt ending to one of their cash-cows.)

So, in the end... I don't really know. I still think I'm leaning towards this being the real ending, where Fujimoto just gave up writing it 'cause he was bored, but, like I said in my original post, I wouldn't be surprised if there really was another chapter, revealing this to be a fake ending. I just wouldn't really count on it.

If there were another chapter, though, I can't see it coming after anything more than a single week break. So if there's nothing next week or the week after that, I'm dropping the possibility. If it does still come after that point, then, yeah, I'll be pretty surprised. But I don't think that'd happen. Wait too long and you lose your audience, especially when you are literally telling them to leave. If this is intentional, then obviously Fujimoto's gotta keep stuff like that in mind.