Chounin A wa Akuyaku Reijou wo Doushitemo Sukuitai - Vol. 4 Ch. 19 - Heroine

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[Solipsist]

Reincarnating heroine aside, there’s actually a lot of stories where the heroine doesn’t end up being evil. For example, ironically enough, the trope popularizer, Bakarina.

Do you happen to remember the name of that otome-reincarnated manga, about a red-headed, incredibly ditzy "villainess", and a "cold-hearted prince", where she keeps spiling out plans on how to "get the prince and the heroine together so I can get destroyed" and like a true Bakarina she ends up attracting people around her?

I scanned through my entire list and couldn't find it. :s It should be completed.
EDIT: Never mind. Actually thought it was a good idea to use myanimelist's recommendation on Bakarina's manga page. Managed to find it, lol.
It's: An Observation Log of My Fiancée Who Calls Herself a Villainess, a solid read if anyone hasn't read it yet.

 

[XNFEdayo]

Are there any 'heroines' who've been reincarnated in similar stories who aren't 'LET'S GO REVERSE HAREM' just for that, and don't feel like ... living in the world ?

Yup. Sadly I can't remember the names but a few of them want nothing to do with the "capture targets", one who becomes a badass adventurer/maid to escape her fate, one who's aiming not for the "capture targets" but instead a side character she liked, one who's after the MC who's also like this MC is a mob character, the one about the butler where the heroine falls in love with said butler while the prince falls in love with the villianess he was supposed to have shunned, a few where the heroine actually befriends the villianess, a funny as hell S & M themed one where the heroine is the villianess' little sister and the villianess is actually trying to protect her FROM the fake sadist "capture targets".

 

[Kampfarsch]

Wot? Have you actually read the chapter? If it were just that, sure, but literally, she's wishing for another girl to get raped to death... Just because she's in her way. That just isn't it.

Its not a girl its an npc from a game.
Anastasia is not a real person every line you read about her acknowledging MCs work and being diligent its all because she was written to be that way. She is just as artificial as the braindead prince.
She also isnt "wishing" it on her she knows thats what will happen in the future because she is the villain in this videogame.

This chapter showed that it's most likely her own fault why she had no friend in her previous life. Her spoiled mindset. No regrets of dying because that was a "miserable world full with idiots", hated her "stupid school", calling people at her school "monkeys" because they weren't like those handsome men in otome games...

???
You know nothing about what made her become a people hating neet.
This is a literal child you are talking about not saddam hussein.

She has lived in that world for years, interacting with lots of other people aside from game characters. Surely their complex emotions would be more than enough to make her realize that they're not simply soulless NPCs. But she didn't, because that's how she was since her previous life, prefering only self-pandering fantasy and keeping everything else out. That's why she's so quick to go back to the thinking that she's the only one who's important and that it's her right because she has already experienced much more "hardships" than others.

?????????????
God literally reincarnated her into a videogame she played.
Of course the npcs will act like real people and wont just have 2 dialogue lines like background characters in rpg maker.
That doesnt change the fact that she thinks this entire world came into existence for her and she is absolutely right.
Literal nonsense argument.

Dude, are you serious?
MC worked really hard mostly to help the villainess to not die miserably, and to help save the kingdom against the story villain. He also genuinely and actively cared and helped others throughout the process.
Amy though, everything she did was for herself and only for herself. She looked at everyone and everything as hers for the taking, and those who wasn't important as mobs and piece of shits. She only thought of Anna as a meddler and one who lived a blessed life full without any hardship, and that was somehow enough for her to deserve getting gangraped and killed? She actively forced things to go that way too.

He skipped through the story securing bullshit abilities to cheese his way through everything and become filthy rich.
They are both treating it like a game with amy just wanting to play out her character and get her favorite ending and him exploiting the combat side of things.

Amy is doing literally nothing wrong these are not real people they are soulless puppets god has created for her amusement after she died.
She could kill an entire orphanage worth of these actual fictional characters and she would still be in the right.
If you died tomorrow and god reincarnated you into literal elder scrolls skyrim would you be able to see lydia as a real human with a soul? This actual videogame npc god has brought to life for you?
I hope not or otherwise you would be the most gullible person on earth.

 

[ZenMasters]

idk why the "heroine" thinks the mob would serve her. Is she just caught up in her own hype that she think anyone will do anything for her.

It's the "Main Character Syndrome".

 

[sperance]

Its not a girl its an npc from a game.
Anastasia is not a real person every line you read about her acknowledging MCs work and being diligent its all because she was written to be that way. She is just as artificial as the braindead prince.
She also isnt "wishing" it on her she knows thats what will happen in the future because she is the villain in this videogame.

???
You know nothing about what made her become a people hating neet.
This is a literal child you are talking about not saddam hussein.

?????????????
God literally reincarnated her into a videogame she played.
Of course the npcs will act like real people and wont just have 2 dialogue lines like background characters in rpg maker.
That doesnt change the fact that she thinks this entire world came into existence for her and she is absolutely right.
Literal nonsense argument.

He skipped through the story securing bullshit abilities to cheese his way through everything and become filthy rich.
They are both treating it like a game with amy just wanting to play out her character and get her favorite ending and him exploiting the combat side of things.

Amy is doing literally nothing wrong these are not real people they are soulless puppets god has created for her amusement after she died.
She could kill an entire orphanage worth of these actual fictional characters and she would still be in the right.
If you died tomorrow and god reincarnated you into literal elder scrolls skyrim would you be able to see lydia as a real human with a soul? This actual videogame npc god has brought to life for you?
I hope not or otherwise you would be the most gullible person on earth.

Having read the WN, I genuinely don't have the words to tell you just how wrong you are on every level.

 

[Cobaltzero]

Its not a girl its an npc from a game.
Anastasia is not a real person every line you read about her acknowledging MCs work and being diligent its all because she was written to be that way. She is just as artificial as the braindead prince.
She also isnt "wishing" it on her she knows thats what will happen in the future because she is the villain in this videogame.

???
You know nothing about what made her become a people hating neet.
This is a literal child you are talking about not saddam hussein.

?????????????
God literally reincarnated her into a videogame she played.
Of course the npcs will act like real people and wont just have 2 dialogue lines like background characters in rpg maker.
That doesnt change the fact that she thinks this entire world came into existence for her and she is absolutely right.
Literal nonsense argument.

He skipped through the story securing bullshit abilities to cheese his way through everything and become filthy rich.
They are both treating it like a game with amy just wanting to play out her character and get her favorite ending and him exploiting the combat side of things.

Amy is doing literally nothing wrong these are not real people they are soulless puppets god has created for her amusement after she died.
She could kill an entire orphanage worth of these actual fictional characters and she would still be in the right.
If you died tomorrow and god reincarnated you into literal elder scrolls skyrim would you be able to see lydia as a real human with a soul? This actual videogame npc god has brought to life for you?
I hope not or otherwise you would be the most gullible person on earth.

Buddy, he legitimately states early on that he's doing everything in his power to prevent his home from being burned to the ground over political bullshit caused by a bitch with a perpetually wet clam.
Him cheesing, especially since he has no social status to use to lean on to change anything, is only normal since he knows where things are that can help him avoid that fate.

And if you reincarnated into a world, yeah, that's your real world now. Holy shit you're dumb.

 

[Kampfarsch]

Having read the WN, I genuinely don't have the words to tell you just how wrong you are on every level.

Buddy, he legitimately states early on that he's doing everything in his power to prevent his homemfrom being burned to the ground over political bullshit caused by a bitch with a perpetually wet clam.
Him cheesing, especially since he has no social status to use to lean on to change anything, is only normal since he knows where things are that can help him avoid that fate.

And if you reincarnated into a world, yeah, that's your real world now. Holy shit you're dumb.

Why did I even expect people in the comment section of a literal villainess reversal trope story to act like anything more than vindictive 11 year old white girls?

Waaah waaah shes bullying the nice girl milktoast npc she should literally get raped and die waaaahhh

Anastasia is not a human being. She does not have a soul. She is literally a fictional character that popped into existence at like 6 years old for the entertainment of MC and amy.

 

[kciaar]

What a vile bitch, living a miserable life only to be reincarnated to be a toxic manipulative thot just like people she used to hate in real life. Once a scum, always a scum.

 

[IronMan659]

Okay... I knew Anastasia has a bad end but I didn't know it was that bad..... I mean.... an execution would have been better..... was this mentioned before ?

This absolute piece of irredeemable trash, this bitch, this piece of shit. Ahhh I am sick to my stomach, she knows what happens to Anastasia and goes "serves her right" ? When she hasn't even done anything to her or anyone else for that matter ? Fucking piece of shit, I am gonna lose my mind to this.

 

[IronMan659]

Its not a girl its an npc from a game.
Anastasia is not a real person every line you read about her acknowledging MCs work and being diligent its all because she was written to be that way. She is just as artificial as the braindead prince.
She also isnt "wishing" it on her she knows thats what will happen in the future because she is the villain in this videogame.

???
You know nothing about what made her become a people hating neet.
This is a literal child you are talking about not saddam hussein.

?????????????
God literally reincarnated her into a videogame she played.
Of course the npcs will act like real people and wont just have 2 dialogue lines like background characters in rpg maker.
That doesnt change the fact that she thinks this entire world came into existence for her and she is absolutely right.
Literal nonsense argument.

He skipped through the story securing bullshit abilities to cheese his way through everything and become filthy rich.
They are both treating it like a game with amy just wanting to play out her character and get her favorite ending and him exploiting the combat side of things.

Amy is doing literally nothing wrong these are not real people they are soulless puppets god has created for her amusement after she died.
She could kill an entire orphanage worth of these actual fictional characters and she would still be in the right.
If you died tomorrow and god reincarnated you into literal elder scrolls skyrim would you be able to see lydia as a real human with a soul? This actual videogame npc god has brought to life for you?
I hope not or otherwise you would be the most gullible person on earth.

The fuck is wrong with you ?

 

[IronMan659]

Why did I even expect people in the comment section of a literal villainess reversal trope story to act like anything more than vindictive 11 year old white girls?

Anastasia is not a human being. She does not have a soul. She is literally a fictional character that popped into existence at like 6 years old for the entertainment of MC and amy.

By that logic, the MC and Amy aren't real either you know ? You might as well not read this series or any fiction for that matter, it's all fiction anyway.

 

[Kampfarsch]

By that logic, the MC and Amy aren't real either you know ? You might as well not read this series or any fiction for that matter, it's all fiction anyway.

No? Are you genuinely dumb? They are literally reincarnated souls from the real world or rather this might be the afterlife.

The fuck is wrong with you ?

2 replies?
Ur mad
L bozo
cope seethe

 

[IronMan659]

No? Are you genuinely dumb? They are literally reincarnated souls from the real world or rather this might be the afterlife.

2 replies?
Ur mad
L bozo
cope seethe

Real world ? What real world ? You mean to say they are real people who existed in our world ? People who lived in real life but got reincarnated and the author is writing their story ?

 

[Kampfarsch]

Real world ? What real world ? You mean to say they are real people who existed in our world ? People who lived in real life but got reincarnated and the author is writing their story ?

I am obviously talking the lore you bumbling idiot like what the fuck are you talking about
You got actual brain worms jesus christ.

Allen is a real human that died and got reincarnated into a videogame he played or this is the afterlife modelled after said videogame. Everyone else is a fictional character. They are not real people.
There is no history to this world it came into existence last thursday for their entertainment cause its literally a high school dating sim.

This is like if you died and woke up in harry potter.
This is entirely different from being reincarnated into a random parallel fantasy world that has existed before you came along.
You know these are not real people they are written by j.k. rowling.

 

[RemIpsum]

Do they ever come back with the idea of the MC having to learn swordsmanship rather than relying only on magic, or do they continue to ignore that point forever?

Spoiler

Also, I have to say I'm kinda disappointed to know that this ends with a plot that seems to come from Kaifuku (especially the part about Amy)

Spoiler

Not really? Mind, the WN is more shallow than the manga. I think this is based on a LN or updated author notes because the whole bandit-killing arc that took up several chapters here and showcased emotional growth in the MC was like one line in the WN, something that the author later expressed regret about. So it's possible there'll be more focus here.

Mind, Allen completely Hentai Orced the entire swords-and-sorcery meta by introducing goddamn carpet bombing, so. Learning to swing a sharp piece of metal might be redundant. The war doctrine after canon has got to be completely scuffed since at any point this one random asshole can murder everyone and be back home in time for tea.

 

[In_The_Nightside_Eclipse]

Okay... I knew Anastasia has a bad end but I didn't know it was that bad..... I mean.... an execution would have been better..... was this mentioned before ?

This absolute piece of irredeemable trash, this bitch, this piece of shit. Ahhh I am sick to my stomach, she knows what happens to Anastasia and goes "serves her right" ? When she hasn't even done anything to her or anyone else for that matter ? Fucking piece of shit, I am gonna lose my mind to this.

Spoiler

It worse, in the original game, after being abducted by bandit who's hired by the crown prince, she's gang raped for months before the bandit sold her to the Empire because she's already "useless" according to the bandits, not only that during Empire captivity she also received news that her entire family was executed, that where she completely lose her mind, fallen into darkness swore for revenge, where she wield the demon sword and attack the Kingdom where once she loved and work hard for, of course she's the final boss of the game the heroine and her reverse harem able to defeat her and kill her. That why Allen feel sorry for her (even before knowing her real personality and background), a typical tragic villain

 

[jjaeger]

Anastasia is not a human being. She does not have a soul. She is literally a fictional character that popped into existence at like 6 years old for the entertainment of MC and amy.

Anastasia IS a human being and I WILL impregnate her, and there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to stop me, you moron! COPE AND SEETH, TRASH!

 

[IronMan659]

I am obviously talking the lore you bumbling idiot like what the fuck are you talking about
You got actual brain worms jesus christ.

Allen is a real human that died and got reincarnated into a videogame he played or this is the afterlife modelled after said videogame. Everyone else is a fictional character. They are not real people.
There is no history to this world it came into existence last thursday for their entertainment cause its literally a high school dating sim.

This is like if you died and woke up in harry potter.
This is entirely different from being reincarnated into a random parallel fantasy world that has existed before you came along.
You know these are not real people they are written by j.k. rowling.

You clearly did not understand what I was trying to say, so sad, I am surprised such idiots exist in this world.

 

[IronMan659]

Spoiler

It worse, in the original game, after being abducted by bandit who's hired by the crown prince, she's gang raped for months before the bandit sold her to the Empire because she's already "useless" according to the bandits, not only that during Empire captivity she also received news that her entire family was executed, that where she completely lose her mind, fallen into darkness swore for revenge, where she wield the demon sword and attack the Kingdom where once she loved and work hard for, of course she's the final boss of the game the heroine and her reverse harem able to defeat her and kill her. That why Allen feel sorry for her (even before knowing her real personality and background), a typical tragic villain

Fucking hell...... I hope the prince dies a gruesome death