Dad Is a Hero, Mom Is a Spirit, I'm a Reincarnator - Vol. 3 Ch. 15

[mommy]

@Kalamel
I understand that however there would have been many other and more effective ways to establish that. For example by making the royalties scheme more elaborate and them therefore more of a threat.

 

[Kaarme]

@Zephyr Don't look at it from our perspective, from our mundane world. In a world of magic and living gods, the suspect is already guilty when they swear a dishonest oath before a god. That's just how it is.

 

[Zephyr]

@Kaarme
If this is a cultural norm unique to this fantasy world that we aren't supposed to immediately understand or accept, it sure would be handy to comment on that in the story somehow. Like, for example, if there was literally anyone at all who didn't immediately understand what all the fuss was about, and needed to have it explained to them why everyone else is acting like a total monster for no reason.

Maybe a child, say, who has repeatedly been characterised as being a little bit naive about the political nuances of this country, or the exact history the spirits have with the nobility. It would be even more convenient if this hypothetical child character was, herself, more familiar with the cultural norms of our world than the fantasy one, and wouldn't immediately make the same assumptions as the native adults do. But I guess that would just be too convenient, huh?

 

[GuildMasterJin]

lol good luck Sauvel!

 

[never_preorder]

Lol the difference in shave and unshaved uncle is huge

 

[harryno5]

They should just rename this story, 'My uncle and his many bad relationship choices that almost put our in ruins'.

 

[Kaarme]

@Zephyr I didn't say they would have handled it splendidly. It's true the characters in the story are quite aggressive and even nasty. But there was a fundamental reason why things proceeded before Aria even tried to commit any adultery for real.

 

[ApolloX1209]

Holy shit! The brother's complete transformation is godlike lol

 

[Patware]

@kaarme because the author set it up that way so he could write a big arc about everyone yelling at this horny woman

citing in-story shit doesn't help because the author is in full control of that. editors are not over his shoulder like "shame her more. more chapters!"

 

[xfaca]

So if I'm reading this thread correctly, thinking about your future brother-in-law whom you want to fuck throughout your entire wedding ceremony is perfectly normal for women.
At some point these people have to realise that they're not so much defending thots as condemning women in general.

 

[Aeder]

@Goretantath I'm talking within the context of the story. Please don't be dumb and try to extrapolate my statements to real life situations.

 

[Yadokari]

@xfaca
Having feelings for someone other than your spouse is normal for NOBLE marriages and other arranged ones.

 

[eridanired123]

Aria's character feels inconsistent and even contradictory. This chapter's horny bitch actions and speech seems opposed to the first scene when she enters the room to serve tea, to the flashback scene or to the wedding time when she received the judgment mark.

At those times she appeared innocent, but suddenly her face is drawn with nasty or calculating expressions. Unless bedding MC's dad has always been her aim (at least from the time of that bar flashback), I think the author made a mistake with her apparently bipolar personality undermining the whole story's cohesiveness.

 

[MarqFJA87]

... I didn't get Ellen's long explanation of why Aria is now at risk of being killed off. Why would her lusting after the kingdom's greatest hero make her a good scapegoat for the kingdom to avoid war with neighboring countries?

 

[Belisar]

The idea was to suggest that she was responsible for the hero being gone. And that the kingdom would decide if she is gone he’d come back.

 

[xfaca]

@Yadokari
Not sure what I'd call normal in such marriages, though it certainly seemed common, but that's not what this is. This is a noble marrying a commoner for reasons of love, a far cry from noble marriages primarily for reasons of politics or other convenience/utility.
It's possible that only Uncle was in love whereas she's a gold-digger or social climber who saw a chance to escape the commoner life, which could be better, worse, or just as bad depending on your values, but that doesn't seem to fit her character as presented, imo.

@eridanired123
To be fair, she has just had a very harsh accusation levied at her, one that she herself knows is true and is probably greatly ashamed and regretful of already, or in denial of.
As @Walter_vi_Britannia elaborated on earlier on p3, her reaction to being confronted is fairly understandable.
Of course, manga being manga, I don't have the greatest of hopes for that to be true. This medium tends to have fairly one dimensional characters, so from a meta perspective it could certainly be the author throwing her the idiot ball (bitch ball?) so she can serve as plot fulcrum.

Spoiler

Could also be a foreshadowing of her being two-faced and will turn against the family in the future

I also got that feeling from MC explaining the harsh treatment due to familial proximity. It somewhat felt like the author got feedback on the fact that arranged marriages would nearly always get cursed if held to the same standards and wanted to retroactively make sense of it.

 

[MarqFJA87]

@Belisar: ... So it's because of Rovel's abrupt departure in the previous chapter? That is, if he didn't return and the royal family discovers that, they'd sacrifice Aria just so that they can maintain their military advantage (because no way a gallant hero like Rovel would let the people of his original homeland, and especially his family, suffer from a pointless war with their neighbors)? And Ellen is explaining this to show just how close Aria got to being killed as well as impress upon Rovel that he needs to think more carefully about how he reacts to predicaments like this?

 

[TotallyNotT3mmie]

I don’t get why she’s being punished for thinking about things. She’s not acted on them at all. People shouldn’t be punished for just thinking about things.

 

[Belisar]

Oh believe me, if you could have seen my face while I was working on this chapter...

I was just saying that is how I understood that part
@MarqFJA87

 

[WillTell]

I think I'm not dumb enough to understand the reasoning given in this chapter.