Daily Life In TS School - Vol. 5 Ch. 19 - Tensei Festival 1: To the Other Side of This Academy

[MangaDex]

 

[Phar]

That is a really cruel passage of time.

 

[JumboWheat01]

At least he wasn't balding in high school. I knew a couple people like that...

 

[Elizzabeth2]

I wanted to enjoy this... but I don't get what this plat point is here for... The main conflict is them fixating and choosing for the other, then now this... like... trying to do too much T-T why not just keep to the more slice-of-life/romcom aspect and focus on their inner personal feelings than adding this weird conflict on "trying to fixate" everyone sigh. Still gonna tough it out and hopefully it gets a good ending.

 

[Remissio]

Damn, what a tragic passage of time.

Also wait, there's only 2 chapters left? Such cruel passage of time I shall miss this series.

 

[Saon]

I wanted to enjoy this... but I don't get what this plat point is here for... The main conflict is them fixating and choosing for the other, then now this... like... trying to do too much T-T why not just keep to the more slice-of-life/romcom aspect and focus on their inner personal feelings than adding this weird conflict on "trying to fixate" everyone sigh. Still gonna tough it out and hopefully it gets a good ending.

I share the same feeling.

 

[Julian117]

I don't understand if this manga hates men so much or is trying to say that putting women on a pedestal is what is ruining society...
Maybe both... because the boy here is like: "I have a huge secret to reveal to the world."
The other characters are like: "Oh no! That sounds important... Anyway, let's put you in a dress on a stage in a miss popularity contest."

 

[Julian117]

That is a really cruel passage of time.

They invented a serum to turn a boy into a girl from head to toes. But they couldn't fix male patern baldness....

Hahajhahahhaaa... this story might be a weird mirror of our reality...

 

[Julian117]

I wanted to enjoy this... but I don't get what this plat point is here for... The main conflict is them fixating and choosing for the other, then now this... like... trying to do too much T-T why not just keep to the more slice-of-life/romcom aspect and focus on their inner personal feelings than adding this weird conflict on "trying to fixate" everyone sigh. Still gonna tough it out and hopefully it gets a good ending.

It's an obvious inoffensive ending. What are you worried about?

 

[AncientWatcher]

Well, that's one kind of shounen jump.

 

[ksjfh]

I don't understand if this manga hates men so much or is trying to say that putting women on a pedestal is what is ruining society...
Maybe both... because the boy here is like: "I have a huge secret to reveal to the world."
The other characters are like: "Oh no! That sounds important... Anyway, let's put you in a dress on a stage in a miss popularity contest."

You're thinking about it too hard. It's a silly romcom.

 

[KoriCongo]

I wanted to enjoy this... but I don't get what this plat point is here for... The main conflict is them fixating and choosing for the other, then now this... like... trying to do too much T-T why not just keep to the more slice-of-life/romcom aspect and focus on their inner personal feelings than adding this weird conflict on "trying to fixate" everyone sigh. Still gonna tough it out and hopefully it gets a good ending.

The simple plot is that a school shouldn't be experimenting on minors. They can neither consent nor have been debriefed, violating all sorts of scientific ethics. Even if the end result isn't actually bad (painless transgender drug is ultimately a good thing regardless of how you slice it), it is insanely unethical to be performing this, especially with the idea of inflicting a genetic disease onto unsuspecting people without it.

 

[BayuAH]

I wanted to enjoy this... but I don't get what this plat point is here for... The main conflict is them fixating and choosing for the other, then now this... like... trying to do too much T-T why not just keep to the more slice-of-life/romcom aspect and focus on their inner personal feelings than adding this weird conflict on "trying to fixate" everyone sigh. Still gonna tough it out and hopefully it gets a good ending.

I remember this series came from series of silly images that draw by the author, but somehow it was absurdly became some kind of mystery detective manga in the volume two or three. My thought was "what the...?"

I also hope it gets a good ending.

 

[MidnighTea]

I have to agree, this one lost the plot somewhere and escalated in ways it doesn't really do much to establish or earn. All, more or less, because the author developed a taste for widespread genderswap. The good news is that they have a new manga in the works that'll let them scratch that itch more directly, having wrapped up this series.

I do think it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to presume the author has anything against men necessarily -- just "gosh, aren't they great if we make them girls?" -- but everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of a story.

 

[Julian117]

You're thinking about it too hard. It's a silly romcom.

That would assume that the characters are written in a relationship.

These characters make snap decisions on a dime.

Again Nagisa took 4 volumes to decide that may she likes the MC and maybe she might stay as a girl.
It took the lively boy 2 chapters to decide that he wants to wear the dress in the relationship.
This isn't a romcom. This is like a Monty Python skit...

 

[Julian117]

I do think it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to presume the author has anything against men necessarily -- just "gosh, aren't they great if we make them girls?" -- but everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of a ststory.

Here is an idea: instead of writing boring men as good women why not write good women?

I am just saying: the writers seems to be good at writing feminine men. Why not write feminine women?

I realize that I am not supposed to take this seriously but I feel like we as a society have slipped into a dangerous place when writing feminine women is now tabu and the only way you can wrote good girls is by turning boys into girls... what does that say about society today?

I only say this because two of the manga that I like that both got anime adaptations in the last year has two male characters that got turned into girls and they are (really) well written and feminine (some to the point of fanservice) in my opinion. And I like them, not because they were men but because of how well they are written.
And the other female characters that we are meant to root for feel boring... single note characters...

So I feel like this trope is no longer in the minority. It's slowly bleeding into mainstream and I don't like the new standards they are seeking to write through this loophole...

 

[Elizzabeth2]

I have to agree, this one lost the plot somewhere and escalated in ways it doesn't really do much to establish or earn. All, more or less, because the author developed a taste for widespread genderswap. The good news is that they have a new manga in the works that'll let them scratch that itch more directly, having wrapped up this series.

I do think it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to presume the author has anything against men necessarily -- just "gosh, aren't they great if we make them girls?" -- but everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of a story.

I don't know why people are obsessed with guys into girls and how under utilized girls into guys is (I said this multiple times) I know only a few series and it seems like besides one of them, the other ones I found are canceled most of the time. (some other I found are body swap stories that I don't fully consider full gender swaps even if they stay swapped (the story revolves around the swaps and romance mostly. A lot of the other ones again, get cancelled... I tend to like the ones that always get cancelled T-T

 

[MidnighTea]

I realize that I am not supposed to take this seriously but I feel like we as a society have slipped into a dangerous place when writing feminine women is now tabu and the only way you can wrote good girls is by turning boys into girls... what does that say about society today?

I've thought about this too, as someone who does very much like TS girls. And it does occur to me -- we don't write girls in as lighthearted a way. This isn't a new phenomenon at all, it's been this way for the several decades I've been around. But female characters are usually Serious Business who are written in a very exacting way, whereas male characters can be goofy, funny, flawed or weird. If there's anything I could say in defense of gender bender as a genre, it's that it's very much exposing this reality. We should indeed be writing more female characters with the levity and spirit we write former males. Such female characters exist, especially in works by non-straight female authors, but they're definitely more the exception than the rule.

I don't know why people are obsessed with guys into girls and how under utilized girls into guys is (I said this multiple times)

Society is just weirder about women than men. Men are treated as the default human being, the standard/normal existence for being human. Women are either divine beings or horrific temptresses, but mysterious entities of mysteriousness by comparison. Kind of ties into the reply I just gave Julian about how women aren't often written with levity. Because the mysterious mysteriousness just can't be with anything but solemn gravity.

So yeah, as such -- male to female gender bender? Entering a strange mysterious world of divinity or corruption! Female to male gender bender? "Oh, why would you want to see someone just become some boring guy"

(nevermind that 100% if you talk to female authors of BL/yaoi, they'll be very happy to tell you all about the unique mystique of pretty boys. And even though female-to-male isn't in my wheelhouse, I stan anyone who wants to open that door to wider appeal. It might be more exciting and with more potential than any of us know.)

 

[Elizzabeth2]

I've thought about this too, as someone who does very much like TS girls. And it does occur to me -- we don't write girls in as lighthearted a way. This isn't a new phenomenon at all, it's been this way for the several decades I've been around. But female characters are usually Serious Business who are written in a very exacting way, whereas male characters can be goofy, funny, flawed or weird. If there's anything I could say in defense of gender bender as a genre, it's that it's very much exposing this reality. We should indeed be writing more female characters with the levity and spirit we write former males. Such female characters exist, especially in works by non-straight female authors, but they're definitely more the exception than the rule.


Society is just weirder about women than men. Men are treated as the default human being, the standard/normal existence for being human. Women are either divine beings or horrific temptresses, but mysterious entities of mysteriousness by comparison. Kind of ties into the reply I just gave Julian about how women aren't often written with levity. Because the mysterious mysteriousness just can't be with anything but solemn gravity.

So yeah, as such -- male to female gender bender? Entering a strange mysterious world of divinity or corruption! Female to male gender bender? "Oh, why would you want to see someone just become some boring guy"

(nevermind that 100% if you talk to female authors of BL/yaoi, they'll be very happy to tell you all about the unique mystique of pretty boys. And even though female-to-male isn't in my wheelhouse, I stan anyone who wants to open that door to wider appeal. It might be more exciting and with more potential than any of us know.)

it is so that even typical female characters a lot of the time tend to feel like male characters too, esp if they are "written better" I know people are complex and there are so many types of women/men in reality, but as you mentioned it feeling "exacting way" they are written. The seriousness. Like, if you take the general populace, people don't act like that and their personalities vary wildly and have a mix of everything. In manga/anime, etc a lot of guy characters that are not the MC are treated very pervertedly or not good characters overall, while female characters areas you said. The better series tend to have a mix of it all with good writing, FOR THE MOST PART... The twisted characterization is why I tend to hate how so many characters in this medium now tend to feel pretty much exactly the same, look wise too. Female characters only "seem" to have so many designs, when a lot of it comes down to their expressions and how differently they act and go about their characters, while male characters are made very plain and boring, EVEN the MCs a lot of the time (there again are more mainstream exceptions as well in it). I am so tired of the extreme biases. I don't necessarily like TS girls more than any other characters, or TS guys as well. I want a purpose for that character in particular to swap, and not just plainly be TS just for it to be TS, because "that is the only way to make good female characters now" saying in general, not that anyone specifically said that

 

[o.l.d_FArt]

That would assume that the characters are written in a relationship.

These characters make snap decisions on a dime.

Again Nagisa took 4 volumes to decide that may she likes the MC and maybe she might stay as a girl.
It took the lively boy 2 chapters to decide that he wants to wear the dress in the relationship.
This isn't a romcom. This is like a Monty Python skit...

The ministry of silly skits or skirts.