Danjo-hi 1:39 no Heikou Sekai wa Omoi no Hoka Futsuu [R18] - Ch. 130 - Natsuki Hinata, Starts Losing Restraint — 4

[Karamru]

I wouldn’t call 18+ Sou scumbaggery, if anything I’d say he’s more of a man than SFW Sou. I mean, you’re in a world where the female population outnumbers the male population. Women’s idea of the perfect man is one who is kind, fit, and well built, that is literally the bare minimum of a man! You can literally go up to any woman, tell them “let’s fuck” and they’d agree in a heartbeat! They are even fine with being a side-piece as long as they are dicked down from time to time. And the best part is, you get the monopoly of the girls cause the other males scared to homosexuality! Hell, if you don’t want a harem and just want one wife you have no need to worry about her cheating, cause you are literally the only option. I firmly believe that any man who gets sent there would do the same thing. Except the whole fucking your other world family, unless there’s a guy who’s into that, I won’t judge.

Fair point, but if I were Sou, I would think sex loses all meaning when it's so freely given or even forced on you and at that point it be jerking off with extra steps, maybe I am being weird about it but I am seeing it less of a paradise and a more sexual dystopia so it's kind of understandable why men are the way they are in that world which of course Sou is the exception he might think he's hit the jackpot but when you get older, that stuff will get old really fast. But I am probably overthinking a hentai plot lol

 

[Asadfevrier]

You do know that women outnumbering men doesn't make it okay for men to rape women, right?

From the part where she wanted him to stop, and she told him to stop, and he didn't stop.

That's rape, my guy. By definition.

I don't want him to get jail time, I want Hinata to at least be a little bit upset about being raped.

I understand the last part, but I think she’ll be too distracted with her “little miracle” to concern herself with that. I get the feeling she’ll be very happy

 

[Psychronia]

So I guess poll results were technically both and .

Kinda disappointing that Sou just went nuts on her, but it wasn't wholly unexpected since he's been a bit of a scumbag in this timeline.
I do think he'll take responsibility though, which is a good thing because girl's body is apparently fertile AF.

And if Sou faces no consequence for doing that to Hinata, I'm gonna be real annoyed with the author.

Unfortunately, I think the worst we'll get is a cutesy, pouty scolding, if that. And Sou will use his dick to make it up to her again. It what it is, but Hinata had mixed feelings about it to begin with. She did genuinely want yes as much as she genuinely meant no, and I suspect consequences are going to be the former glossing over the latter.

Guys, it's a setup up for that kind of play.

Because believe it or not, women play a weird game with "consent", where they want you to be pushy, so they say no, and then you be like, "C'mon~" so she can go "Noo~ stop it~"

So Sou read Hinata's intentions correctly. Hintata's saying "No, don't!" but meaning "actually yes"
For the record, this doesn't work IRL anymore because we're now in a "consent is only binary" with absolutely zero nuance mentality, as seen by the commenters.

Sorry no, it doesn't work that way. Ethical play of this kind involves talking things through beforehand and setting up genuine boundaries or ways to communicate boundaries.

I can agree that consent isn't binary, since that's what we're seeing right here, but the reason it doesn't work IRL anymore and consent is legally judged by a binary is because doing it otherwise makes it a lot easier for rapists to get away with rape. It's not just a matter of mentality, but legality and ethics.

She won't be inclined to and possibly couldn't in that world, but if this scenario was in our world, she would be within her rights to have this Sou prosecuted for rape.
Some people would find this unreasonable, and pretty much all women haters do. Because the alternative is letting rapists orchestrate arguments to say "she's just playing games" or "she actually means yes".

 

[MarqFJA87]

You're attributing meaning that is not present.

Oh sure, and I suppose all the pages of her monologuing weak-ass justifications to herself for why it's OK to do it "just once" don't exist at all.

Which is a fancy way of saying, "You just made that shit up, fam."

Saying "pot calling the kettle black" would ignore the fact that here, only the pot is black and the kettle is gleamingly shiny.

 

[savris]

Ah. Miku's not going to be happy bout what's going to happen next

 

[MarqFJA87]

Sorry no, it doesn't work that way. Ethical play of this kind involves talking things through beforehand and setting up genuine boundaries or ways to communicate boundaries.

I can agree that consent isn't binary, since that's what we're seeing right here, but the reason it doesn't work IRL anymore and consent is legally judged by a binary is because doing it otherwise makes it a lot easier for rapists to get away with rape. It's not just a matter of mentality, but legality and ethics.

She won't be inclined to and possibly couldn't in that world, but if this scenario was in our world, she would be within her rights to have this Sou prosecuted for rape.
Some people would find this unreasonable, and pretty much all women haters do. Because the alternative is letting rapists orchestrate arguments to say "she's just playing games" or "she actually means yes".

You're talking real-life ethics. This isn't real life, this is porn, and escapist porn at that, full of wish fulfillment, narrative-driven breaks from reality, and all sorts of other tropes; what you're complaining about is just Tuesday within the manga/anime porn world, so you're just making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Megukagi]

seems my prediction from two chapters ago was accurate after all

the chances may be low, but they're never zero

 

[Megukagi]

I'm gonna give my take on the primary subject of discussion here just because why not

Sou definitely went further than necessary, though got lucky that Hinata was enough of a horndog to be somewhat okay with it (ch. 128 pg. 5)

I do wonder if this could be a Yuri situation where she has two conflicting thought trains and they're fighting for control in her head, considering she seems to be rather torn on the matter (ch. 129 pg. 14)

It has been established that Sou isn't exactly the smartest guy out there (such as ch. 71 & 72 where he pissed two of them off), so him thinking with his wood is in character atp

do I think his actions are justified? no
could this have been worse? yes

 

[Chronigan]

Rape rape rape rape rape.

Nehona knows what rape is. I didn't have to explain the concept to him. But his argument was that if Hinata doesn't get pregnant, then it's not that big of a deal.

I was being facetious.

I also don't care if you take me seriously.

I apologize. I thought you accusing a character of rape in a silly isekai wish fufilment manga meant you wanted to have a serious discussion about what constitutes rape and various defenses.

 

[biologist]

Dang man, I went to check it too, and it really seems like she told him to stop on page 8. In the first speech bubble, “やだぁっ” translates to something like “Nooo!” / “I don’t want to!” and the second one, “やっだぁだぁっ,” translates to something like “N-nooo, nooo!” / “I don’t waaant to!”

Cultural diff.
I think there was a case where foreigner hire Japanese Postitute where he stop once she yell yamete/stop and make her dumbfound why he stop fucking her.

 

[Psychronia]

You're talking real-life ethics. This isn't real life, this is porn, and escapist porn at that, full of wish fulfillment, narrative-driven breaks from reality, and all sorts of other tropes; what you're complaining about is just Tuesday within the manga/anime porn world, so you're just making a mountain out of a molehill.

Whatever you say, bro.
People can engage with a story if they want, as deeply as they want. Mocking and complaining about them for it seems more like you'd rather the content of their observations not happen at all.

 

[positivemangawitch]

Yes, dont listen to her. No? Haha

 

[Geako]

So Sou broke every girl in the way they feared.

Yuri -> making her lovey with a man
Hana -> making her NTR her sister
Hinata -> making her preganant

 

[Nehtiyalyr]

I'm just hoping for no pregnant sex scenes...

(Personal turnoff)

 

[Geako]

I wish Kisa-sensei explore relationship of Suzuki with his sisters.

 

[Crisxpy]

This is kinda sad...
Like come on, the first girl in the series getting preggo is the one WITH PHOBIA of babies?
Poor Hinata

 

[NarlepoaxIII]

Oh sure, and I suppose all the pages of her monologuing weak-ass justifications to herself for why it's OK to do it "just once" don't exist at all.


Saying "pot calling the kettle black" would ignore the fact that here, only the pot is black and the kettle is gleamingly shiny.

They absolutely exist.

Just as much as her blatantly saying that she absolutely does not want to get pregnant, and that, even though it did feel good, she doesn't want it to happen again.

Cumming inside a woman when she's explicitly telling you not to is rape. That's a fact. It doesn't matter if she consented to do it once. Giving consent to do it once is not the same as giving carte blanche to do it as many times as you want.

I'm sorry if that upsets you, but you'll just have to fucking deal with it.

 

[NarlepoaxIII]

I apologize. I thought you accusing a character of rape in a silly isekai wish fufilment manga meant you wanted to have a serious discussion about what constitutes rape and various defenses.

This definitely constitutes rape.

I'm not going to argue that rape shouldn't be depicted in fiction. Any subject can be depicted in fiction, but serious topics demand serious treatment.

Sou betrayed Hinata's trust. She told him to stop, and he didn't. He even apparently got her pregnant, even though that was something he KNEW she was afraid of and didn't want to happen.

That is not something that should just be glossed over like it never happened.

If the story is to maintain its suspension of disbelief, Hinata needs to be upset about this, and Sou needs to acknowledge that he did something very, very wrong.

 

[NarlepoaxIII]

Unfortunately, I think the worst we'll get is a cutesy, pouty scolding, if that.

Hey man, even a minimal effort would be better than nothing.

It wouldn't be what should realistically happen, but it would be better than Hinata just going, "You broke my trust, violated my body, and did the one thing I explicitly never wanted to happen. But oh well, the dick was just so good that it was all worth it."

If that happens, I'm not sure I would be able to keep reading.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapters