Eh, I wouldn't call it a silly porno, like, cmon, this isn't even fucking hentai, and I would argue it can still be compelling without Gotou being another cuck beta male japanese that keeps waiting for the girl while she fucks half the school.
Yeah, but that was Agawa trying to get him girls, pres seems to be a higher slut in the hierarchy, so I won't be surprised if she spreads the word about him.
I don't know, but I find super boring and generic if Gotou is the "pure" nice guy who "saves" Agawa with the power of love, I always felt it made more sense if the story goes one of two ways:
I don't know, but I always hated the idea that the story was maybe going to be about him "saving" her, I find it more compelling if her slutiness isn't treated as a "flaw" to be fixed, that instead both fuck around, figuratively and literally, and then realize there's more to life than sex.
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I just remembered this "rewrite" happening and went to check the comments and saw your 10 comments-chain and that huge amount of word vomit- and there is some interesting and quite well thought out stuff in it but so much morale high ground, woe is me, my IQ is 800 stuff, too.
As for this paragraph, yes, it could be called a silly porno (now) and it evidently is actual fucking hentai. It is. Factually. It is being distributed in a different way with the same characters and (now) mostly the same story.
The part about them realizing there is more to life than sex by just slutting around I agree with, could be one interesting way to take things.
The first part about it being tied to that being "fixing a flaw" is just so stupidly out there, tho. Being concerned for a loved one DOES NOT equal some cringe savior complex, purity fg, white knight, damaged goods writing. That is ONLY YOUR view on things and how you interpret things as/think how others view it as.
Now as for calling others out for making this about him being a "savior" and them liking it due to having some complexes or whatever, where did you get any of that from? Are you reading the same series? He isn't about to "save" her with the "power of love" (ugh..), he is one awkward, horny fool that wants to get with the girl he loves any way possible. Him not fucking around was just one part of it that was playing into her character on a deeper level. That's it. The rest is just the "silly porno" playing out with some characterization and plot sprinkled on top.
You were interpreting/reading into things A LOT and making it about "I don't know, I always hated[...]", "I don't know, but I find super boring[...]" + further assumptions about characters, their intentions and the story as a whole to fit ~your~ liking... just the same as all the other peeps you "called out" (more like trashed on for zero).
Rules for thee but not for me.
Can't help but feel part of the anger is due to some people feeling this was some kind of anti-NTR story, with the good guy mc "saving" the poor broken slut heroine and teaching her true love, when the dude fucking around and being as much of a slut was always more likely to happen.
This directly ties into the above. You are making one rather big assumption about the manga that is only your own while making another assumption about a big part of commenters. You are making stuff up to hate on, lmao. I legit couldn't make out who you are typing about. There is like 1-2 comments out of 100 ~implying~ that stuff you typed out here.
The whole NTR and public use stuff is old news and was digested by most readers that were not filtered by now. Legit makes no sense to bring that up in any way anymore.
Implying authors can't be criticized for writing garbage.
In the year of our lord 2024 we're still putting authors on a pedestal instead of treating them like human beings capable of failure.
Now, in regards to your initial answer to Nosebleed, you completely missed the points made. "Imply" is the magic word. Nosebleed did not "pull that out their ass". You on paper shat on and flamed the majority of commenters while ~implying~ what was typed above. You can't type something that very obviously is negatively connoted and leans into criticizing and react aggressively when a person you criticized answers- in a very coherent and educating way, mind you (loved the part about the editor).
Finally, as for what the real reason for discontent might be? Beats me. People were mad at bad writing and rightfully so, Nosebleed is completely right. This original okayish writing turned into bad writing, which turned into a "rewrite" which in essence is a rerelease of the hentai. All that for some obscure reasons (e.g. wanting to draw the threesome). Some might've looked forward to more complex writing in this version as was the case (like him not slutting around and her inner workings) but hope was lost by the time the teacher came around.
There just is so much stuff to be disappointed at/dissatisfied with. Peeps are allowed to discuss on a forum.
