Drama Queen - Ch. 9 - What's With That Face?

[SumRndmPenguin]

The manga really isn't hitting for me yet. It doesn't feel like its going anywhere for already being 9 chapters in.

 

[S3Studios]

Yea, but like, it's trying to vindicate the uber-racists. Its political message seems to be along the lines of the white genocide conspiracy is real, and the aliens are allegory for the undesirables being present in society. For those unaware, it's the idea that "undesirable" people are "invading" "white" countries with the intent of breeding with and "replacing" the native population. You know, the thing they were referencing in the chapter. Something you seem to ignore is that everything is political, and stuff like allegory appears even when the author wasn't intending on making it.

Highly recommend looking up New Criticism, a criticism technique originating from the 20th century where you ignore everything surrounding a text, including the intentions of the author, and focus on the text itself.

"Everything is political"

So does that mean me taking a shit is political? Or my 3 year ild niece's random drawing of a bird? What are the politics of Mario Kart? What about DBZ? What about me eating a sandwich? Is that political? Are stick figures political? Is hentai political? Is what you really mean to say, "I look at everything through a political lens and am incapable of viewing things any other way?"

 

[K_Takuya]

This is a good time to remind everyone that for your own sake, it’s wiser to not engage in political arguments unless you’re formally educated in the matter and able to emotionally detach yourself from the arguments, cause this chapter smells like it will attract a certain type of people online leading to a certain type of arguments

 

[Gimmy]

LMAO, he starts talking about how the alien population is going to double, but don't worry because alien food is so good.
It's literally a /pol/ comic.

 

[Dalteeno]

The manga really isn't hitting for me yet. It doesn't feel like its going anywhere for already being 9 chapters in.

Agreed. If it can't make me care about the characters or the story in the next 5 - 10 chapters I will probably drop it. Hope everyone else who likes it enjoys the ride 🙏

 

[jojoka]

"Everything is political"

So does that mean me taking a shit is political? Or my 3 year ild niece's random drawing of a bird? What are the politics of Mario Kart? What about DBZ? What about me eating a sandwich? Is that political? Are stick figures political? Is hentai political? Is what you really mean to say, "I look at everything through a political lens and am incapable of viewing things any other way?"

The quote should be "Everything is political if you're arrogant enough."

You can attach a political meaning to literally everything if you're biased enough because humans are arrogant and see things through their own perception as the truth. Someone can see a picture of an ant carrying a leaf and say it represents the poor class's struggle in a leftwing sense or the idea of the self made man in a right wing sense. It's really just people's personal pattern recognition they state as a fact of truth of something.

 

[Njin]

What I don't get about this series, or rather, how people on here interpret it: It's written by a japanese, right? Mostly intended for a japanese audience? What kind of migration problems does Japan actually face? And if it does, are they comparable in any way to the wests? It's not like japan is taking in immigrants from the same countries as germany or france; wikipedia suggests most immigrants to japan are from china, south korea, and vietnam, and those should be different for all intents and purposes.
I am sceptical about reading this series as an allegory for migration chiefly for this reason - because never in my life have I ever read a manga that wasn't chiefly aimed at their domestic market, and old mangaka tended to have a hateboner for the U.S anyway, getting their digs in by making the U.S into villains or incompetents. I don't know how old Ichikawa is, and I suppose it's not impossible, but it'd be pretty bizarro if a japanese author wrote about western issues from a perspective that is especially parseable by westerners.... while primarily writing for a japanese demographic.

 

[MangaField]

What I don't get about this series, or rather, how people on here interpret it: It's written by a japanese, right? Mostly intended for a japanese audience? What kind of migration problems does Japan actually face? And if it does, are they comparable in any way to the wests? It's not like japan is taking in immigrants from the same countries as germany or france; wikipedia suggests most immigrants to japan are from china, south korea, and vietnam, and those should be different for all intents and purposes.
I am sceptical about reading this series as an allegory for migration chiefly for this reason - because never in my life have I ever read a manga that wasn't chiefly aimed at their domestic market, and old mangaka tended to have a hateboner for the U.S anyway, getting their digs in by making the U.S into villains or incompetents. I don't know how old Ichikawa is, and I suppose it's not impossible, but it'd be pretty bizarro if a japanese author wrote about western issues from a perspective that is especially parseable by westerners.... while primarily writing for a japanese demographic.

IF there is reference to real world, the aliens are very clearly representing US americans, not Arabs or Africans. The aliens are technologically superior which the Arabs/Africans are not, compared to Europeans/Americans. But the US was and kinda still is technologically superior to Japan, especially in the decades after WWII. And we know that US americans (soldiers) are obnoxious, loud and rude, just like the aliens in the manga.
So yes, it is from the perspective from a Japanese (the older ones, anyway). That‘s how they see Americans - invading aliens.

 

[Dalteeno]

IF there is reference to real world, the aliens are very clearly representing US americans, not Arabs or Africans. The aliens are technologically superior which the Arabs/Africans are not, compared to Europeans/Americans. But the US was and kinda still is technologically superior to Japan, especially in the decades after WWII. And we know that US americans (soldiers) are obnoxious, loud and rude, just like the aliens in the manga.
So yes, it is from the perspective from a Japanese (the older ones, anyway). That‘s how they see Americans - invading aliens.

This manga exists because of logan paul

 

[UberNomad]

LMAO, he starts talking about how the alien population is going to double, but don't worry because alien food is so good.
It's literally a /pol/ comic.

He's in business of contract killing them. Of cource he'd be for more of them.

 

[AbuHajaar]

ETO member ass speech

 

[damnilo]

I do like that the aliens are vague enough that people who try to attribute them to a specific real like group look silly.

It’s a manga that uses political themes to tell a story, not a story meant to tell a political message.

That's something a filthy alien would say. Go back to your planet squid

 

[KeiB]

The student was completely right about the liberal, pro-immigr-I-mean-alien professor.

 

[TinyPrawnie]

What kind of migration problems does Japan actually face? And if it does, are they comparable in any way to the wests? It's not like japan is taking in immigrants from the same countries as germany or france; wikipedia suggests most immigrants to japan are from china, south korea, and vietnam, and those should be different for all intents and purposes.

So this is slightly out of date. In recent years (since COVID) Japan has been accepting more Third Worlder immigrants. Kurds seem to be somewhat infamous in particular, and the Muslim population is also growing. Compared to a lot of the West, Japan is about 20-30 years behind on this. The idea of a Japanese looking at recent political developments, then looking at the West to see how that might turn out, is quite feasible.

Taking the idea that Drama Queen is anti-immigrant propaganda/activism (which I'm not totally convinced that it is), you could interpret it to be a warning of sorts to the Japanese, or a Japanese person's perspective on the West's immigration.

 

[AnotherRat]

"I want you to cum with me"

Kinky.

 

[catsdontsmile]

I don't think being "Asshole" is enough to meet the qualifications of being murdered and being eaten, Not a single one seemed inhumanly evil enough to warrant being devoured. They don't deserve to be revered like the society currently does, but they don't deserve to be eaten either. Every human in this manga is on the extreme side of the spectrum.

Unless the aliens actually did stage the meteorite event in order to invade earth in a way that’d be more cost efficient than an all out war. There’s certainly something fishy going on with the amount of reverence they are getting from humans. And I’m sorry but the argument of the professor who actually murders aliens for a living made no sense. “Why would they do that and then share their technology?” That’s not an argument, that’s a question with very shallow reasoning. For example in the short sci fi story to serve men aliens cure every illness, stop every war and share their technology because they were planning to eat humans and they wanted us to be healthy and plentiful

 

[catsdontsmile]

So this is slightly out of date. In recent years (since COVID) Japan has been accepting more Third Worlder immigrants. Kurds seem to be somewhat infamous in particular, and the Muslim population is also growing. Compared to a lot of the West, Japan is about 20-30 years behind on this. The idea of a Japanese looking at recent political developments, then looking at the West to see how that might turn out, is quite feasible.

Taking the idea that Drama Queen is anti-immigrant propaganda/activism (which I'm not totally convinced that it is), you could interpret it to be a warning of sorts to the Japanese, or a Japanese person's perspective on the West's immigration.

Jesus Christ even Japan is taking Muslims in? One look at Europe (or its history) makes it very clear what a terrible idea that is. I hope they don’t give in to western pressure. They should do something about their fertility rate but mass immigration is not the answer. That being said, this chapter struck me as the author being against people who oppose mass immigration (negative depiction of the no eyes student) however the argument of the professor was extremely shallow (whY woUlD theY dO thaT?) in the face that the aliens executed an invasion that was much more cost efficient than an all out war and considering the strange reverence they are recieving. I 100% expect for the meteorite story to have been staged, but I found the counterpoint by the professor to be so weak and preachy that I’m starting to question what quality of writing to expect from this author

 

[OmbreVengeresse]

I still can't understand where the manga wants to take us. It can only end badly for our 2 protagonists if alien technology is superior to that of humans, they will quickly be found.

 

[ryuumajin]

Except, you know, all of the early chapters showing us that pretty much every single Alien is an asshole.

..... including the female one who asked Nomamoto to spy on her spouse just to find out the spouse only prepares for their anniversary and end up treating Nomamoto food?

 

[catsdontsmile]

..... including the female one who asked Nomamoto to spy on her spouse just to find out the spouse only prepares for their anniversary and end up treating Nomamoto food?

Yeah they both treat the mc like shit. Clearly he didn’t mean they are shit to other aliens but to humans duh