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@blackbunii
“If she came as a reader and was nice about it, I would treat her like one. But she came with hostile and hate toward us. She has been constantly sending her complaints and hate speech in our discord (which was deleted by her before she ran away) and also on MD.”

But from what I’ve seen Atris, and if we’re talking about when Harmone went to EJ’s server with critiques about one of EJ’s projects, their response was only a bit harsh, but civil. The content would always be hard to hear regardless. If anything, in comparison to especially the wording of the DM you’ve sent them on MD, it was easier to handle.

From what I remember, her messages were all pruned when you banned her instead of her “deleting them when she ran away.” I saw this discussed in the staff lounge?

Harmone has done, to their best of their ability (from sniping a series, typing these comments here on MD, going to the server’s lounge), of making this situation public. Though I don’t agree with sniping a series, I don’t believe this really makes them out to be as anyone who ran away. And this transparency is necessary.

Your response to these comments, as a PM, are... to me, disappointing. And this isn’t the first time... I remember. As former staff, I did like the people I met there, and I even continue to visit the server and play hubbybot — so I do feel disappointed to see you handle the reputation of your group through cursing, deflecting the blame and overall a close minded attitude.

This situation isn’t a random act of cyberbullying or an undiagnosed mental illness, but a symptom of an issue left on too long. I hope you can take the time to see that, sincerely, for the sake of the future of EJ.
 
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Dear tiffu,
I do appreciate you and your work for EJ but you left before things got clarified. We thought the bot pruned her messages but after we tested it out, it seemed like she deleted her own messages cos all her "old" messages while she was a staff still remain. Should've confirmed before saying misleading stuff. If they are as you said, why didn't they stay to talk it out with us, rather than leaving right after sending a bunch of complaints and hate speech? What would you make out of this action?

Indeed, I have a lot of issues with her just from her actions alone (joined, stole the trans and snipped our projects), not to mention her unkindly words to us FIRST. You have YET to see half of the things WE've seen from this individual. Just because you were an ex-staff, doesn't mean you know everything about what happened. I'm not a saint. You don't expect me not to be nice when someone comes into my place and beat me up now, do you?

I'm so glad you're here to care about our future despite the fact you were the main cause for the delay of a certain series. And we were kind enough to shoulder the blame for you, but you didn't even offer an explanation to us much later on or to your "friends" who came to bash us or to the readers who keep complaining about the speed. I'm sure you took the time to see this :)
 
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@diiana
Whatever you may have heard, you have not talked to us directly to hear our side of the story, and as such have an inherently flawed POV and understanding of the situation
Did you come to us to hear our side of the story regarding the snipe, the speed or how we operate? Or you just jumped on the bandwagon and criticized us like the rest?

I don’t condone sniping at all
I want to keep this as open and transparent as possible
Eh...only you and your team know what you did. Do I need to point out? It seems like not everyone in your team knows about what happened LOL. Btw, we still haven't heard any explanation from you regarding RCM.

I'm very honored to have you cared about us this much. It'd be nice if you can spare the same caring for your own readers and server as I heard quite a lot of complaints from them too ;)
 
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@blackbunii No need to beat around the bush or shade me, I'm fine with discussing this directly and openly. As I've said in our private conversation before, the delay on "Since I became a Saint" is my fault and mine alone. And my "friends" you might be referring to know this too, they watched me take each step towards its completion. I take responsibility for this, I've told you this, and I've apologized. I'll even go forward and write my own apology in the comments of the project for the readers. You can put my name up anywhere you'd like, I won't pretend to not be a part of the problem -- but it never ended or even started with Saint. Bringing this up doesn't disregard my points for how EJ continues to pick up more projects past its staff load, lay claim to more and more series when it hasn't caught up on others and, in your actions, respond incredibly unprofessionally and ultimately immaturely... disappointingly so.

And for that last part, this has been a problem. It's been a problem since the beginning, since the start of EJ in WW's server. So many of people I started out with in EJ, where are they now? Why haven't they stayed themselves? There's a reason for this, but instead of seeing this as a place to grow from, where improvement can be made, all criticism is seen as an attack. If it's not agreement with you, it's an attack on you, they must be against you. And relations continue poorly and poorly -- but of course, it's all those other groups fault, they're just bullying you all, they must be mentally ill, of course.

You're right, I don't know everything that happened nor do I claim to, but maybe I know more than you think -- and as ex-staff, I also know how you've acted before and how you're acting openly here, is sad. Reading that DM you sent to Harmone was really the worst part, can you really justify acting like that when you represent a group? How has nothing changed?

Atris, you deleted her message in lounge yourself. "Stay and talk it out with us," you banned her. She has been talking it out with you, she's talking right here. Its out in the open because relations with you and previous criticism of EJ has been met with hostility and this transparency and accountability is needed. It isn't something out the blue, this has been a build up over time and I know for sure that these concerns you're seeing from others aren't the first time you're seeing them.

But I remember our conversations before, this conversation now and it doesn't take much to see that this won't go on much farther or conclusively. Say what you will, I still I wanted to say my part. Truly, my best to EJ, I have no grudges to its staff. Best, tiffu.
 
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@blackbunii

Did you come to us to hear our side of the story regarding the snipe, the speed or how we operate? Or you just jumped on the bandwagon and criticized us like the rest?

I came to try to explain and point out why people have been having issues with EJ, particularly after seeing how negatively you reacted.

Btw, we still haven't heard any explanation from you regarding RCM.

I’m not sure why you’re bringing up RCM at this point in time. I contacted you about it, and you put me in contact with Cap. The two of us discussed the topic and agreed that since both teams had already done work on the series, we would both release our own versions.

I still have the time stamps and history to show that this was discussed before we released anything. If you really didn’t agree with what Cap and I discussed, you could have been vocal about this earlier. Again, I’m not sure why you’re bringing this up way after the fact.

Eh...only you and your team know what you did. Do I need to point out? It seems like not everyone in your team knows about what happened LOL.

Only a few people who happened to be from a single scan group worked on the series along with Solace Translations. That’s why it was released under Solace.

It'd be nice if you can spare the same caring for your own readers and server as I heard quite a lot of complaints from them too ;)

Are you receiving complaints about our server? You’re welcome to direct them our way so we can see what the issues are and how to solve them. We haven’t received any complaints, but we are happy to hear people out.

I'm so glad you're here to care about our future despite the fact you were the main cause for the delay of a certain series. And we were kind enough to shoulder the blame for you, but you didn't even offer an explanation to us much later on or to your "friends" who came to bash us or to the readers who keep complaining about the speed. I'm sure you took the time to see this :)

This response to your ex-staff member is exactly what the issue is. Up until now, you’ve been defending your staff, saying that they’re busy and have their own lives to live. That’s not and has never been the issue. Of course everyone has their own priorities. That’s why people have been coming to you and saying that EJ might want to stop expanding the current project list and focus the limited staff members on what’s already there. But now you’re blaming someone for delaying a chapter, which is honestly so incredibly duplicitous and disrespectful.
 
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Everywan, calm down~ ◝(●˙꒳˙●)◜

Let's just drop it, move on, and get back to our own respective corners.
Online drama and fighting is too time-consuming, when we're all just trying to do the same thing which is to put out content and share it with our readers.
Scan groups don't get enough credit for all that they go through, thank you for all your hard work~

So, deep breaths. Inhale. ₍₍ ◝('ω'◝) ⁾⁾ ₍₍ (◟'ω')◟ ⁾⁾ Exhale.
Ya'll are too riled up and taking things too personally.
Let's chillax. ٩(●˙▿˙●)۶ For the sake of our readers and staff.

- Cap.
(P.S. Idk how to ping on here, I'm new to MD c: Just a forever lurker on this site, but this is addressed to everyone below vvv)
 
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Does anyone know what is the name of the manga or have a link to The artist who made,
The picture that the endless journey use in here.
 
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Hi! Thank youuu for translating all those manga. Hoping for a faster release.

And may I request for you guys to stop picking any more projects? :( Some of the manga on your list is being neglected because of newer series. Saaad.
 
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Thank you for the massive update in different series! I hope the staff gets a nice rest for awhile and thank you for all of the effort ( ˘ ³˘)♥
 
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Um, have you dropped The Duchess of the Attic, or are you waiting for more updates
 
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I would also love to know which series (or artist) it is you used for the group picture above. :)
 
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@Luke_chase red credit page is Ojou to Banken-kun, the green one is just fan art. Recruit page is Rental Oniichan. Hope this helps! :D

@Syrina you will know in about a week *wink*
 
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You guys are good translators, but you need to choose them better lol. At least it was short, so thanks for the effort.
 
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@Darkmeep haha are you talking about Targeted? It had me in the first chapter, ngl 😭😭😭
It's kinda hard to tell from just one chap but I hope our on-going and future series will be better 😩
 

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