Eroi Koto Suru Tame ni Kyonyuu Bishoujo Dorei o Katta Hazu ga, Oshishou-sama to Shitawa Rete Omotta Toori ni Ikanaku Naru Hanashi - Vol. 3 Ch. 15 - A…

[Nevos]

They quite obviously enjoy hunting humans, hence the basement full of corpses. Look at how the succubus changed her personality when she thought she was in control. The persecution angle is just the author attempting to make you feel bad for them. It's your go-to cheap attempt at an emotional backstory, it's pretty boilerplate. Personally I'm sick of authors trying to make every demon out there have some tragic backstory that's supposed to absolve them of the whole "My hobbies are killing humans, eating humans, and killing humans" aspect.

While I really dislike that kind of writing as well and agree that it's too often used as an easy and cheap method to try and give a character or even an entire race a tragic backstory, I really fail to see how that matters here, considering she didn't do any of those things. She was even being mistreated really badly by the other succubi for not being like them. Also, it didn't exactly feel like the author was trying particularly hard to make the reader feel bad for the other succubi with how they treated her. Plus, giving a reason for their behavior isn't the same as saying that it's ok what they're doing or that you now must feel bad for all of them or whatever else.

 

[ssj4maiko]

I don't know if "Amora" has the meaning of "love" in other languages, but "Amor" and "Amore" do, so I believe these would be the proper translations.

Her name is read as AMORU, which doesn't fit with Amora. The one that would fit the best is likely "Amor"

 

[saredesu]

Papa dwarf is amazing. Not only he survived snu snu with a succubus, he made a child instead

 

[Veru-sama]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[dy4y]

I don't know if "Amora" has the meaning of "love" in other languages, but "Amor" and "Amore" do, so I believe these would be the proper translations.

Her name is read as AMORU, which doesn't fit with Amora. The one that would fit the best is likely "Amor"

Amor isn't a given name but, while pretty recent (like, 2017-ish), Amora is. Not 100% about the etymology but it seems to stem from amor with -a added to make it feminine. So personally I think Amora is fine

 

[Ghost-0]

"You can't change where and how you are born, but you can change how do you live your life. And don't let anybody tell you otherwise"

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........Kinda funny that now from the 3 girls Halo live with, Amor probably will be the one that actually get and maybe entertain her request to be laid. And on the offensive side nonetheless

 

[MidnighTea]

"That's Amore!". Okay, I said it so no one else has to.

... that said. If this ever becomes an anime? I'd want Senzawa to voice this character, esp. given Amor's legal loli status. But getting that contract could be shark-infested waters for the production company.

 

[Dooble]

Personally I feel like this manga has done a good job with portraying the Adventurer's Guild as brutal and ruthless with the succubi, and here the succubi as brutal and ruthless with everyone else. If Amor(a) hadn't been abused, the guards who found her would have killed her like all the others. You can see, on page 18, the corpse of a succubus also dressed in rags and looking the same size as her, and so probably a child. But they killed all of them except Amor, and would have killed her if she hadn't ran away successfully.

I think withholding the extent of the succubi's crimes until now was also a good decision; before we had only really seen their persecution justified in terms of the possible damage they could do, if they enchanted people to murder each other. (There was also mention of leaving people drained and one guy in a coma, but that wasn't the way it was framed by Espada.) Here we see a very damning picture of them, but if you read between the lines, it's clear why they're like this. That's not an excuse, but it's no wonder that succubi society would be so focused on strength and shunning the weak, and ruthlessly using others.

And when succubi commit mass kidnapping and enslaving people to use until they die, with nothing but violent predation on others, it's clear why those others will ruthlessly kill them even to the children. But that's not an excuse, either; as we saw it the first time, it was a brutal slaughter of a whole group of people.

It's not revolutionary or anything but I think this was a very good portrayal of how these sorts of cycles of violence and oppression can exist and be an awful, self-perpetuating tragedy. Without making that the focus or explicitly pointing it out, just having it there and plain.

And the main heart of this update was beautiful, even with Halo relying on the text of a children's story and still thinking of Amor as a kid even knowing she's an adult, because she is a fucking idiot. But this did have her open up somewhat about herself to Amor, instead of just fully quoting the book... It also explains to me why Amor acts so childish, despite her age; because she was fucking abused, raised in an emotionally stunted culture, and that on top of having to hide in the ruins all the time.

Why the fuck is this manga so good?

 

[MidnighTea]

Beautiful write-up Dooble, no notes. That is actually some incredibly cutting insight esp. about the cycles of violence and abuse.

 

[jasty]

Thanks for the chapter! I would have just left the name as "Amor" since if the author wanted the name to be Amora they would have used アモラ instead of アモル. Katakana is specifically for foreign words and names. I agree Amora is a prettier name but I don't think it's accurate.

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

I like the character, but I HATE her stupid hair design. That dumb ring around her eye looks like a monocle or something, it doesn't look right, like it's a drawing mistake.

 

[Echo2772]

The whole attempt at a tragic backstory doesn't really work when you come from a race of demons that has a basement of corpses... Just mount her head on the wall and be done with it.

you judge based on human morality there, that doesn't really work in a world of monsters and magic, like, can Demons be seen as monsters if the only food they can consume is humans? how is it different from us killing animals? or if an immortal doesn't value human life like we do. There could be solutions to the problem that would avoid the whole murder happy thing and hunting thing but i doubt humanity would care about that

 

[AncientWatcher]

Amora? Sounds more like Amoral.

Still, her life was a living hell that cannot be justified.

 

[SpringLily]

Is this addapted from LN/WN? If so where could I read it?

MangaDex has the Adaptation tag, so I believe you are correct. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the source when I rummaged through the links. Hopefully someone who actually knows Japanese will have more luck. Sorry I couldn't be of help.

Thanks for the chapter! I would have just left the name as "Amor" since if the author wanted the name to be Amora they would have used アモラ instead of アモル. Katakana is specifically for foreign words and names. I agree Amora is a prettier name but I don't think it's accurate.

Thanks! Chapter has been updated. I genuinely don't know any Japanese, so I appreciate the correction. Amora is my preference, but I don't want my taste to corrupt the author's work.

 

[Dooble]

Is this addapted from LN/WN? If so where could I read it?

I found it (in Japanese) here, on Kakuyomu and Novema:

https://kakuyomu.jp/works/1177354054887353336
https://novema.jp/book/n1650240

71 chapters on both sites; though there was some mention when I was digging around that the digital volumes of the mangas come with extra new prose, which might not be available otherwise? Someone else not relying on machine translation may have better luck with that, I just dug around on the author's Twitter to find the sites they use to post web novels on.

I really ought to start learning Japanese already, it'd be nice to look at the other stories this author has...

 

[KuroKurome]

Oh wow.... More... Please more... Onegaishimasu !!!

 

[CrazyXManz]

"When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie
That's Amore"
- Dean Martin

 

[smormu]

This is slightly better than most fantasy manga tragic demon backstories in that it doesn’t just say “oh no the humans raided us and killed my mom or whatever” to try and gain cheap sympathy. Instead the author acknowledges that they are demons who eat people and makes Amor sympathetic by having her be a hybrid who was also mistreated by the demons for being half dwarf and mistreated by the humans for being half succubus.

Amor is absolved from the evil of being a life force eating demon because she isn’t able to hunt and therefore never actually committed any crime and by having her have been abused by her family it makes it clear that her tragic backstory is just hers and not “oh the poor demons who eat people have it so hard”.

Demons are supposed to be evil, the “subversion” of that by just making them misunderstood people with horns is so overdone that it’s now more original to have them just be evil like in frieren. Technically the demons in frieren aren’t evil, they just evolved to prey on humans and are no more evil than a lion is to a gazelle.

I think it’s pretty clear that Amor is not normal, she definitely has some of that demon instinct in her. I also think she is actually still a child, she might be an adult in succubus years, but she probably ages slower because she’s half dwarf. Obviously the real answer is that the author wants to say “btw she’s legal, she just looks like a kid”. Like sure I believe that she could be short because she’s half dwarf, but if she really was an adult then why isn’t she better developed? Where does that come from? If anything her being half dwarf would make her even thicker. Like no, I don’t buy the idea that succubus + dwarf = adult loli. That’s definitely a child, someone call Chris Handsome.

 

[Sknite]

It's pretty clear to me she isn't especially pleased with her succubus heritage. She's an outcast among outcasts, barely tolerated by her own kind and hated by all others.

She seems to have pretty much always wanted to live as non-succubi do, with the way she idolizes love. Unfortunately she had no choice in the matter simply because of the circumstances of her birth. That's not an unbelievable story, many people are stuck with hardships they never had any agency in avoiding or overcoming.

She never chose to be born, or to be born a succubus, it was someone else who made those decisions for her. She has no choice in what other succubi do or the reputation succubi have as a result, whether they deserve it or not (and those things are always more complicated than a "yes" or a "no").

There's real-life parallels you could easily draw that are generally considered unjust in our world. (I wouldn't necessarily talk about them in the specific though, as comparing the trod-upon to demons is a bit tone-deaf lmao)

Is the whole "give a baddy some tragic backstory to humanize them" trope a tad overplayed? In recent times I would say yes. But that doesn't make it a bad trope.

...this is a lot to write in regards to a story that goes "i wanna make out with cute girls so I'm gonna buy a person to own."