Fool Night - Vol. 5 Ch. 38 - Then What Should We Do?

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People crying and blaming the transfloration when it's the one thing maintaining them all alive with fresh air on their sunless planet...

Sure it ain't perfect in its current state and lots of shady and evil things going on around it, but it's still needed focking idiots
 
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It's a little odd that they're openly discussing their plan in the middle of a busy street.
Given what happens to political dissidents in this world (like Megu and her father), prisoners being eligible to be transflored due to becoming property of the state, and the institute being well aware of the black market it actively has a hand in, the citizens do have something of an argument against the system, even if they're ignorant to their dependency on it.
 
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People crying and blaming the transfloration when it's the one thing maintaining them all alive with fresh air on their sunless planet...

Sure it ain't perfect in its current state and lots of shady and evil things going on around it, but it's still needed focking idiots
For those of us who aren’t Machiavellians, paying people to commit suicide to produce oxygen while taxing them into desperation to fund those payments is an objectively anti-moral policy, and hence not something people should support unless they’re incredibly desperate. Even then, most would suggest just applying it to people who would die otherwise while ensuring there isn’t an awful perverse incentive.

The common-sense opposition to the current regime isn’t necessarily anti transfloration, but it is anti oxygen tax. If the tragedy of the commons results in people having to wear oxygen masks when outside, then so be it. Though community domes with their own oxygen limitations that are small enough to have a sense of unity would be a better option. Perhaps the opposition being ineffective and corrupt even though a better opposing policy could exist is intentional, this would sadly mirror reality.

Practically speaking, the scenario is unrealistic, as there’s no reason humans would be required over livestock, or why a fusion of animal and plant could even produce oxygen in a sunless world. The author has created this scenario for the purpose of it being a morally unsolvable problem. But as with all such problems, the answer is never big government and heavy taxation.
 
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If the tragedy of the commons results in people having to wear oxygen masks when outside, then so be it. Though community domes with their own oxygen limitations that are small enough to have a sense of unity would be a better option. Perhaps the opposition being ineffective and corrupt even though a better opposing policy could exist is intentional, this would sadly mirror reality.

Practically speaking, the scenario is unrealistic, as there’s no reason humans would be required over livestock, or why a fusion of animal and plant could even produce oxygen in a sunless world. The author has created this scenario for the purpose of it being a morally unsolvable problem.
If people have to buy their own oxygen, then poor people die on the streets. Where does that oxygen for those masks come from? How much money does it take to buy those lives? How many people can pay that?

If the government requires a heavy tax to fund public oxygen, then you get the horrors of Austercity. Compensated + voluntary transfloration gives people some agency in this disaster, but the vulnerable are forced into it by the Austercity gangs who seize the money. Their lives are short and miserable, but the citizens think the victims are living it up so they riot.

The problem isn't big state vs. big pharma, but that survival in this world depends on oxygen which is really fucking expensive in lives and money.

The best solution is honestly more research into cheaper transfloration. Maybe that comes from animals like you're talking about. The thing is, we've already been told that they can build enough nuclear reactors to get oxygen from water (Ch 20). But this system works for just enough people that positive change is being stopped.

Everyone is complicit in thinking the world just has to be this way.
 
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Shows that the conflict in the manga is quite a good, considering everyone is discussing it here as well. I also like how in just one chapter i went from thinking that the doctor was used by the bad guy against his will or something, to thinking that the doctor is a genuine psycho. good stuff.
 
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i appreciate outright going 'we're here to fucking arrest your brother'.

You know what occurs to me? Transfloration rests on allowing society to continue as usual. Living in a city. Working capitalism. The rich. The poor. You don't have to restructure society around, say. Communal living that distributes resources (oxygen) or removing the monetary system limiting society as the earth literally dies.

It just adds gears to continue on "like normal" but with death of the unfortunate. Capitalism already has those levers. What a fun, grim model.
 

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