Futoku no Guild - Vol. 15 Ch. 85 - Waking From A Dream

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Can someone please remind me why those ungrateful old geezer wanted to kill Fone? I forgot since this arc was so long
"Oh shit, she's talking to Hades? He definitely hates us; he must be plotting our demise! Fone must be working with him! It must be because of her that he can even keep human form! If we kill her, Hades will be too weak to kill us!"

And you saw how well that worked out for them.
 

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That "Don't think killing someone will give you the result you want" line from page 26 really annoy me.

Monster appealing to government seems like a bad idea, especially when the latter think you should die

And it also seems like a good way to make sure the guards are even more prepared for an attack
The government kills hostile monsters for population control or the ones get too close to towns.
I assume some unlucky monsters are slain for their body parts/meat though.

Useful monsters are allowed to live like the Rock cows. Intelligent, helpful monsters become "local gods", useful tools/pets/slaves, or are even allowed to become Guards (Shock).
Those two squirrels that clean Enome's Guild house are monsters.

A talking monster that has high enough intelligence to converse would be able to negotiate with the government, the only thing that might be an issue is if a cruel, greedy (looking for glory/higher pay/promotion), or hotblooded (just wants to fight strong monsters and cares about nothing else) Guard gets to the Monster and forces them to fight.

Hades would be able to negotiate with the government with ease, he's lived among humans, understands our society, and is himself educated. He even had TWO GOVERNMENT OFFICALS willing to investigate his situation and help him.
He chose not to accept that help.
Only the old people in ONE town don't like him, they don't matter when he can go literally anywhere else and appeal to the higher governmental structure.

Even if we consider a NAMED that LOOKS like a dangerous monster:
Imagine if the Monkey King approached Kikuru's village and refused to fight and especially if he was lucky enough to be able to speak with Kikuru or the girls.

Kikuru might simply try sniping the Monkey King, but luckily for the monkey king that wouldn't work anyway, so Kikuru would be forced to listen to the Monkey King yelling that he doesn't want to engage in violence - and he would get a chance to speak.

Unfortunately the Monkey King's only option even if he did engage in conversation with humanity was
1) Be a useful tool that kills Monsters or scares them away from towns.
The government would be perfectly fine with a tool that exists to kill other monsters or scare other monsters away from human settlements. That's what a "local god" is.

Assuming Monkey King denies that (it would be mean abandoning his followers that aren't intelligent enough to avoid attacking humans) - his terms would likely be:

1) Keep all your followers in whatever land we give you, away from humanity (he'd probably lose his mountain if the mountain is useful to humanity)
2) We will tell guards to avoid your territory.
3) We will kill your followers if they attack or approach our guards/citizens.
4) If any guards attack you or your followers, you must appeal to us, if you kill/harm guards without "justification" we will declare you humanity's enemy and exterminate you.

So basically he'd be a 3rd class citizen that would have to chase away rogue hunters (trying not to harm them) from his lands and deal with discrimination + whatever additional bullshit the Government would impose on him over time... but he'd most likely be able to live if he remained peaceful and accepted the occasional deaths of his comrades. (because there will always be dipshits that will go to his territory to stir up trouble or maybe his own monster followers will be too stupid to listen or simply lose respect for him).
A sad life that he decided he didn't want - hence his entire arc.
 
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woah, world tree arbiters reminds me of the war machines from Nausica that's super cool :meguupog:
 
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Hades: I saved them and they're complaining about their PROPERTY?
Saitama:

-First time?
 
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The arbiters look awesome and the story is going well, can't wait to see how it concludes
 
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Thanks for the chapter, Kredim.



Goddamnit, San--not you too. :|

I know that she has no reason not to be in the self-righteous goody-goody group Kikuru's a part of, but it still hurts to see. If only Hades could force them to see what he had to suffer at the hands of the villagers Kikuru and his people are hellbent on protecting; what makes it all so much worse is that Hades didn't get started until they put a hit out on Fone.

Speaking of, exactly how are Kikuru and his group still fighting with full willpower? Have they been made aware of nothing the reader knows (e.g., the assassination of Fone)? Are they questioning nothing at all, doing nothing more than occasionally frowning and navelgazing emptyheadedly? Fone's killer effectively confessed his guilt at least twice, and Kikuru's group not only felt the need to protect that illusionist, they--especially Kikuru, who automatically attacked upon sighting an opening--still have hostile bearing toward Hades. Is the only solution Hades ending up exactly as Fone did--killed for feelings?

I remember someone arguing well against the points I brought up--that person got me to reconsider my perspective of this situation a bit. I don't remember who it was, but I remember the main thing that got me to think twice was the indiscriminate nature of Hades' attack. Now, I wonder how any of what I was told can hold up after all we've seen--especially since the guilt of the villagers who started this mess is repeatedly revealed (albeit piecemeal) to Kikuru's group as well, and they just protected an individual who made it clear how much he earned the death he was about to get.

Fone was a victim, and now the people expect to make Hades one, too. Who was he supposed to go to for redress in the first place--the people who wanted him dead in the past or the people now trying to kill him?
Do you really need to ask, we've literally seen him transfer his memories to only one person, Wanda. All the people there, the time mage, the cop non of the people there has seen his memories and he's done trusting humans. He only showed Wanda because it hurt him/her?

Truth doesnt care anyways because he just wants to fight.

The muscle head does whatever truth tells him.

Kikuru kinda only cares about doing his job and his group basically just does what he tells them.and as from previous chapters we've seen even when monsters are innocent or defended themselves, or instigated to attack they are always in the wrong and must be killed. There's literally only been one exception and thats because most just view him as a pet of a tamer.
 
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How the fuck the hentai like ecchi manga have more plot than some A tier shit (DAYUM) this shit is good tho
 
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what a f-up morality,
one who wrong get defended,
yet the victim, one who wanna revenge get attacked,

just because they are different..
 

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