Genjitsushugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki - Vol. 3 Ch. 15 - The Story of a Certain Adventurer
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Those adventurers were properly introduced in the WN/LN.
Apparently, the manga decided to skip the "the King's doll is an adventurer" arc during which they were introduced.
Those adventurers were properly introduced in the WN/LN.
Apparently, the manga decided to skip the "the King's doll is an adventurer" arc during which they were introduced.
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They just skipped their introduction. They were supposed to show up earlier, when the king was testing out how flexible his ability was. It's explained in this chapter, but he roleplays a mute adventurer hiding inside a full body doll suit onesie thing, and that thief/scout girl, Juno, was part of a team he joined.
There is a dungeon inside this country that spawns monsters, and on sheer coincidence, an abnormal appeared and grew to an unusual size. The party fled, but Soma sent a subjugation squad from his private army to kill it before it got any bigger. The king doesn't give himself much free time since he was buried in paperwork, and working as an adventurer from his remote controlled dolls is how he spends his time when the castle forces him to take days off.
Randomly cutting away from the food crisis and political trouble into dungeon diving would have been a little jarring, from a story narrative, I guess. But that aside, Juno is my favorite character. Not to be confused with Juna, the lorelei. The chapter was well done, I think.
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They just skipped their introduction. They were supposed to show up earlier, when the king was testing out how flexible his ability was. It's explained in this chapter, but he roleplays a mute adventurer hiding inside a full body doll suit onesie thing, and that thief/scout girl, Juno, was part of a team he joined.
There is a dungeon inside this country that spawns monsters, and on sheer coincidence, an abnormal appeared and grew to an unusual size. The party fled, but Soma sent a subjugation squad from his private army to kill it before it got any bigger. The king doesn't give himself much free time since he was buried in paperwork, and working as an adventurer from his remote controlled dolls is how he spends his time when the castle forces him to take days off.
Randomly cutting away from the food crisis and political trouble into dungeon diving would have been a little jarring, from a story narrative, I guess. But that aside, Juno is my favorite character. Not to be confused with Juna, the lorelei. The chapter was well done, I think.
Edited for typos.
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@Talismaster If Overlord managed to do it, this should have been easy for a competent writer.
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Hahaha. Ironic of you to compare it to Overlord, when people complain about how "jarring" it is when the tone shifts from "foolish dense, oblivious skeleton" to "all living beings I don't care about can die final boss". And that's not including the complaints I see about people having their backstory dropped on us just to die, or the lizards and goblins arcs I see from anime-watchers and other LN readers. I like Overlord, but I can't ignore the fact it gets a fair amount of complaints. The Holy Kingdom volumes were delicious.
But I digress. In any case, it happened in the LN just fine, so maybe it's the manga production team that are having that problem with balance.
Hahaha. Ironic of you to compare it to Overlord, when people complain about how "jarring" it is when the tone shifts from "foolish dense, oblivious skeleton" to "all living beings I don't care about can die final boss". And that's not including the complaints I see about people having their backstory dropped on us just to die, or the lizards and goblins arcs I see from anime-watchers and other LN readers. I like Overlord, but I can't ignore the fact it gets a fair amount of complaints. The Holy Kingdom volumes were delicious.
But I digress. In any case, it happened in the LN just fine, so maybe it's the manga production team that are having that problem with balance.
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@Mnuchinboo
bring a better argument than "stop hating things i like"
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oh I certainly agree, the anime adaptation did a shit job in the tone shifts, still comparing, the manga adaptations for this and Overlord, I can see how it could have been done. So maybe I was a bit harsh on this series for its blatant use of "everyone else is retarded except the MC", thats the original authors fault, not the manga artist, who probably just got the direction of skip this shit.
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pulling statisctics out of your ass to prop up your opinion is a terrible argument, come up with something better.
bring a better argument than "stop hating things i like"
@Talismaster
oh I certainly agree, the anime adaptation did a shit job in the tone shifts, still comparing, the manga adaptations for this and Overlord, I can see how it could have been done. So maybe I was a bit harsh on this series for its blatant use of "everyone else is retarded except the MC", thats the original authors fault, not the manga artist, who probably just got the direction of skip this shit.
@Rickymex
pulling statisctics out of your ass to prop up your opinion is a terrible argument, come up with something better.
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This is a very big spoiler for Volume 2, and one of the major plot holes of Volume 1.
Call it contrived, but I liked it.
Can't blame you for that, lol. The LN goes randomly really hard into philosophy and political science major rants, and knowledge is our MC's best trait, so it's rubbed in our faces time and time again. However, there are a fair handful of people that manage to outsmart the MC. Once we get past this meathead Amidonia invasion, we'll see it a little. It's still just a handful though, since muh big brain is his cheat skill.
This is a very big spoiler for Volume 2, and one of the major plot holes of Volume 1.
Dark magic represents unique abilities. Souma's ability allows him to control objects from remote distances. It may have been mentioned earlier, but the former queen, inheritor of the royal bloodline, was a user as well. Her ability allows her to send memories to the past and create alternate timelines. She used it the first time to decide her husband; every other king brought the country to ruin, in one way or another. The only one to "survive" was King Albert, who was mediocre, but liked by his subordinates, and taken advantage of blindly by political opponents.
In the alternate timeline, the kingdom summoned Souma, and he solved the money problem by cracking down on the corrupt. However, he was not made king, or given a notable position of power at all, to appease complaints from dissatisfied nobles, both corrupt and opportunistic. With little political power of his own, and no subordinates at all, the corrupt nobles, wanting revenge, took bribes from Amidonia, and weakened their own country from within. Souma did not solve the food crisis because they didn't allow him to pass any reforms, they caused a revolt. During that revolt, Amidonia attacked, and Souma and the princess reportedly burned to death in the royal castle.
The queen created a new timeline, then told her husband, who then told the beastman duke. The beastman duke decided, that since he was getting on with age, and since he loved the king and her daughter, he would pretend to raise a flag of rebellion, and bring the corrupt under his side and keep an eye on them. The king then gave Souma the strongest position possible, so he could pass reforms, and acquire personnel to replace the ones that walked out when he extracted money from the nobles. Souma's mistake in both timelines was that he did not execute the treacherous nobles that would lead to his downfall, so under the pretense of gutting a rebellion, all the nobles would die because the beastman duke was never playing to win from the start. An unfortunate undersight was that the duke's close friend, in charge of the air force, would join him out of camaraderie.
In the alternate timeline, the kingdom summoned Souma, and he solved the money problem by cracking down on the corrupt. However, he was not made king, or given a notable position of power at all, to appease complaints from dissatisfied nobles, both corrupt and opportunistic. With little political power of his own, and no subordinates at all, the corrupt nobles, wanting revenge, took bribes from Amidonia, and weakened their own country from within. Souma did not solve the food crisis because they didn't allow him to pass any reforms, they caused a revolt. During that revolt, Amidonia attacked, and Souma and the princess reportedly burned to death in the royal castle.
The queen created a new timeline, then told her husband, who then told the beastman duke. The beastman duke decided, that since he was getting on with age, and since he loved the king and her daughter, he would pretend to raise a flag of rebellion, and bring the corrupt under his side and keep an eye on them. The king then gave Souma the strongest position possible, so he could pass reforms, and acquire personnel to replace the ones that walked out when he extracted money from the nobles. Souma's mistake in both timelines was that he did not execute the treacherous nobles that would lead to his downfall, so under the pretense of gutting a rebellion, all the nobles would die because the beastman duke was never playing to win from the start. An unfortunate undersight was that the duke's close friend, in charge of the air force, would join him out of camaraderie.
Call it contrived, but I liked it.
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I have a question: if the region of Altomura was originally part of Amidonia, why would the Amidonians attack the peasants? Even this chapter points out that they want to use Altomura as their base of operations to conquer the territory, and it would make sense for the invaders not to antagonize people that might actually welcome their occupation.
So what happened? Are the Amidonians such warmongers that they will raid the region, regardless the circumstances? Is the kingdom such a good overlord that the locals don't want the Amidonians in charge, even if they were part of their country in the past? Or did the author just want to showcase that Souma cares about the villagers?
So what happened? Are the Amidonians such warmongers that they will raid the region, regardless the circumstances? Is the kingdom such a good overlord that the locals don't want the Amidonians in charge, even if they were part of their country in the past? Or did the author just want to showcase that Souma cares about the villagers?
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Edit: The land was taken two generations ago; the former queen's grandfather should have been the one to seize it, I think.
It has been a few generations since the land was taken, I believe. I'm unsure if any humans would be alive from when it happened, but it used to be an important resource area for Amidonia. As such, they've carried grudges for a very long time. Unfortunately, it's actually constant war effort spending that keeps peasants hungry and vengeful. The current Amidonia is run by a meathead driven by ingrained grudges built up over years. The country's national anthem calls out for their people to take revenge, so few could care about the well being of the other country with such blind hatred.
The surrender of Altomura was just an excuse to appease the invading army, sparing their citizens from harm, and blindly lead them into an ambush.
Edit: The land was taken two generations ago; the former queen's grandfather should have been the one to seize it, I think.
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oh I certainly agree, the anime adaptation did a shit job in the tone shifts, still comparing, the manga adaptations for this and Overlord, I can see how it could have been done. So maybe I was a bit harsh on this series for its blatant use of "everyone else is retarded except the MC", thats the original authors fault, not the manga artist, who probably just got the direction of skip this shit.
uhh do you forget about hakuya the new prime minister himself?? and to think you don't even know that souma is basically know better than normal people but still lost to some aspect that people with (over)specialized talent like aisha who has super strength, poncho with his food related stuff, kaede the fox girl that actually know souma strategy, again hakuya the fucking prime minister and other people who introduced later. the only power that souma has but other people don't is just modern related stuff that he knows
i think the retarded one is you tho since you don't even consider the manga editor want to change the flow of the story not the author himself since the ln version is already perfect and why did the manga artist need to change the story? the manga artist just draw shit dude
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oh I certainly agree, the anime adaptation did a shit job in the tone shifts, still comparing, the manga adaptations for this and Overlord, I can see how it could have been done. So maybe I was a bit harsh on this series for its blatant use of "everyone else is retarded except the MC", thats the original authors fault, not the manga artist, who probably just got the direction of skip this shit.
uhh do you forget about hakuya the new prime minister himself?? and to think you don't even know that souma is basically know better than normal people but still lost to some aspect that people with (over)specialized talent like aisha who has super strength, poncho with his food related stuff, kaede the fox girl that actually know souma strategy, again hakuya the fucking prime minister and other people who introduced later. the only power that souma has but other people don't is just modern related stuff that he knows
i think the retarded one is you tho since you don't even consider the manga editor want to change the flow of the story not the author himself since the ln version is already perfect and why did the manga artist need to change the story? the manga artist just draw shit dude
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The surrender of Altomura was just an excuse to appease the invading army, sparing their citizens from harm, and blindly lead them into an ambush.
Edit: The land was taken two generations ago; the former queen's grandfather should have been the one to seize it, I think. her grandfather or her father again?
Edit: The land was taken two generations ago; the former queen's grandfather should have been the one to seize it, I think. her grandfather or her father again?
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Even though the lands were previously from Amidonia, that doesn't exempt them from being raided by the Amidonian Army. Like any medieval army, the Amidonians need to supply themselves, since they don't have the kind of supply chains that modern, mechanized armies are equipped with. Ever saw the series Gate: Thus the JSDF Fought There? Same idea. The Empire performed Scorched Earth tactics on their own lands, thinking to deny the JSDF the resources and slow their advance. Too bad for them that the JSDF had little to no need for those resources, and the Empire just shot themselves in the foot.
Julius even questioned why they were able to get resources and whatnot, despite the fact that Elfrieden should be doing everything they could to slow their advance.
Even though the lands were previously from Amidonia, that doesn't exempt them from being raided by the Amidonian Army. Like any medieval army, the Amidonians need to supply themselves, since they don't have the kind of supply chains that modern, mechanized armies are equipped with. Ever saw the series Gate: Thus the JSDF Fought There? Same idea. The Empire performed Scorched Earth tactics on their own lands, thinking to deny the JSDF the resources and slow their advance. Too bad for them that the JSDF had little to no need for those resources, and the Empire just shot themselves in the foot.
Julius even questioned why they were able to get resources and whatnot, despite the fact that Elfrieden should be doing everything they could to slow their advance.
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