GraPara! - Ch. 130 - Please Look Only at Me

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I'd say yes, she did give her consent, but the author made it seem so vague or simple that I think it's normal to wonder whether it was consensual or abuse.
Lets settle for yes it was abuse on grounds that fuckboi is initiating sex onto an emotionally vulnerable Sakura and her initial responses are shown to be resisting for a brief few moments. Midway through though, Sakura's signature move "sexy time mental blank out mode" kicks in and this is where you can say consent is loosely implied, further supported by them moving to the bedroom (off screened, maybe carried instead of willingly following). At no point is consent openly given by Sakura who probably right now prefers to dissociate from her self-deluded reality of Shinobu cheating on her and abandoning her. It's there but the legality and ethics of it are a bit more grey area things.
 
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Lets settle for yes it was abuse on grounds that fuckboi is initiating sex onto an emotionally vulnerable Sakura and her initial responses are shown to be resisting for a brief few moments. Midway through though, Sakura's signature move "sexy time mental blank out mode" kicks in and this is where you can say consent is loosely implied, further supported by them moving to the bedroom (off screened, maybe carried instead of willingly following). No where is consent expressly given by sound of mind Sakura, we can say its there but the legality and ethics of it are a bit more grey area things.
Dude does it take much to get sakura to betray shinobu no no it doesn't take much it's not even the first time yes they may not have been together but she knew he had feeling for her and I don't like the idea of shinobu just forgiving her she didn't make a mistake she had out she didn't have to be at his house he asked her if she wanted to go home she didn't she wanted to stay she wanted sex she is a shallow written character.

Bluntly sakura doesn't really deserve shinobu as she is now.
 
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Dude does it take much to get sakura to betray shinobu no no it doesn't take much it's not even the first time yes they may not have been together but she knew he had feeling for her and I don't like the idea of shinobu just forgiving her she didn't make a mistake she had out she didn't have to be at his house he asked her if she wanted to go home she didn't she wanted to stay she wanted sex she is a shallow written character.

Bluntly sakura doesn't really deserve shinobu as she is now.
She did not tell fuckboi to come pick her up, she sent him a text saying he was right about the cheating, and that's when he goes out to find her. It actually took fuckboi and blonde putting in quite a bit of work and needing Shinobu's missteps to line up everything and bring Sakura to this point. Even with all that Sakura did not go to fuckboi's apartment really knowing she was going to have sex. Unfortunately Sakura needs to have flaws like being mentally frail/vulernable, to enrich the premise of the manga and the dynamic between Shinobu and Sakura work that much better, and its just this time it worked in fuckboi schemer's advantage instead. On that day for Sakura her world she had known until then just collapsed around her; Shinobu was a cheater, was going to stop being her manager, she was about to be alone again and the next closest person she could confide in was fuckboi by manipulative design. Even if Sakura had asked to be taken home during the taxi, fuckboi would have likely coerced into believing she shouldn't be alone at least for tonight, her only window to really escape without any confrontation was to leave when fuckboi left for the store. On a separate I verily much agree that Sakura as she is now doesn't deserve Shinobu so she better wake up quick from this false reality she's in.
 
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Thinking one of the better twists we can get, although it might take some time to really show, fuckboi and blonde's agnecy being a black company. Fuckboi and blonde MO is to pick one actress at every new job they take to get close to and manipulate into signing with their agency where they soon get exploited and overworked. In cases where fuckboi is attracted to the target actress blonde helps fuckboi hook up with them asap.
 
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She did not tell fuckboi to come pick her up, she sent him a text saying he was right about the cheating, and that's when he goes out to find her. It actually took fuckboi and blonde putting in quite a bit of work and needing Shinobu's missteps to line up everything and bring Sakura to this point. Even with all that Sakura did not go to fuckboi's apartment really knowing she was going to have sex. Unfortunately Sakura needs to have flaws like being mentally frail/vulernable, to enrich the premise of the manga and the dynamic between Shinobu and Sakura work that much better, and its just this time it worked in fuckboi schemer's advantage instead. On that day for Sakura her world she had known until then just collapsed around her; Shinobu was a cheater, was going to stop being her manager, she was about to be alone again and the next closest person she could confide in was fuckboi by manipulative design. Even if Sakura had asked to be taken home during the taxi, fuckboi would have likely coerced into believing she shouldn't be alone at least for tonight, her only window to really escape without any confrontation was to leave when fuckboi left for the store. On a separate I verily much agree that Sakura as she is now doesn't deserve Shinobu so she better wake up quick from this false reality she's in.
Well we as the readers know that she was confiding her problems and insecurities with fuck boi instead of her boyfriend whom she professed to love tell I you are in love with someone do you run away if you believe you had caught them cheating or do you confront them? Sakura is self-centered and shallow she does not nor seem ever did love shinobu it's all about her sexual needs with her there is no more to that that is how her character has been written at best you get the they may have may not have made up at the end or they go on with different people. I'm sure once and if she learns the truth it's not like she can just go back to the way things were she signed a contract with a new agency she moved in with fuckboi and broke up with shinobu over text why would you want her to get back together with a guy she has so mistreated?
 
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She needs to hear the truth from Shinobu himself and no one else. What will piss me off to the absolute limit and make me consider dropping the manga is if mah boi Shinobu starts popping chubbies everywhere cause he gets excited thinking about fuckboiXSakura after 130. There needs to be limits to the cuck, even if you've sorta already been cucked ya know.
That kind of personality hasn't been seen in Shinobu. It's true that in one episode she masturbates thinking about Sakura, but on the other hand, when she's having sex with Sakura and thinks about Fumi, she doesn't feel more lustful; instead, she stops having sex. I suppose if she were aroused by those things, she would have continued having sex with Sakura thinking she was Fumi.
 
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Well we as the readers know that she was confiding her problems and insecurities with fuck boi instead of her boyfriend whom she professed to love tell I you are in love with someone do you run away if you believe you had caught them cheating or do you confront them? Sakura is self-centered and shallow she does not nor seem ever did love shinobu it's all about her sexual needs with her there is no more to that that is how her character has been written at best you get the they may have may not have made up at the end or they go on with different people. I'm sure once and if she learns the truth it's not like she can just go back to the way things were she signed a contract with a new agency she moved in with fuckboi and broke up with shinobu over text why would you want her to get back together with a guy she has so mistreated?
We also know Sakura lacks confidence, is absent-minded, and prefers to avoid confrontations. She was also being fed misleading info from fuckboi and blonde since this arc started. In an irl scenario 100% anyone should confront their SO if they catch them in an act like that, but this a manga and a little suspension of disbelief goes a long way, especially if you consider Sakura's character traits to this point. If they reconcile and Sakura wants to leave the agency there will ways to void the contract that the author could go with, that'll be up to them to really figure out.
 
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That kind of personality hasn't been seen in Shinobu. It's true that in one episode she masturbates thinking about Sakura, but on the other hand, when she's having sex with Sakura and thinks about Fumi, she doesn't feel more lustful; instead, she stops having sex. I suppose if she were aroused by those things, she would have continued having sex with Sakura thinking she was Fumi.
Precisely, I was referring to the MC of Karamizakari (same author), and there have been small signs of Shinobu imagining Sakura with other men in his fantasies. This is also a good point about Shinobu being confused when Fumi and Sakura keep getting jumbled together in his mind, and really distracted him from what he should've been paying more attention to, Sakura. I'll be praying to the man up top that Shinobu doesn't turn into Karamizakari MC out of nowhere, because then the ending will be truly hard to stomach for a cast of characters that are so much more enjoyable to read about.
 
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This made me laugh but who knows there could be some hope and I know as I'm writing this that that is bullshit but you never know until you know.
well, the only piece of manga that i managed to read in it's entirety from this mangaka is not that badly written, though the mc tanked a literal, in-universe, gang rape with a slight depression and a happy ever after.
 
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well, the only piece of manga that i managed to read in it's entirety from this mangaka is not that badly written, though the mc tanked a literal, in-universe, gang rape with a slight depression and a happy ever after.
In karami zakari or how this shit is spelled? But this is the doujin no?
 
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well, the only piece of manga that i managed to read in it's entirety from this mangaka is not that badly written, though the mc tanked a literal, in-universe, gang rape with a slight depression and a happy ever after.
This mangaka has some wildly disturbed ideas when they put out some of these works, scars some people. Akaneya (Karamizakari) deserved so much better than what she got.
 
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I just don't see it with sakura I can not see how she is redeemed and I don't think the author will redeem her or wants to so in the end one of us is right one is wrong and right now Sakura doesn't deserve shinobu. Then there is the agency we have really been shown anything about it no rumors or anything of the sort showing them to be shady fuckboi has been written as a golden boy better than shinobu at everything and right now sakura is living in his home so there isn't anything shinobu can do and with the way things have been written it doesn't seem the author plans to change anything about that fumi for the win.
 
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Further digging into the texts seems difficult for Shinobu or anyone on his team to do currently. A GPS tracker being on one of Sakura's possessions seems a bit too extreme also, but won't say no if it's so.
The tracker would be an opportunity to save Sakura and Shinobu's relationship, and I don't know if the author is pretending that. Personally, I think the ending is about them separating, but it's also possible that even if they end up separated, they do so as friends after Shinobu saves her, but not to become a couple again.
 
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In karami zakari or how this shit is spelled? But this is the doujin no?
Originally yes, now it has a few spinoffs/sequels and an official manga (Engtanglement: My lies your truth) covering the same storyline while introducing some new characters but the endings are nearly identical. Manga just focuses less on the sex and more character interpersonal drama and the various psychological concepts that are relevant to an awkward school romance in a group of friends.
 
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The tracker would be an opportunity to save Sakura and Shinobu's relationship, and I don't know if the author is pretending that. Personally, I think the ending is about them separating, but it's also possible that even if they end up separated, they do so as friends after Shinobu saves her, but not to become a couple again.
While its a pretty good shot at a quick resolution by instantly exposing fuckboi's darker side, for there to actually have been a tracker, I'd be pretty surprised if this is ever the case. Imagining this ending is sad, but doesn't sound unreasonable at all, other than it'll shift the premise of the manga to something different if the story wants to continue and it might risk losing readers in that process.
 
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I just don't see it with sakura I can not see how she is redeemed and I don't think the author will redeem her or wants to so in the end one of us is right one is wrong and right now Sakura doesn't deserve shinobu. Then there is the agency we have really been shown anything about it no rumors or anything of the sort showing them to be shady fuckboi has been written as a golden boy better than shinobu at everything and right now sakura is living in his home so there isn't anything shinobu can do and with the way things have been written it doesn't seem the author plans to change anything about that fumi for the win.
All good on that front, we know where we stand and the things we agree on, like Sakura as she right now not being worthy of Shinobu, but it doesn't mean Shinobu gives up on her. This is why cliffhangers hurt, hoping there is a worthwhile pay off. The black company thing doesn't need any hints or buildup to be true, we'll see the signs soon enough if it's real.
 

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