Hagure Seirei Ino Shinsatsu Kiroku ~ Seijo Kishi-dan to Iyashi no Kamiwaza ~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

[Hollow7F]

pg 27 ... wait so did the chick already pulled a flop too? wasnt she 3 years younger? and how the fuck is she 12?

 

[Kaarme]

@TheStuffedUnicorn It didn't seem to be relative to the person trying to contract a spirit. Like @Khuu59 said, it's anyone with a spirit not belonging to the four major elements. We don't know what elements there are, exactly, in addition to the four, but let's say there's a death element. Such a person could be even more deadly as a battlemage than a person with a spirit of the four major elements. I also doubt the country is in so super dire straits that only combat power matters, seeing how clean the academy is and how relaxed the students look in their nice uniforms. It doesn't look like youths are sent to battle an endless demon horde as soon as they grasp the bare minimum of combat skills. Under such circumstances the setting would be a bit more understandable, assuming the four elements are the quickest way to decent combat effectiveness.

Nah, the author simply wants the world to systematically underestimate the MC in the beginning. Too bad the author didn't really think things through.

 

[Gauvain]

@metaldog564
"This author seems to not understand the scientific process or even pragmatism."
we are in 2019, in your opinion it was how at the time suppose of this story?

we must put things in their place, our modern values ​​or that of certain cultures does not necessarily apply

 

[TheStuffedUnicorn]

@kaarme bro what are you talking about. Death element? A fantasy manga country's economic status and geopolitical situation based on how clean(?) a school is and how nice(??) their uniforms are? I guess you might just be trolling, since you are talking actual nonsense.

 

[Gauvain]

@Kaarme
"only 1 in every 500 people or so were born with the aptitude to become magicians and thus their existence is highly valuable"
imagine they're not being treated well.
magician would simply go to a neighboring country.
and I also talk about "flop", because if they are treated differently,
it will also make the magicians want to go to another country, not to take a risk.

 

[Gauvain]

@Hollow7F

or so it's been 3 years since he did his ceremonies

but it's true that it's big tits for a 12 year old girl
but it seems to be the author's thing
and a girl who has big boobs adult has probably had bigger breasts earlier than other girls

 

[isoujiX]

@Khuu59 thank you bro. but is it awful he did a flop? i mean, its cool if you flop.

 

[Invader_Retro]

@Kaarme kinda agree with the flop thing being weird and a doctor not being useful? what?
Are they that OP or lucky that they don't get hurt or sick?
Or is it that all the previous doctors were crazy and had weak skills?
Either way its a cliche start but is still fine I guess 🤔

 

[Hollow7F]

@Gauvain time skip would be an answer but there's no indication of it, at this point i think its probably just a translation error

 

[Berz3rk]

@Kaarme
Well , they call a "flop" anything they don't find useful , this reminds me of an isekai manga that had similar notions where everything other than the four elements is considered inferior .
They call everything else a flop probably because the world is in middle of war's, and well anything that can't be used offensively to get the upper hand on the battle's is useless to them , or so they believe at the very least.
Now you said that why would they call it a "flop" if he can pretty much cure anything , well it ever occur to you that they don't know all the spirit's that exist and can be contracted with ? ( As in the official's of the academy , kingdom/emipre )
Also don't forget that the description say's he received a royal order , which would suggest that the official's have taken an interest and find it in fact a really useful ability.
Also keep in mind that if it was a story after war/s ended then the one's that would be considered higher and paid better et-cetera would be one's with , i don't know life-style magic or something along those line's , basically ppl that could contribute for a better life among the masses.

Welp , that sums up my opinion i believe.

 

[Tiihokatti]

Another StrongestWeakestIsekai. But that doesn't stop me from following it...

 

[Berz3rk]

@Kaarme
Also keep in mind he said spirit doctors is a neglected path ,that would probably be because being a battle mage would be a faster road to fame and wealth (if one does well that is )

P.s if i've left anything out hmu

 

[Kaarme]

@TheStuffedUnicorn Let me try to reiterate: The society looked prosperous, not one burdened by an endless war. Thus it makes no sense only directly battle related skills would be highly valued and everything else would be called a flop. If there's peace, or even if there's minor conflict going on that doesn't bother the normal workings of the society too much, other skills would make a person successful in the world. Of course anyone could dream of anything and be personally disappointed, a family with traditions might be disappointed as well, but that academy, or the whole country, seemed to universally call people who don't acquiring a spirit from the four major elements as a flop.

If you think that since it's fantasy, anything goes and nothing needs to make sense, more power to you, I guess.

 

[metaldog564]

@Gauvain first of , pragmatism is ageless, doing things in a practical manner is one of the things that helped a certain hairless monkey to become what it is today. This is one of the foundations of our 12000 years long civilization. Second of, the scientific method began to take the shape that we know in the 1600s, but its early drafts had been around since people started doing stuff in order to see what will happen after. This is not about modern values, is about something that is intrinsic to society itself.

Also, 1 in each 500 with aptitude means that, around 0.2% of the population can be a magician. After this, we have to consider those that never will be aware that they have aptitude as a magician, those that are aware but can't receive the training, and those that received the training but were unable to form a contract with a spirit, which is seemingly what defines what a magician is.

So, belittling any trained individual, with the necessary dispositions, that already had done a contract with a spirit, just because said spirit is not useful in immediate warfare, is a tremendous lack of understanding of whole process as a whole and the workings of a functioning society. I can expect this from a commoner, but it is inexcusable for anyone in administration or that is part of said process.

 

[sacrificial]

reminds me of Soul Land

 

[Rhaptopia]

Do you mean because of the sea grass he had that was actually really powerful or because he had the sky hammer?

 

[Gauvain]

@metaldog564
you speak in a society of science, very often the religion has taken over during the history, which has sometimes pushed back the knowledge.
Moreover, it is a world where magic exists and because of its existence science as we know it and these processes are likely to be slowed down and religion will take over even more, among other things because magic will be a useful science, but also difficult to improved and understand without knowledge in chemistry or other natural concept.

I do not know how you see the history of our world, but if you look at it you will see that not everyone is moving at the same speed and that there are many countries and peoples that no longer exist.
each country has these priorities and above all the mentality of the leader can block the advance of a country, if you are at war permanently and you have no good contact with your neighbors, information and research will be at the speed of what your country researching.
so if you do not finance it, there will be no progress in research
if for example you are like China, american indians or Japan and you block all contact with the outside country and you spend your time doing wars to unify your country
it is likely that you will stagnate compared to the rest of the world

in the second world war there were countries that used musket while others were coming to the nuclear bomb.

 

[Jeikob]

I somehow doubt his childhood friend or whatever there, also got a flop. Also, color me interested. Its interesting to see an MC with some kind of plant based power for once, and going by the synopsis I get the feeling this one could be fun.

Could also be horrendous trash, however. Time'll tell.

 

[Akabane]

For some reason I don't think he got a simple plant spirit.

 

[CraftyxCrafty]

@Hollow7F

They do the ceremony at 15, she was 12 when she assisted with his ceremony. Pg 27 is at least 3 years later, so she's 15+.