Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi - Ch. 30

[jojoka]

Part of that is because the kids refuse to let a step parent "replace" their real parent. In Minori's case, she never had a father figure to attach to until the mc arrived, so that's not much of an issue. She still considers him a bit of an outsider like when she told him to bud out when she got into a fight with her mom, but that barrier is slowly dropping.

Regardless blood ties are important and pretending they're not is dumb which is what I was pointing out. Not like they're the only important or even most important thing but they are very key to family units and not having them present objectively creates conflict within a family unit.

 

[finalm]

Regardless blood ties are important and pretending they're not is dumb which is what I was pointing out. Not like they're the only important or even most important thing but they are very key to family units and not having them present objectively creates conflict within a family unit.

According to what research? Mind you, even asking that is already giving the benefit of the doubt, considering how "objective" talk about "family units" tends to be.

 

[Lunkli]

Regardless blood ties are important and pretending they're not is dumb which is what I was pointing out. Not like they're the only important or even most important thing but they are very key to family units and not having them present objectively creates conflict within a family unit.

This is a very shallow understanding of family and biology surrounding it. There're years of evidence suggesting that "blood ties" aren't actually a thing that people can detect, and that our understanding of our own familial relations comes more from the people we spend time with while young. (Hence stories about stuff like siblings seperated at birth dating without realizing that they were related.)

And with stuff like adoptive parents or remarriages, conflict there comes from the fact that the children are experiencing a form of paradigm shift: They feel lied to because they didn't know that they were adopted and have bought into the same propaganda that you have that says that blood relations are important, or they feel that their parent's remarriage is erasing the parent they have lost. (Among other things, of course, but these are the most common.)

These don't apply to Minoru, as she never knew her actual father and has known since the start that Takaharu was not related to her. So there're no reasons for the lack of blood relations to get in the way of her relationship with Takaharu. If her actual father were to sudden come back to life, he'd be starting at the same point Takaharu did.

 

[buffalosauce]

thats your daughter bro!!!! im crying it was such a cute chapter i had to reread it a few times. Kyou has been in single parent mode so long i understand why its taking her so much time to realize that they've already formed a family together. her mindset has been daughter-first alll these years its not surprising its taking so long to really settle into the reality of what is happening here. i think that she needs to see him as a dad to minori before she can accept that her feelings for him have returned, beyond the random make out sessions every once in a while.

 

[Tinker_OwO]

He's not a step-dad, he's the dad that stepped up (cus the other one is dead LMAOOOOOOOOO)

 

[ReasonableSuspicion]

i live for wholsome family shit like this INJECT IT STRAIGHT INTO MY VEINS UGH

 

[Rutellum]

Hahaha, she screaming "adopt me already" Soo loud lol

 

[Trevoga]

Regardless blood ties are important and pretending they're not is dumb which is what I was pointing out. Not like they're the only important or even most important thing but they are very key to family units and not having them present objectively creates conflict within a family unit.

you are a moron and you should be embarrassed to speak

 

[nyoron77]

=w=||| ... I know it's strange for daughter fast warming up with MC

But that only strange if her late dad alive when she alrdy born and she remember her first ...

Minori never have anyone for her father figure until she meets MC

 

[Rozzak]

The author would fuck up the entire story if Minori was a romantic interest for Takaharu. Nothing about any aspect of the plot to this point suggests that there's anything but parental/child bonding between the two of them, to the point that Natsuki was introduced to give Minori a counterpart as someone her age that could further ground her to this new life.

the people screaming "oyakodon" and "Usagi Drop" are just porn-brained readers who can't see a relationship between two people and imagine it is anything but sexual.

Idk, kissing in manga is pretty reserved as it is. Japanese culture being whatever. Obviously the author knows how it could and would be perceived by readers. And they obviously know everyone hates the ex (jp twitter is like 5x worse than anything here you'd read with this sort of manga). Usagi Drop was the same kind of manga to begin with... until it wasn't. That's why it's infamous. It came out of nowhere. I've got like a 25% chance suspicion the author is going to crash out with that same kind of development.

 

[Attqqqq]

Idk, kissing in manga is pretty reserved as it is. Japanese culture being whatever. Obviously the author knows how it could and would be perceived by readers. And they obviously know everyone hates the ex (jp twitter is like 5x worse than anything here you'd read with this sort of manga). Usagi Drop was the same kind of manga to begin with... until it wasn't. That's why it's infamous. It came out of nowhere. I've got like a 25% chance suspicion the author is going to crash out with that same kind of development.

Please dear god let us get an usagi drop ending

I hate usagi drop and all it stands for, but I hate this leech whore mother more- she deserves it

 

[Kagimizu]

Can someone explain to me how the mother is a leech when she is not only employed (this chapter happened because her job called her in unexpectedly), but was also actively looking for new apartments for her and her daughter until the MC made it clear he was fine with them staying as long as they'd like?

 

[bluepanda800]

Please no Usagi Drop ending!

Like I want to be excited that Minori feels that Takeharu is dependable and is growing affectionate with him. This could be a really sweet family vibes moment- but I have been scarred....

Praying this is just her seeing him as a father figure

 

[GEEGEEE171]

Usagi Drop fans in the comments fucking hell

I got some ptsd flashback for a sec when I read the chapter but God I hope it won't turn to trash like that.

 

[Juicebun]

They're raising a good girl

 

[TheBigMonk]

Can someone explain to me how the mother is a leech when she is not only employed (this chapter happened because her job called her in unexpectedly), but was also actively looking for new apartments for her and her daughter until the MC made it clear he was fine with them staying as long as they'd like?

Don't worry too much about those sorts of comments. They're straight up misogynists who just hate woman. They're judging her for being a single mother with a daughter with nowhere to go, supposedly 'taking advantage' of the MCs previous relationship with her in him letting her live with him.
They just hate read this story at this point.

 

[nxneil13]

Thx for the TL

What a sweet FATHER AND DAUGHTER!!!!!! AND ONLY THAT! GET YOUR OKARI PAPA BRAINS OUT OF HERE!

 

[jojoka]

So 100% of kids reject a step-parent in all cases? You heard about it happening before, so it has to happen every time as a result?

No I never said that, in fact I even said it didn't always happen. But it is fact in recorded data that step parents and children either remain emotionally distant or take a very long time to develop a proper parent-child relationship, commonly. Rejecting blood ties as being important is wrong, they are.

The main factors that help children develop this bond is the step parents actions and the child's age. The younger they are the easier it is for them to accept their new step parent, the older they are the harder it gets.

It gets even harder with age so a girl like Minori at her age in real life would likely struggle with ever developing a paternal relationship with a step father especially as she's in early or approaching puberty when hormonal changes can effect critical or emotional thinking.

It's a cartoon so obviously it doesn't matter and again to reiterate this is the common situation but not every situation. Your personal experiences may be different but generalisation disagrees with you, just like how seeing a very tall woman doesn't disprove the fact that its common that men are taller than women.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Idk, kissing in manga is pretty reserved as it is. Japanese culture being whatever. Obviously the author knows how it could and would be perceived by readers. And they obviously know everyone hates the ex (jp twitter is like 5x worse than anything here you'd read with this sort of manga). Usagi Drop was the same kind of manga to begin with... until it wasn't. That's why it's infamous. It came out of nowhere. I've got like a 25% chance suspicion the author is going to crash out with that same kind of development.

People who hate on Kyou are simply moronic. You will not change my mind on that, and anyone who thinks she's a bad person is reading the wrong series.
And that goes for anyone who thinks this is going the Usagi Drop route.

If your argument is "kissing means romance in manga", that's simply a reductive statement that pigeon holes any author trying to write something different going forward, and is actively harmful to branching out in storywriting and characterization. Saying "but that's because Japan values" is reductive and making blanket assumptions like every writer is enslaved to some monolithic societal blueprint.

You can think what you want, but the view that Minori is going to get with Takaharu romantically is baseless when looking at the series, and if you're seriously of the mind that it's going to happen, then I can only say I can't trust your ability to judge the work on its own merit.

 

[UdenEmpati]

No I never said that, in fact I even said it didn't always happen. But it is fact in recorded data that step parents and children either remain emotionally distant or take a very long time to develop a proper parent-child relationship, commonly. Rejecting blood ties as being important is wrong, they are.

The main factors that help children develop this bond is the step parents actions and the child's age. The younger they are the easier it is for them to accept their new step parent, the older they are the harder it gets.

It gets even harder with age so a girl like Minori at her age in real life would likely struggle with ever developing a paternal relationship with a step father especially as she's in early or approaching puberty when hormonal changes can effect critical or emotional thinking.

It's a cartoon so obviously it doesn't matter and again to reiterate this is the common situation but not every situation. Your personal experiences may be different but generalisation disagrees with you, just like how seeing a very tall woman doesn't disprove the fact that its common that men are taller than women.

Except we have the events of the story playing out right in front of us, and the characters themselves as evidence of the dynamic between them and the shifts therein.

You can cite real statistics all you want, but even saying "generalisations say X" means that not every case is the same, and thus whatever your stated data may claim, it's not the case in every instance, and clearly it doesn't play out here for this situation.

Making the point moot from the get-go, as it pertains to the story being discussed. You're bringing in random factoids and statistics to make a claim that doesn't factor into the presented narrative, which is simply adding noise to the signal of discourse.