Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi

[Ahmadpo]

So the husband death has nothing to do with It, the reason why she looked for help now is becuase of her daughter, her situation isn't about only her anymore, and she didn't went back to MC thinking he was still in love with her, she went back thinking he would help her as an friend or at least an acquaintance, also she didn't ghost him, she broke up with him because of family problems that required her to drop out of college and move, the plan wasn't to use this as an excuse to get back together with MC, was to stay till she could find a place for her and her daughter to live, MC is the one who was fine with her taking time finding a new place, and not paying for her stay.

did you even read this manga? She legit stopped contacting him and even made sure he couldnt reach her. do you even know what ghosting is? f*ckin stupid. she ghosted him after a problem she couldve shared with her boyfriend. instead she breaks up with him and finds a random stranger, whom she considered a partner sharing similar traumas. so thats fine huh? insteading sharing your trauma with your loved and getting help from them, its fine to rely on a stranger and forget about your loved one and start a family with the stranger. f*ckin sure. also the way mc says its fine for her to stay, is where the part i mentioned he's also stupid. thats how the author wrote him as. making it look like its normal for a persons bf/gf to leave them cuz of family problems, have a kid with a stranger, and then come back when you have no choice left in life. then why'd she come back to him? why not find another stranger who shares the same trauma of a dead husband/wife and settle with them just like how she left mc the first time? why go back to him? f*ckin stupid. making this situation like its normal. it is not. it never will be. and making it normal is braindead.

 

[Dark1400]

did you even read this manga? She legit stopped contacting him and even made sure he couldnt reach her. do you even know what ghosting is? f*ckin stupid. she ghosted him after a problem she couldve shared with her boyfriend. instead she breaks up with him and finds a random stranger, whom she considered a partner sharing similar traumas. so thats fine huh? insteading sharing your trauma with your loved and getting help from them, its fine to rely on a stranger and forget about your loved one and start a family with the stranger. f*ckin sure. also the way mc says its fine for her to stay, is where the part i mentioned he's also stupid. thats how the author wrote him as. making it look like its normal for a persons bf/gf to leave them cuz of family problems, have a kid with a stranger, and then come back when you have no choice left in life. then why'd she come back to him? why not find another stranger who shares the same trauma of a dead husband/wife and settle with them just like how she left mc the first time? why go back to him? f*ckin stupid. making this situation like its normal. it is not. it never will be. and making it normal is braindead.

She stopped contact with him because they broke up and she had to move to another place, also, they were just some dumb college students, and MC already had his own thing to deal with in his art career, so is not like he could have solved it, or prevented her from dropping college and moving, and again, she didn't come to get back with MC, she needed help, she was ready to go after finding a place to live with her daughter and would leave MC home, but MC decided to let her live with him, and she agreed because it would be easier for the daughter, her priority is the daughter, that is why she decided to be a burden to MC now even though she didn't want to be one in the past.

 

[Dark1400]

Honestly i keep coming back to this trash heap of a manga but the defenders are so full of shit. She didn't even bother communicating and broke up with him cause she "loved" him or that's the narrative the story is tryna play at. She leaves with no closure and selfishly makes herself a marter then come back outta nowhere to her Ex's place?after she knows they had a bad break up doesn't even talk to him during the time they aren't even close anymore at all.what the fuck do you mean help her as a friend are you obtuse or something? That isn't how that shit works,and even then now she knows he likes her.And is still staying with him taking advantage if the lingering feelings and not even talking to him like an adult.waiting for him to confess or something even tho she knows he loves her how is that not manipltive? this woman is not a child. He is already helping her even with alternative feelings even if he doesn't believe it. because I'll ask you this,would he be okay if she just went to live with another man or started seeing another man while living with him? In such a situation there is now a very messy foundation and incentives in this relationship. this isn't some wholesome story and I'm tired of people trying to make it such. People have evey right to criticize her behavior because the story itself trys it's best to make everything not her fault and not give her agency. It trys to day that it's the boyfriend's fault for not chasing after her when she broke up but why should he do that? Why is she just willing to break of a long term relationship without atleast explaining or asking him. It's pretty obvious the gus flaws so i wont state them but this type of bullshit is beyond annoying at this point. Atleast if the story tried redemption and actually acknowledging her behavior is garbage id understand instead of this pity part bullshit where they don't even talk about it like adults to each other. She hurt this loser of a man real bad with her selfish actions and the kid is important but this is also becoming a mess and it can hurt the bastard again. She's taking advantage of his emtions as well relationships like this just aren't healthy.

"Would help her as a friend or at least as an acquaintance" she didn't talk to MC for 17 years, there is no way for her to know MC still had feelings for her, the best she could expect is MC to help her as a friend, or at least as a fellow human being, and the plan was to stay till she find a place and leave, when she found a place to live with her daughter she was ready to leave and let MC live in peace, MC was the one that suggested her to stay since it would be easier for the daughter

I have no problems with people criticizing the story or the manga, my problem is with people making stuff up, like saying she only went for MC because the husband died, or that she ghosted MC.

 

[kudamak]

"Would help her as a friend or at least as an acquaintance" she didn't talk to MC for 17 years, there is no way for her to know MC still had feelings for her, the best she could expect is MC to help her as a friend, or at least as a fellow human being, and the plan was to stay till she find a place and leave, when she found a place to live with her daughter she was ready to leave and let MC live in peace, MC was the one that suggested her to stay since it would be easier for the daughter

I have no problems with people criticizing the story or the manga, my problem is with people making stuff up, like saying she only went for MC because the husband died, or that she ghosted MC.

But that break up was horrendous she left without closure it isn't even about feelings but bad blood in general it's absolutely naive and selfish. Her behavior has been wishy washy in so many different ways she breaks up for no reason or barley elaborates and comes back with a kid? Think of that sequence of events for a sec from his prespective even if we know the bullshit sob story.and she doesn't tell him anything about why? Or what happened, the guy is too much of a coward to ask as well. and what about in the recent chapters where she is now fully aware he likes her. Her focusing on her kid is not an excuse cause she isn't building those boundaries properly like an adult her reasoning is just that she knows he wont confess.if she doesn't want that relationship then tell him. Wtf is that shitty behavior? She is immensely unlikable and she did ghost the MC she did so many horrible things and the story is not holding her accountable for how she hurt him. And is currently doing the exact same behavior that hurt before but not acting like an adult and shutting that shit down properly if she doesn't want it. How is this in any way wholesome? It's just trying to stuff this,down your throat and force you to accept it. I cannot stress enough how much i genuinely despise this woman and it isn't in the incel type of way but her behavior man. It goes oh she's sucha cute woman without sny autonomy and a tragic past i could never tell anyone or whatever that is beyond pretentious and annoying. The daughter is the only one im fully okay with. It's hard to put into words how absolutely revolting and pathetic i find this main character he's beyond a loser and has no self worth and it trys portraying his lack of self worth as devotion and true love.Funniest part is i am the type to love stories of the ex and main character getting back together but this is just beyond pathetic to look at.

 

[Dark1400]

But that break up was horrendous she left without closure it isn't even about feelings but bad blood in general it's absolutely naive and selfish. Her behavior has been wishy washy in so many different ways she breaks up for no reason or barley elaborates and comes back with a kid? Think of that sequence of events for a sec.and she doesn't tell him anything about why? Or what happened, the guy is too much of a coward to ask as well. and what about in the recent chapters where she is now fully aware he likes her. Her focusing on her kid is not an excuse cause she isn't building those boundaries properly like an adult her reasoning is just that she knows he wont confess.if she doesn't want that relationship then tell him. Wtf is that shitty behavior? She is immensely unlikable and she did ghost the MC she did so many horrible things and the story is not holding her accountable for how she hurt him. And is currently doing the exact same behavior that hurt before but not acting like an adult and shutting that shit down properly if she doesn't want it. How is this in any way wholesome? It's just trying to stuff this,down your throat and force you to accept it. I cannot stress enough how much i genuinely despise this woman and it isn't in the incel type of way but her behavior man. It goes oh she's sucha cute woman without sny autonomy and a tragic past i could never tell anyone or whatever that is beyond pretentious and annoying. The daughter is the only one im fully okay with.

when someone say ghosthing to me i think about vanishing from a relationship without any warning or clue, so even thought the her break up was bad and she didn't elaborate anything beyond "I need to drop college for family reasons, is best we broke up", i don't think it would fit in Ghosting. About MC feelings she only got a hold of it recently, and yeah, her response of "he would't say that" is bad, so I'm waiting an elaboration on that, but she probably is operating on the same logic of the past, so i hope someone put some sense into her.

about the hate, yeah, she is a dumb mess, and I don't think you are wrong on how you feel about the situation in general, in real life being that focused in someone you dated for some months almost 2 decades ago is not healthy, her habit to self martyr doing what she think is the best for everyone without asking anyone is also a serious problem, she don't act like an adult, and the living arrangement is problematic, but if I start to apply this standard to every manga I read I probably will start hating a bunch of characters and tropes, so I understand the logic and views, and even agree with it, but i wouldn't take it myself, or at least not when reading a manga that don't take itself that seriously

 

[kudamak]

when someone say ghosthing to me i think about vanishing from a relationship without any warning or clue, so even thought the her break up was bad and she didn't elaborate anything beyond "I need to drop college for family reasons, is best we broke up", i don't think it would fit in Ghosting. About MC feelings she only got a hold of it recently, and yeah, her response of "he would't say that" is bad, so I'm waiting an elaboration on that, but she probably is operating on the same logic of the past, so i hope someone put some sense into her.

about the hate, yeah, she is a dumb mess, and I don't think you are wrong on how you feel about the situation in general, in real life being that focused in someone you dated for some months almost 2 decades ago is not healthy, her habit to self martyr doing what she think is the best for everyone without asking anyone is also a serious problem, she don't act like an adult, and the living arrangement is problematic, but if I start to apply this standard to every manga I read I probably will start hating a bunch of characters and tropes, so I understand the logic and views, and even agree with it, but i wouldn't take it myself, or at least not when reading a manga that don't take itself that seriously

Yk what i absolutely understand then maybe im looking into this too much. but i mostly got irritated at the way people in the comments were guilt tripping others and calling them heartless for not thinking this is wholesome or healthy. sure there are some incels here ill agree but it's not even like they are a hundred percent wrong they just say it in a demeaning way when specifically talking about this story. I just can't find it in me to like this woman or the direction the story is heading where it is trying to portray the male leads respecting of boundaries as cowardice. If someone suddenly wants to break up and won't elaborate. how is it cowardice to ket them go? How is respecting her decision as an adult letting her go?? And with the current issues with her saying she knows he won't confess it now just looks like she's willing to stay in this shitty situation which could hurt the guy even more. cause remember we as the readers see their motives I'm looking at this from the motives of the people who don't know what's going on in each others head. The make lead has issues but this story is trying it's hardest to frame the female lead as this cute tragic woman without agency when she is an adult s fully grown woman. I veiw it like this if someone is able to break up over something without asking me or thinking it through. then it means the relationship isn't valuable enough in their head for it to not be a last resort thus you let them go. And if she married for convenience that also still makes her bad thats unless she also loved the guy but i mean she had a kid with him yk. It's so distasteful how the story is handled and hypothetically this could work if it was written properly.