hitoner - Ch. 6 - The Hito Symposium Part 2

[DanielBR555]

I bet Hitoshi is so insistent on the regulations in order to avoid whatever happened to the Earth

 

[NotSomeone]

Love that they're like "wow, what could've made the Hito keep working on these rockets if they faced every single setback we also faced?"
War, the answer was war again, It's always fucking war.

 

[Chizan]

Love that they're like "wow, what could've made the Hito keep working on these rockets if they faced every single setback we also faced?"
War, the answer was war again, It's always fucking war.

And a leader not eager to cut anything and everything 'sciencey' they deem waste of tax money...

 

[Joviper]

I wonder what other kind of technological advancements were held back because everyone is a furry on that planet.

 

[HORRIOR]

I wonder what other kind of technological advancements were held back because everyone is a furry on that planet.

Probably indoor plumbing. Everything gets clogged by hair and I imagine they all have their own ways of dealing when the nature calls.

 

[Njin]

Unrelated to the chapter, but my headcanon is going to the direction that this story is a Planet of the Ape situation.

Honestly, I think the same. How high are the odds that there isn't just a planet hospitable to human life, but one that is comprised of exactly the same stuff? And they have stories about humans...
It's also simpler to assume Hitoshi has always been up there in orbit rather than travelling an absurd amount of light years without some kind of technical failure.
I think it might be earth after global warming or a planetary calamity wrecked human civilization. Hitoshi was sent to space to hibernate until the planet cooled down and life began again, with the AI sending him down once there was another sufficiently advanced civilization.
It's still odd that Hitoshi seemingly signed on for what appeared to be a suicide mission - even if we found another hospitable planet far away, most of us wouldn't be willing to leave behind our life and loved ones for the ghost of chance of reaching it, so Hitoshis life was either pretty bleak or there was a pressing reason.

Who knows... the Kemo might be the result of some kind of uplifting, with a focus on breeding out aggression, so they wouldn't go down the same path humanity did.

 

[Hermann]

Honestly, I think the same. How high are the odds that there isn't just a planet hospitable to human life, but one that is comprised of exactly the same stuff? And they have stories about humans...
It's also simpler to assume Hitoshi has always been up there in orbit rather than travelling an absurd amount of light years without some kind of technical failure.
I think it might be earth after global warming or a planetary calamity wrecked human civilization. Hitoshi was sent to space to hibernate until the planet cooled down and life began again, with the AI sending him down once there was another sufficiently advanced civilization.
It's still odd that Hitoshi seemingly signed on for what appeared to be a suicide mission - even if we found another hospitable planet far away, most of us wouldn't be willing to leave behind our life and loved ones for the ghost of chance of reaching it, so Hitoshis life was either pretty bleak or there was a pressing reason.

Who knows... the Kemo might be the result of some kind of uplifting, with a focus on breeding out aggression, so they wouldn't go down the same path humanity did.

Another theory that just came to me is that Hitoshi was maybe sent across the Milky Way to the other end of the galaxy, like through near the middle (where super massive black hole apparently resides). And well... that would take a very long time, but the galaxy also rotates in the mean time too. The time it would take for Hitoshi to reach the other side, perhaps it would be enough time for the galaxy to rotate and have the solar system end as his destination.
We're talking millions of years here, and enough for Kemos to evolve?

This came to me when I was reminded of this trivia that our solar system during the era of the dinosaurs was on the other side of our galaxy relative to us, today.

 

[chrno_12]

I didn't get the joke here...

 

[NotSomeone]

And a leader not eager to cut anything and everything 'sciencey' they deem waste of tax money...

It was just a dick measuring contest between US and USSR, science was just a bonus

 

[Xelarion]

I feel like the core message here is to not let someone else's tomorrow stop you from making today's important progress.
We won't see or reach a future with species that are not human if we cannot do so.

 

[Nemo2342]

Ah, so the kemo got their hands paws/claws/hooves/tentacles/hands again?/etc. on their very own Wernher von Braun?

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun

 

[kingarthur020500]

Surely if our boy can understand furry language and their ears can hear every sound within our vocal range they should be able to communicate without the paper. He's already learned their language they just have to learn something from our planet. They don't need to be able to speak it to understand it. The paper feels unnecessary.

 

[fight2live]

so the kemo haven't been super-obsessed with "how can i throw things even faster" like humans, huh? that's why they don't have firearms or propulsion engines

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

I get the feeling that the reason they haven't progressed as much as humans is because they're too kind - they saw the dangers of the rocket ships and thought 'that's not safe' meanwhile russians were killing dozens of people in their failed take-offs and goof-ups, and need I bring up the Challenger?

For a society that stopped warring with each other because 'killing is bad' essentially, of course they wouldn't have the grit to make such sacrifices or take such risks.

On another note, where did the rocket come from? I assume it had to have been made on that planet, but now they need decades of development to manufacture another one?

Also, we just totally skimmed over the planet's environmental issues - did the MC not care about that?

 

[aramil31]

I get the feeling that the reason they haven't progressed as much as humans is because they're too kind - they saw the dangers of the rocket ships and thought 'that's not safe' meanwhile russians were killing dozens of people in their failed take-offs and goof-ups, and need I bring up the Challenger?

For a society that stopped warring with each other because 'killing is bad' essentially, of course they wouldn't have the grit to make such sacrifices or take such risks.

On another note, where did the rocket come from? I assume it had to have been made on that planet, but now they need decades of development to manufacture another one?

Also, we just totally skimmed over the planet's environmental issues - did the MC not care about that?

There's some precedent to say that a lack of conflict and competition can end up stifling development of tech in certain ways, partly because there's a decreased willingness to take risks when there's not really any consequences for not taking them.

It's part of the premise of the show "For All Mankind", where Soviets land on the moon first, and as a result the Space Race continues instead of ending with the moon landing, with the US and USSR each trying to one-up each other on being the first to hit a new space milestone. We end up with permanent lunar bases in the 80's, and several sectors of technology make advancements ahead of time, among many other changes.

IRL, with the Soviets having given up the race after the moon landing (and had little hope anyways with the loss of some of their program's top minds before it), there was no political reason for the US to continue the same level of investment in space exploration. The risks and dangers of space exploration and development also suddenly become much harder to justify when it's not for the sake of beating a rival nation, but instead now just simple curiosity.

The furries here seem to basically be starting with only having the "curiosity" justification, so it's not surprising that they threw in the towel on rocketry once they started hitting the first riskier aspects of it.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

I didn't get the joke here...

The page before was discussing how even a single loose hair in the engine can have cat-astrophic (heh) consequences for the rocket - so the joke is that she's simply giving an overly simple and childish answer.

"Oh a single loose hair can get everyone killed? Well we better groom ourselves well then" - is essentially the line of thinking here.