Hoshi no Taion, Meguru Yume - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

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Another yuri between an age gap nobody and celebrity? 😔 Here we go again lol
Yuri just proves that men & women, het & homo are the same - they just want successful younger model/actress/rich person to unconditionally love them for who they are.
 
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it's hard to imagine this going anywhere interesting, and the art is pretty flat. i'll keep an eye on it though
 
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"She had no family, no boyfriend"

She's a fuckin lesbian, she has an in game girlfriend, have you never heard of a lesbian editor????
 
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"She had no family, no boyfriend"

She's a fuckin lesbian, she has an in game girlfriend, have you never heard of a lesbian editor????
It's not common to see a work where they use the word lesbian to identify a lesbian.
Most of the time, they implied it or they leave it vague or use other terms more hetero friendly? like yuri.
The only times where I see the word lesbian use so commonly is when the author is also a lesbian in real life or they are in the LGBTQ community.
 
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age gap, but with two grown women with careers (or trying to have careers) the maturity gap doesn't feel very big, esp considering the older one doesn't look 40. I like the idea of this, branching out from office yuri while still being adult centric
 
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It's not common to see a work where they use the word lesbian to identify a lesbian.
Most of the time, they implied it or they leave it vague or use other terms more hetero friendly? like yuri.
The only times where I see the word lesbian use so commonly is when the author is also a lesbian in real life or they are in the LGBTQ community.
Another yuri between an age gap nobody and celebrity? 😔 Here we go again lol

Let's do a bit of a recap, since it seems like some people are commenting without having read the chapter or otherwise talking out of their ass.

Yumeko could only work part time from home because she has been taking care of her grandmother. For 26 years. She is also determined to look for full time employment. Calling a woman like her a "nobody" just makes you sound like you look down on women doing elder care either as a profession or forced by circumstance.

Whether yuri manga uses words like "lesbian" or "LGBTQ+" is not determined by the author's identity. Even if it does not, calling it hetero-friendly makes as much sense as saying that straight romance manga is gay-friendly if it does not explicitly refer to the main characters as "heterosexual" or "straight". It's the story and content that makes yuri manga what it is.

In either case, in the next chapter, Yumeko will say that she's a lesbian, using that exact word. If you didn't see that coming, you especially have no business speculating about a creator's gender and sexual orientation and making other unfounded assumptions about them.

"She had no family, no boyfriend"

She's a fuckin lesbian, she has an in game girlfriend, have you never heard of a lesbian editor????

The "boyfriend" in the synopsis is an artifact of the translation. Both the original synopsis and the original script only use 'koibito' which is a gender neutral term.
 
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Whether yuri manga uses words like "lesbian" or "LGBTQ+" is not determined by the author's identity. Even if it does not, calling it hetero-friendly makes as much sense as saying that straight romance manga is gay-friendly if it does not explicitly refer to the main characters as "heterosexual" or "straight". It's the story and content that makes yuri manga what it is.

In either case, in the next chapter, Yumeko will say that she's a lesbian, using that exact word. If you didn't see that coming, you especially have no business speculating about a creator's gender and sexual orientation and making other unfounded assumptions about them.
Firstly, stop being condescending, dumbass. It's not by looking down on people that your arguments have more weight.
Secondly, I look at the author's previous works, and it just reaffirms what I said. Even though they didn't openly come out in their social networks, there are signs that speak for themselves.

But I can recognize that my words were not inclusive enough. Nothing can stop a homophobic person from using the word 'lesbian' or 'gay'. But you wouldn't change my mind about the fact that the ones using it in a more respectful way, without ulterior motive, are people who are concerned or empathetic about LGBTQ+ communities. This is even more true in mangas.
 
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Let's do a bit of a recap, since it seems like some people are commenting without having read the chapter or otherwise talking out of their ass.

Yumeko could only work part time from home because she has been taking care of her grandmother. For 26 years. She is also determined to look for full time employment. Calling a woman like her a "nobody" just makes you sound like you look down on women doing elder care either as a profession or forced by circumstance.

What's got you so butthurt boiling over a bunch of nothing. I'm calling out the cliche because almost every romance nowadays is about nobodies pairing up with a "somebody" of higher league. That's how the author illustrates this character, low self esteem and anxious they ain't good enough.

Get with the program mate, I don't make the rules, this is how they lure us to watch their character growths. She's a nobody just like all the other nerd, otaku, jobless, virgin, weakling, overlooked and loser MCs out there, they're all under-valued glow ups waiting to happen...

This is the copycat work I had in mind when making my comment, you're the one making assumptions at people while pointing daggers.
 
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Firstly, stop being condescending, dumbass. It's not by looking down on people that your arguments have more weight.
Secondly, I look at the author's previous works, and it just reaffirms what I said. Even though they didn't openly come out in their social networks, there are signs that speak for themselves.

But I can recognize that my words were not inclusive enough. Nothing can stop a homophobic person from using the word 'lesbian' or 'gay'. But you wouldn't change my mind about the fact that the ones using it in a more respectful way, without ulterior motive, are people who are concerned or empathetic about LGBTQ+ communities. This is even more true in mangas.

Reaffirms what you said? I'm the one who pointed out that Yumeko in this series explicitly calls herself a lesbian, not you. You would not have said all that if you had clocked any "signs" here, so it's kind of funny that now you try to backpedal on it.

Also, note that unlike you, I did not call you an idiot or even implied that you were dumb. I just meant that your comment was based not on facts but vibes, assumptions, stereotypes. I would like to think that if I were to post something like that, someone would call me out on it too.

I never expected to change your mind about the things you choose to believe. I mostly wanted to present a more evidence-based perspective for other people who might read the comments.
 
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I'm fascinated by the sort of artwork-quality-drop that happens during the game sequence. It may just be that the artist is drawing something they're less-familiar-with, but it actually lends a weird sense of fidelity to it to me.

A lot of the time these sell the idea that "the game world is the better reality", but here it ends up actually feeling more like the sort of places where these sorts of interactions happen; like, "Yeah, I spend a lot of time in this actually kind of old game where what matters is who I know there."

Yuri just proves that men & women, het & homo are the same - they just want successful younger model/actress/rich person to unconditionally love them for who they are.

Oddly, this does not actually appear to be broadly true.

At least, to the extent studies have been able to discern, men tend to (tend to is important here, individual preferences vary greatly as we all know!) most-prefer younger women as they get older (settling around preferring women in their mid-twenties no matter how old the man gets, which is slightly disturbing).

Women tend broadly to prefer men around their own age.

It's not like I have the background to evaluate the studies showing this for any flawed methodology so take it with a grain of salt, but it makes a depressing amount of sense from a detached, evolutionary mating-strategy standpoint (like many unpleasant things about humans), e.g. scummy men leave lots of kids; but women might prefer guys who might actually stick around to help raise those children.

Let's do a bit of a recap, since it seems like some people are commenting without having read the chapter or otherwise talking out of their ass.
Also, note that unlike you, I did not call you an idiot or even implied that you were dumb.

⃰ ahem ⃰ I think you forgot what you already typed a bit there, mate.

...Look, as an outsider to this conversation, since it's quite possible you're not aware how you're coming off: You're not really listening to what the other person is saying past your first-blush impression of what they might mean, several arguments you seem to be starting just for the sake of arguing / scoring points, and you're in vocally denial that this is what you're doing / that you're being combative. Unless your goal is to rage-bait, this isn't really going to be an effective approach to communication here.

As someone who (inadvisably) frequently does all that too, I will point out that some (predominantly male) parts of the internet enjoy this kind of slightly-toxic debate where everyone insinuates that everyone else is dumb and then pretends they didn't, and that's fine, but try to read the room on time and place and context a little?

(I don't mean this as an ad hominem. The actual substance of what you're trying to say seems like it might be a reasonable position to take, potentially. The issue is in how you're choosing to pursue it.)
 
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