I assume you read the chapters so far of the manga you are commenting on and you really don't see the irony of such bullshit you are saying? This manga reverses it, and in that process really shows how ridiculous it is, and how it only works with people with no concept of self-worth.
BTW, negging is a form of psychological abuse. There are plenty of publications by psychologists explaining why that is, in fact your own description shows why it's abusive. It's a bit sad and cringe that you try to downplay it as "a technique to slightly bring a person down who is overconfident in themselves to generate interest" without realizing that even what you said is abusive. Try reversing the genders like this manga does, it might help giving you some self-awareness. Would you like to have your own confidence downplayed in a relationship? Do you understand what that would do to you?
The reality is that both those communities are toxic as hell and prey on and profit from men with zero self-worth. Redpill is also not effective with most women, only with those that have issues with confidence and self-worth: there are plenty of testimonials from women explaining why that is, and fortunately younger women are learning to spot red pill bullshit a lot more easily these days and refuse to submit. That's becoming a big problem for red pill men, because even though they only focus on younger and younger women, which are easier to manipulate in theory, the manipulation techniques are not working as they think should.
It's not that hard to understand that only women with no self-worth would accept 'that equality between the sexes is bullshit', especially in today's society. It's easy for red pill men to accept it, because when they talk about it, they always feel they are the superior sex. For a men with no self-worth it must be incredible to feel "naturally superior" even if you are an useless person otherwise. In that context, equality between sexes would feel like oppression to those men and so it's so much easier to believe in redpill BS than to develop empathy and healthy relationship dynamics.
The MGTOW movement is very much related with red pills, because too many of those men are ex-redpills burned out because their techniques didn't work, and now spend most of their days complaining about women, because any kind of self-reflection is just too hard. It was actually hilarious to lurk into the r/MGTOW subreddit before it was banned and how they thought red pills were clowns.
Wow you're so completely wrong you still obviously have no idea what you're talking about. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest how you can say so much and say nothing correct.
Red pill is not men feeling the superior sex let's get one thing clear. It is accepting the reality for what it is. Not the fantasy bullshit you see in movies, manga, etc. It is understanding that women act a certain way and why and that men act a certain way and why. Understanding the differences between the sexes and how very different we are in our biological imperatives and accepting that truth. That is the true definition of red pill. Whether you agree or not does not matter.
Show me those studies. One thing I'm not very shocked about is how pickup artist are demonized but when you think about it for a second. How did these techniques even develop? These guys went out and talked to women and learned how to interact with and understand women. I find it extremely stupid to say I'm downplaying negging when it is just one of many techniques. I already gave an example in another chapter but since you can't comprehend it I'll give another more detailed example.
Let's say you meet this absurdly hot chick at a party. Everyone is complimenting her looks. All the guys are talking about how pretty and gorgeous she is. One guy who's your friend comes up to you and talks about how she's the prettiest girl in the room. You take one good look at her and say. ''Meh I've seen prettier.'' You could go talk to her but you instead go talk to her friend who isn't as pretty as her. You compliment her friend how you think she's prettier than the absurdly hot girl even when she's not. The girl hears this and comes up to talk to you but you ignore her and only talk to her friend. After finishing your talk to her friend you leave and she follows you and wants to talk to you. Like that you incorporated 2 techniques Negging and feigning ignorance. You didn't boost her ego you slightly brought her down and when she wanted to talk to you, you didn't immediately give her attention you waited till you were done talking to her friend. Nothing abusive happened you were just using techniques to generate interest in yourself. Not hard to understand just retards think you insult a person to gain interest when that's not it at all. It's not hard for a dumbass to take the same technique and mess it up.
This manga is nothing but abusive porn for pathetic dudes who have a fetish for it and reality for men who do not take the red pill.
You want to know why guys with ''zero self-worth'' follow the red pill? Because they've lived in fantasy bullshit land and realize that being a ''nice guy'' who will devote everything and put women on a pedestal is not how you get women or a relationship and will be like the dude in the manga. You want to know what this manga accurately portrays? A blue pilled simp who is so stuck on this one relationship because he has no confidence that he could get another girl. Because of that fear he'd rather stay in a bad relationship then leave it and find someone else.
Let me just say this again so you understand something. Equality of the sexes is bullshit. Women will
never be stronger than men. Women are the weaker more vulnerable sex. That is just a biological truth that shows
we are not and never will be equal. Men are the sacrificial sex. It is hardwired that men protect women. Eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap. It is a truth that will never change no matter how much time passes. Here's another thing. Women don't have empathy for men. They can feel sympathy but they definitely won't feel empathy. As men you have expectations to fill and if you don't fulfill them you aren't worth the consideration.
Lastly actual followers of red pill understand what you need to do to get women. They need to follow three simple words. Money (Getting their finances in order and making a lot of money) Muscle (Getting their physical health up) and Game (Getting their looks up to snuff and knowing how to interact with women). A proper follower of red pill starts to develop all of these at the same time. It's all about trial and error. You need to get out there, work hard, and learn. All it is. I find it extremely funny how you say ''women are figuring out the manipulation techniques'' when it's nothing like that. Actual successful red pillers are just good people in their social skills and know how to talk to people and have the status to back it up. It's nothing to do with ''manipulation.''
MGTOW is not ex-redpillers and the fact you think that shows me you have no idea what the movement actually is. It is literally just black-pilled doomer men who have been burned by relationships with women and want nothing to do with them. Simple as that.
Final thoughts as someone who is actually successful thanks to red pill knowledge it makes me laugh and annoys me how people think they know what it is when they obviously don't. Telling a young boy if you want something you gotta work for it is not, in your stupid words, ''toxic.'' It's better that he becomes a man others wanna be and women want to have than be a loser ''nice guy'' who has no idea how to navigate relationships and is walked over if he does manage to get one. Good luck with fantasy land I'll be over here in reality.
