Ichioku-nen Button o Renda Shita Ore wa, Kizuitara Saikyou ni Natteita - Vol. 1 Ch. 2.2
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This.. This is, too shallow for its dreadful prolouge, its like a run off the mill isekai where the mc was granted a cheat power out of nowhere... Ohhh it was actually exactly like that. But still, this shit is full of holes and its disgusting me,
First of all because we don't know what kind of improvement he had during that shitty button, we can't really grasp exactly his capabilities. Does he got stronger in techniques? Or did he achive enlightenment or magical prowess? What makes him strong? You see, even if he forgot all of those 100 millions of training or something, it doesnt make sense to see him getting angry and firing off a shitty wind blade that would knockback his enemy. It was exactly the shitty plot that i can't understand, if he forgot all of those training then he should either unable to use them or use his full power to everything. He shouldn't have enought control to hold back from killing his opponents because duh, even he himself didn't know his own capabilities. He shouldn't because he isnt even trying in the first place. The logic and power scaling is all over the place in this shitty ran of the mill story..
First of all because we don't know what kind of improvement he had during that shitty button, we can't really grasp exactly his capabilities. Does he got stronger in techniques? Or did he achive enlightenment or magical prowess? What makes him strong? You see, even if he forgot all of those 100 millions of training or something, it doesnt make sense to see him getting angry and firing off a shitty wind blade that would knockback his enemy. It was exactly the shitty plot that i can't understand, if he forgot all of those training then he should either unable to use them or use his full power to everything. He shouldn't have enought control to hold back from killing his opponents because duh, even he himself didn't know his own capabilities. He shouldn't because he isnt even trying in the first place. The logic and power scaling is all over the place in this shitty ran of the mill story..
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Maybe some of you should be taught what the difference is between an Isekai manga and a regular Fantasy manga is. Despite how this story started out, it is still on the line of Fantasy. Although he is trapped at the start in a place where time flows differently (and in a separate dimension apart from his own), he still is in his world. He was not transported into another one, unlike Kazuya from Konosuba nor Shiro and Sora from No Game No Life.
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This is very common for those with very low self esteem. At some point, you just start to assume you are not as good as literally anyone else. You could find a baby to be superior to you in some way. It is also very hard to shake. It can take years of therapy, major life events/changes, or a few close friends always showing support. Sometimes even getting a girlfriend/boyfriend can make an impact. Sometimes you need a proper medication. Either way, it isn't usually as easy as "it will heal over time by itself". It takes a couple of good experiences to start to change how you see yourself.
For MC, he was actually suicidal. This is a dangerously low level of self esteem. One that should be addressed properly by medical experts and a good therapist. Neither of which were done. Instead he was isolated for an ungodly amount of time. All that did is reinforce his inferiority complex since he could never experience himself overcoming those who he is/feels inferior to. Now that he is all powerful. He lacks any perspective of just how strong he is. So even if he beat one person, to him, it doesn't mean he will beat the next. He lacks the ability to judge (assess?) people and some common sense skills due to his isolation.
He may have trained for millions of years. But he did it alone. Meaning he had no contrast, or reference to gauge himself with. The level of his growth is ultimately unknown even to him because of this. Specifically because the world has "skills" or styles, of which he never received, he can't readily agree that he "improved" because what everyone else has, he still doesn't. Him one-shooting also does not help as much as you may think it does. Because it only takes one hit to win, you can argue he has yet to actually fight anyone. One hit also is not enough to gauge his skills with. So him learning just how good he is will be difficult as long as he keeps winning with one hit. There is no way to express how strong that hit was.
We could look at it numerically. Say it takes 100 points of damage to "win" vs one opponent. You can hit harder than 100 points, but the rating scale for that person only goes up to there. He went from hitting maybe a 2 against anyone, to 100+ for this person. His actual hit could be in the tens of thousands, but he would never know that fighting people who cap at 100. All that tells him is he may deal 101 points of damage. What if the next guy has 150 points? 101 points of damage means you cant win instantly, and he has no defense as far as we know. His point score may be 20 or even lower. Everyone could at one point in time win against him, so he assumes it to be very low.
What he honestly needs is a good partner to show him how well of he is. Someone who will not go down instantly, and if they do win against him, they wont just kill him or be mean to him. From what it looks like though, there are not a lot of those kind of people in this world. Everyone seems to want to either end his life, or permanently cripple him. It makes sense he wont spontaneously recover his self esteem in one go.
Also, apparently if you really want to kill someone, this is the place. Murder is punished by disqualification. That is it. You kill someone, you dont win the tournament prize. No prison sentence, no execution, nothing. Just disqualification.
This is very common for those with very low self esteem. At some point, you just start to assume you are not as good as literally anyone else. You could find a baby to be superior to you in some way. It is also very hard to shake. It can take years of therapy, major life events/changes, or a few close friends always showing support. Sometimes even getting a girlfriend/boyfriend can make an impact. Sometimes you need a proper medication. Either way, it isn't usually as easy as "it will heal over time by itself". It takes a couple of good experiences to start to change how you see yourself.
For MC, he was actually suicidal. This is a dangerously low level of self esteem. One that should be addressed properly by medical experts and a good therapist. Neither of which were done. Instead he was isolated for an ungodly amount of time. All that did is reinforce his inferiority complex since he could never experience himself overcoming those who he is/feels inferior to. Now that he is all powerful. He lacks any perspective of just how strong he is. So even if he beat one person, to him, it doesn't mean he will beat the next. He lacks the ability to judge (assess?) people and some common sense skills due to his isolation.
He may have trained for millions of years. But he did it alone. Meaning he had no contrast, or reference to gauge himself with. The level of his growth is ultimately unknown even to him because of this. Specifically because the world has "skills" or styles, of which he never received, he can't readily agree that he "improved" because what everyone else has, he still doesn't. Him one-shooting also does not help as much as you may think it does. Because it only takes one hit to win, you can argue he has yet to actually fight anyone. One hit also is not enough to gauge his skills with. So him learning just how good he is will be difficult as long as he keeps winning with one hit. There is no way to express how strong that hit was.
We could look at it numerically. Say it takes 100 points of damage to "win" vs one opponent. You can hit harder than 100 points, but the rating scale for that person only goes up to there. He went from hitting maybe a 2 against anyone, to 100+ for this person. His actual hit could be in the tens of thousands, but he would never know that fighting people who cap at 100. All that tells him is he may deal 101 points of damage. What if the next guy has 150 points? 101 points of damage means you cant win instantly, and he has no defense as far as we know. His point score may be 20 or even lower. Everyone could at one point in time win against him, so he assumes it to be very low.
What he honestly needs is a good partner to show him how well of he is. Someone who will not go down instantly, and if they do win against him, they wont just kill him or be mean to him. From what it looks like though, there are not a lot of those kind of people in this world. Everyone seems to want to either end his life, or permanently cripple him. It makes sense he wont spontaneously recover his self esteem in one go.
Also, apparently if you really want to kill someone, this is the place. Murder is punished by disqualification. That is it. You kill someone, you dont win the tournament prize. No prison sentence, no execution, nothing. Just disqualification.
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Hmm i just gonna see how the story goes on
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@Sweet_Seats Frankly I think you're nitpicking a bit too much. It's 100 million years, and he seem to have done it twice. Meaning 200 Million years.
Talent is composed by multiple factors but to mee these two are what matters. First the mindset, this is the part of talent that can be acquired. A talented person has a mindset that naturally allows them to more easily understand the concept behind something, but simply repeating and training that something will eventually allow a less talented someone to properly undertand it.
And there's the second part, the one that depends on innate characteristics, which is the physical predisposition towards something, a talented person is born with a body that can acquire the muscles and reflexes that suit a certain ability.
Usually is very hard if not completely unproductive to train something you're not talented at, you'll simply won't understand things fast enough, and your body will usually be underdeveloped for the task, which is what makes you commit mistakes and generally underperform. But this is only valid for people living within a normal timeframe. If you could live for centuries, talent will be worth less than garbage, if you could simply burn a couple of decades of constant trianing, you can brute force the aquisition of the necessary muscles or, since you'll have enough time to avail yourself, you'll come to fully understand the topic you're trying to study, once that understanding comes, there won't be any difference between you and the talented guy. More importantly since you have millions of years to study, and those millions of years go by faster than the time in real world, you easily can surpass geniuses, merely because time is no longer a factor.
You don't need the story to tell you that what the MC gained was more than just technique, physical conditioning, the proper mindset. THe MC is now a master swordsman in his own right. After all merely repeating techniques will already train your muscles, in real life it's an impractical way to train you body because this method is simply less efficient than training your muscles directly with the proper equipment, however he's been doing this for millions of years, no amount of equipment and diet can replicate this absurd timeframe. He is definitely several times stronger. Since he spend those years repeating movements and creating new moves, his muscle memory should be so impecable that he should be able to easily recognize any similar moves and react to them faster than anyone else can, with this I can assure you that he's gained a flawless technique, more importantly we've seen that he or the world he was in was capable of creating a clone of himself, of which he used to test all techniques in real combat, which means that his personal Style is battle tested and he has gotten rid of any moves that simply don't work. All the information you need to know was already properly shown to you.
Lastly, no he didn't forget his training, more than once the story shows you that he merely thought that his long years of training were a dream, because he couldn't accept the absurd reality of having spent millions of years training after pressing a button.
And there is also the fact that his extremely low self esteem make him doubt his progression. even though a healthy person should already know that they had become op. But that's why lack of self esteem is dangerous and requires help of a professional to fix
Talent is composed by multiple factors but to mee these two are what matters. First the mindset, this is the part of talent that can be acquired. A talented person has a mindset that naturally allows them to more easily understand the concept behind something, but simply repeating and training that something will eventually allow a less talented someone to properly undertand it.
And there's the second part, the one that depends on innate characteristics, which is the physical predisposition towards something, a talented person is born with a body that can acquire the muscles and reflexes that suit a certain ability.
Usually is very hard if not completely unproductive to train something you're not talented at, you'll simply won't understand things fast enough, and your body will usually be underdeveloped for the task, which is what makes you commit mistakes and generally underperform. But this is only valid for people living within a normal timeframe. If you could live for centuries, talent will be worth less than garbage, if you could simply burn a couple of decades of constant trianing, you can brute force the aquisition of the necessary muscles or, since you'll have enough time to avail yourself, you'll come to fully understand the topic you're trying to study, once that understanding comes, there won't be any difference between you and the talented guy. More importantly since you have millions of years to study, and those millions of years go by faster than the time in real world, you easily can surpass geniuses, merely because time is no longer a factor.
You don't need the story to tell you that what the MC gained was more than just technique, physical conditioning, the proper mindset. THe MC is now a master swordsman in his own right. After all merely repeating techniques will already train your muscles, in real life it's an impractical way to train you body because this method is simply less efficient than training your muscles directly with the proper equipment, however he's been doing this for millions of years, no amount of equipment and diet can replicate this absurd timeframe. He is definitely several times stronger. Since he spend those years repeating movements and creating new moves, his muscle memory should be so impecable that he should be able to easily recognize any similar moves and react to them faster than anyone else can, with this I can assure you that he's gained a flawless technique, more importantly we've seen that he or the world he was in was capable of creating a clone of himself, of which he used to test all techniques in real combat, which means that his personal Style is battle tested and he has gotten rid of any moves that simply don't work. All the information you need to know was already properly shown to you.
Lastly, no he didn't forget his training, more than once the story shows you that he merely thought that his long years of training were a dream, because he couldn't accept the absurd reality of having spent millions of years training after pressing a button.
And there is also the fact that his extremely low self esteem make him doubt his progression. even though a healthy person should already know that they had become op. But that's why lack of self esteem is dangerous and requires help of a professional to fix
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The mayor is great. Acting like he's a possessed at a metal concert and going back to greeting celebrities like it's nothing.
I was so curious about his strength and read the novel.
This is a very spoilery spoiler, don't read unless you want to know how the novel goes. The manga might differ.
This is a very spoilery spoiler, don't read unless you want to know how the novel goes. The manga might differ.
He actually spent a billion years, cause he press it multiple times, and initially when he's at the 'prison of time' he have a new personality that's forged by a billion years of solitude, until he destroy the prison of time, thus destroying the button.
He is strong, if compared to normal swordsman, but would lose later against another high schooler that is so talented, that the hidden plot (another soul) shows itself. Apparently, his mother knows about this and trying to prevent the another soul to reapper altogether. Also time hermit is basically evil.
He is strong, if compared to normal swordsman, but would lose later against another high schooler that is so talented, that the hidden plot (another soul) shows itself. Apparently, his mother knows about this and trying to prevent the another soul to reapper altogether. Also time hermit is basically evil.
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HOW FUCKING DUMB CAN SOMEONE BE?!? IF A GOOD SWORDSMAN TRAINS HIS ENTIRE LIFE, IT'LL BE ABOUT 50-60 YEARS OF FUCKING TRAINING. HOW CAN 100,000,000 YEARS COMPARE TO 50-60 YEARS?! This defiantly must have been written by a child, because they underestimate the importance of experience.
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