Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san - Vol. 6 Ch. 43 - You can definitely put up a good fight, Senpai!!

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@Tarage I dislike the insults. Please fucking stop. I like the general dynamic between them, I just abhor the actual physical abuse. Nagatoro is improving her behaviour, and is now going for more "teasing" than abuse. I just can't wait for her to grow up, and actually drop it.
 
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@Miraxli Did you not read my previous post? I like it, I'm expecting character growth that's been hinted at since the start. You're not adding anything with you comment.
 
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Whoa! That's pretty genius. Make her into a school-wide mascot so she already has the popularity to have her paintings draw a crowd.
 
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Nothing says "alpha male" like complaining online about bullying in a manga about playful bullying
 
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@Eesolett Getting tired of explaining myself. Are people's egos so fragile they get upset because I don't like the same thing they do? Is there a need to personally insult me?

I don't mind the "bullying", I mind the fucking physical abuse.
 
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@cor3zone

Ever think it might be you that's wrong? You know that roughhousing is a masculine intimacy routine, similar to grooming? It's like tickling, it implies pain but it isn't really painful.

Context, you're missing it because you're limiting your perspective lens. Which is likely due to a personal bias where you're projecting past personal events into the story.
 
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@Sharpedgs Ever think you are perpetuating the toxic masculinity that has so many men not seeking help for mental health issues? The likeliest cause of the overwhelmingly male proportion of suicides?

Edit: regardless, me potentially being wrong is not an excuse to call me "thick" or "autist". If you disagree with me, fine. Don't fucking insult me. Referring to previous posters, not you.
 
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And so it begins, a war of Quantity vs Quality. If I remember the 2nd world war correctly, the Prez is in for a big surprise this season.
 
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@cor3zone I don't want to be rude and try to push my interpretation onto you, (I know nobody ever really likes that so I'm sorry) but I don't think the physical contact that resembles abuse necessarily needs to be abuse. The silly kana sound effect, the noodle arms, and blushing in response(embarrassed reaction instead of fearful), make it look to me like it's implying she's tapping him pretty lightly and it's overall very playful. This manga does after all make an attempt to show that Nagatoro and Senpai have begun to understand the other, and that Nagatoro has come to understand what's acceptable and what isn't. "I know how to hold back," for example, as well as when she tried to deal with how uncomfortable she had been making him by having him redirect his hurt feelings by fighting back.

Making lots of physical contact is a sign of romantic interest towards a person and I believe that it's just another way of showing her character's feelings, because she is all about being a sado/tsun-dere hiding her affection and being close to her crush by teasing them as a coping mechanism for her embarrassment and shyness. Literally like they say, "kids bully their crush," I guess. The fake physical abuse is an excuse for her to touch him and Nagatoro is an immature girl rather than a malicious one.

So I really don't know for sure if my comment will change how you see it at all, but at the very least I want to try to acknowledge, for the sake of readers that are uncomfortable with it, the fact that it's NOT a typical malicious display of physical abuse. And also, like I said, their relationship has evolved just a bit like coming to a mutual understanding of what's okay and what isn't like in a couple's S&M activities. (Incredibly relevant considering the author and the original doujin. A big point of the manga IMO is that wholesome love exists in S&M)

I know that in real life we can't put our full trust in relationships that look like this being healthy, because we can't know all that much at a glance from the outside. But in a manga it means quite a lot when we're given lots of signs that distance her from being genuinely toxic or abusive. IMO I think you have to look at what the little things are supposed to mean. She has stolen his food, similarly to the original doujins. But unlike the doujins, she gives food back or even tries to feed him. And unlike when she gifted him a literal dog collar(doujin), an earlier chapter depicted her giving chocolate. Again, I'm sorry if I'm awkwardly forcing my opinions! I won't try to say that you shouldn't believe that she should apologize and change. The most I think I can try to ask for is that we see Nagatoro as a girl that's very caring and affectionate but so immature and ignorant at times that she expresses herself in a detrimental way. So a conclusion here is also that the manga is actually just as much about Nagatoro's character development as it is about Senpai's.
 
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